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hokiewolf said:

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It's comical that you think just taxing the rich is a solution to address the debt. Neither party has real solutions because they are bad politics.

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Honest question, did Smapty say that taxing the rich would solve the deficit problem?

Taxing the Uber-wealthy isn't a panacea but it needs to happen and will help. We can argue about the specifics - challenges and hangups of taxing unrealized gains, capital gains debates, etc. - but there's no reason for elite earners to be taxed at significantly lower effective rates than normal folks.

If Bill ****ing Clinton can balance the budget, so can the rest of them.

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The Uber rich are taxed under the same tax laws as everyone in the US right?

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#devolution seems to be working.

Do you think Kamala was feeling the joy as she pulled up to this campaign spot and was greeted by Trump supporters? 🤣🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/MKin3djKZ5

— Candace (@roycan79) September 4, 2024

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She appears "unburdened by what has been".

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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It's comical that you think just taxing the rich is a solution to address the debt. Neither party has real solutions because they are bad politics.

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Honest question, did Smapty say that taxing the rich would solve the deficit problem?

Taxing the Uber-wealthy isn't a panacea but it needs to happen and will help. We can argue about the specifics - challenges and hangups of taxing unrealized gains, capital gains debates, etc. - but there's no reason for elite earners to be taxed at significantly lower effective rates than normal folks.

If Bill ****ing Clinton can balance the budget, so can the rest of them.

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The Uber rich are taxed under the same tax laws as everyone in the US right?

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LOLOL. Have you seen how dense the IRS code is? Yeah, everyone is taxed using the same code but that code doesn't treat the tax situations of someone making $50k in a given tax year vs. $5MM or $50MM remotely the same.

Obviously corporations and the uber-wealthy are taxed at different effective rates because their revenue streams, allowable deductions, and available shelters are completely different than someone that's making money working gigs or is a W2 employee.

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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It's comical that you think just taxing the rich is a solution to address the debt. Neither party has real solutions because they are bad politics.

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Honest question, did Smapty say that taxing the rich would solve the deficit problem?

Taxing the Uber-wealthy isn't a panacea but it needs to happen and will help. We can argue about the specifics - challenges and hangups of taxing unrealized gains, capital gains debates, etc. - but there's no reason for elite earners to be taxed at significantly lower effective rates than normal folks.

If Bill ****ing Clinton can balance the budget, so can the rest of them.

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The Uber rich are taxed under the same tax laws as everyone in the US right?

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LOLOL. Have you seen how dense the IRS code is? Yeah, everyone is taxed using the same code but that code doesn't treat the tax situations of someone making $50k in a given tax year vs. $5MM or $50MM remotely the same.

Obviously corporations and the uber-wealthy are taxed at different effective rates because their revenue streams, allowable deductions, and available shelters are completely different than someone that's making money working gigs or is a W2 employee.

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So people are required to work as a W2? Or working gigs? And these people do not have access to the same deductions, revenue streams and shelters?

So have you guys heard this radio commercial running now from the Harris campaign, attacking Trump over Project 2025? I heard it yesterday, and as expected is nothing but lies, misinformation, and fear-mongering.

The jist of the ad is that Trump created Project 2025 as this "masterplan" for him to "take over the Department of Justice" and "take VENGEANCE" against his political enemies. They then play these cherry-picked soundbites of Trump speaking (from various speeches over the last several years or months) which are taken completely out of context and pieced together to attempt to support this narrative that Trump wants to "take vengeance" by effectively "becoming a dictator".

They have concocted this complete fantasy of Trump and made him out to be this cartoon-level, boogeyman villain. And Leftists believe it because most of them have never actually listened to Trump speak other than a 10-second sound bite taken completely out of context and misrepresented. And they just outright believe the lie that Trump is the one who created and authored Project 2025.

And, of course, this is all a massive projection and use of the Saul Alinsky tactic of accusing their enemies of what THEY (the communist Left) are already doing. It is the communist Democrats who have now weaponized the Department of Justice and the legal system to persecute their political enemies on bogus charges.

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Civilized said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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It's comical that you think just taxing the rich is a solution to address the debt. Neither party has real solutions because they are bad politics.

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Honest question, did Smapty say that taxing the rich would solve the deficit problem?

Taxing the Uber-wealthy isn't a panacea but it needs to happen and will help. We can argue about the specifics - challenges and hangups of taxing unrealized gains, capital gains debates, etc. - but there's no reason for elite earners to be taxed at significantly lower effective rates than normal folks.

If Bill ****ing Clinton can balance the budget, so can the rest of them.

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The Uber rich are taxed under the same tax laws as everyone in the US right?

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LOLOL. Have you seen how dense the IRS code is? Yeah, everyone is taxed using the same code but that code doesn't treat the tax situations of someone making $50k in a given tax year vs. $5MM or $50MM remotely the same.

Obviously corporations and the uber-wealthy are taxed at different effective rates because their revenue streams, allowable deductions, and available shelters are completely different than someone that's making money working gigs or is a W2 employee.

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So people are required to work as a W2? Or working gigs? And these people do not have access to the same deductions, revenue streams and shelters?

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Lol, yes! You seriously think that every single person in the country can be a millionaire rock star at the same time if they work hard enough? That's not how market economies work. It's a zero sum game... someone has to scrub the toilets or the country will collapse.

Trump is not Project 2025 in any way. I think that agenda comes from the Lincoln Project group or a similar Bill Crystal group.......definitely not Trump people.

Funny that its perfectly fine for the Establishment groups to try to pin it on Trump/MAGA......it just shows the hypocrisy that they are willing to apply unabashedly.

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Trump is not Project 2025 in any way. I think that agenda comes from the Lincoln Project group or a similar Bill Crystal group.......definitely not Trump people.

Funny that its perfectly fine for the Establishment groups to try to pin it on Trump/MAGA......it just shows the hypocrisy that they are willing to apply unabashedly.

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Were, you are wrong on this. The Heritage foundation is who put this out. They have nothing to do with the RINO Lincoln project. Heritage has been putting these things out in Presidential Election Years since Reagan was running. Again I urge you to go to the web site and read Project 2025. Common sense ideas about shrinking the Federal Government. Don't believe the BS by the media or the leftists on this board.

DrummerboyWolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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Trump is not Project 2025 in any way. I think that agenda comes from the Lincoln Project group or a similar Bill Crystal group.......definitely not Trump people.

Funny that its perfectly fine for the Establishment groups to try to pin it on Trump/MAGA......it just shows the hypocrisy that they are willing to apply unabashedly.

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Were, you are wrong on this. The Heritage foundation is who put this out. They have nothing to do with the RINO Lincoln project. Heritage has been putting these things out in Presidential Election Years since Reagan was running. Again I urge you to go to the web site and read Project 2025. Common sense ideas about shrinking the Federal Government. Don't believe the BS by the media or the leftists on this board.

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Whichever group it is, it is not a Trump MAGA sponsored group is it?

I'll check it out.

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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Trump is not Project 2025 in any way. I think that agenda comes from the Lincoln Project group or a similar Bill Crystal group.......definitely not Trump people.

Funny that its perfectly fine for the Establishment groups to try to pin it on Trump/MAGA......it just shows the hypocrisy that they are willing to apply unabashedly.

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Were, you are wrong on this. The Heritage foundation is who put this out. They have nothing to do with the RINO Lincoln project. Heritage has been putting these things out in Presidential Election Years since Reagan was running. Again I urge you to go to the web site and read Project 2025. Common sense ideas about shrinking the Federal Government. Don't believe the BS by the media or the leftists on this board.

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Whichever group it is, it is not a Trump MAGA sponsored group is it?

I'll check it out.

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Heritage is a good group. Trump had nothing to do with the actual putting together of Project 2025, but again what they are proposing is common sense ways to shrink and limit the Federal Government.

Exposure of the Federal Govt's corruption, criminality and involvement in human trafficking and drug trafficking will provide the impetus for getting the American people on board and in unison with downsizing the Federal Govt to almost a "Republic-like" size :-)

Exposure that continues under the #devolution plan is demonstrating that we also have similar corruption and criminal behavior at the State level and even many County/Municipal levels of govt. (See developing story re Asst Chief Shawn Taylor in Millersville, TN). The old saying "everybody has a price tag" is showing to be true and this story will go national if not global.

You and I both want a Republic outcome but the exposure/reveal is required to galvanize the American people to this outcome.

Uh oh...

Putin officially backs Kamala over Trump. Guess this means the Department of Injustice and Merrick Garfinkel will need to be investigating and prosecuting Act Blue, the Lamestream media, and other Left-wing outfits and influencers for promoting Russian interests, and for "Russian election interference".

And this makes perfect sense for Putin, in all seriousness. Russia and Putin can clearly see, just as everyone else around the world, that Biden and Harris have been destroying America from within, and making the United States weakened domestically and internationally. So, yes, other nations who would like to see the United States continue to decline in power and influence would love to see this clueless clown Kamala and her band of communist idiots running the country.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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It's comical that you think just taxing the rich is a solution to address the debt. Neither party has real solutions because they are bad politics.

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Honest question, did Smapty say that taxing the rich would solve the deficit problem?

Taxing the Uber-wealthy isn't a panacea but it needs to happen and will help. We can argue about the specifics - challenges and hangups of taxing unrealized gains, capital gains debates, etc. - but there's no reason for elite earners to be taxed at significantly lower effective rates than normal folks.

If Bill ****ing Clinton can balance the budget, so can the rest of them.

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The Uber rich are taxed under the same tax laws as everyone in the US right?

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LOLOL. Have you seen how dense the IRS code is? Yeah, everyone is taxed using the same code but that code doesn't treat the tax situations of someone making $50k in a given tax year vs. $5MM or $50MM remotely the same.

Obviously corporations and the uber-wealthy are taxed at different effective rates because their revenue streams, allowable deductions, and available shelters are completely different than someone that's making money working gigs or is a W2 employee.

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So people are required to work as a W2? Or working gigs? And these people do not have access to the same deductions, revenue streams and shelters?

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Lol, yes! You seriously think that every single person in the country can be a millionaire rock star at the same time if they work hard enough? That's not how economies work. It's a zero sum game... someone has to scrub the toilets or the country will collapse.

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First you do not understand why people would use different types of mortgages, then you call a poster stupid but takes you 4 edits to do it, and now you make a terrible assumption. SMH. By the way as long as value is being developed it is not a zero sum game.

And please not at all hard to be a millionaire. Save early, invest, reinvest any gains/dividends and hope the government does not take taxes on unrealized gains. Easy to do!

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I understand that you're currently getting your butt handed to you by an ARM, so you're certainly the poster boy for why that loan product is offered in the first place.

Anyway, lol, I would have never guessed that you were a vulture capitalist. Thank you for helping Wall Street types feel better about themselves! You guys truly are the worst.

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Uh oh...

Putin officially backs Kamala over Trump. Guess this means the Department of Injustice and Merrick Garfinkel will need to be investigating and prosecuting Act Blue and other Left-wing outfits and influencers for promoting Russian interests, and for "Russian election interference".

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Of course he backs Mrs. Harris. He knows he can run roughshod over her just like he did Biden and Obama.

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Lol, you guys will literally believe anything. I mean OF COURSE Putin is supporting the party that wants to keep helping Ukraine. It makes perfect sense!

By the way... BUT BUT BUT Obama! Looks like Obama Derangement Syndrome is a lifelong condition.

SmaptyWolf said:

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Lol, you guys will literally believe anything. I mean OF COURSE Putin is supporting the party that wants to keep helping Ukraine. It makes perfect sense!

By the way... BUT BUT BUT Obama! Looks like Obama Derangement Syndrome is a lifelong condition.

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How do you like the Democrat party now being the party of war-mongering and endless wars?

I seem to remember Obama campaigning on ending all the MidEast wars and shutting down Guantanamo, and all that. But then when he got in office, he started more wars than ol W Bush did, and continued the "war on terror" and continued torturing muslims in Guantanamo.

I thought the libtarded commie Left were the party of "peace"...and not endless useless wars.

GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Lol, you guys will literally believe anything. I mean OF COURSE Putin is supporting the party that wants to keep helping Ukraine. It makes perfect sense!

By the way... BUT BUT BUT Obama! Looks like Obama Derangement Syndrome is a lifelong condition.

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How do you like the Democrat party now being the party of war-mongering and endless wars?

I seem to remember Obama campaigning on ending all the MidEast wars and shutting down Guantanamo, and all that. But then when he got in office, he started more wars than ol W Bush did, and continued the "war on terror" and continued torturing muslims in Guantanamo.

I thought the libtarded commie Left were the party of "peace"...and not endless useless wars.

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You do remember that the endless Afghan war raged all through Trump's presidency, right? It was Biden who had the moral strength to do what was right, knowing full well that getting out after 20 years would be a mess. So W T F are you talking about?

SmaptyWolf said:

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You do remember that the endless Afghan war raged all through Trump's presidency, right? It was Biden who had the moral strength to do what was right, knowing full well that getting out after 20 years would be a mess. So W T F are you talking about?

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But yet here you are telling us that Biden war-mongering with Russia and fueling the fire of the war in Ukraine is so "great". Biden the great "peace-maker" who is against war???

Biden with "moral strenth"....LMFAOOOOooooo

GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do remember that the endless Afghan war raged all through Trump's presidency, right? It was Biden who had the moral strength to do what was right, knowing full well that getting out after 20 years would be a mess. So W T F are you talking about?

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But yet here you are telling us that Biden war-mongering with Russia and fueling the fire of the war in Ukraine is so "great". Biden the great "peace-maker" who is against war???

Biden with "moral strenth"....LMFAOOOOooooo

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Lol, last time I checked we don't have a single boot on the ground in Ukraine, the Ukrainians are doing all of the bleeding. We're supporting Ukraine exactly because we don't want to be dragged into another war in Europe, and if we don't act now we most definitely will be. F'ing Sweden and Finland just joined NATO for a reason.

Republicans used to understand that, before you let Putin boil your brains with relentless propaganda. Sad!

SmaptyWolf said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do remember that the endless Afghan war raged all through Trump's presidency, right? It was Biden who had the moral strength to do what was right, knowing full well that getting out after 20 years would be a mess. So W T F are you talking about?

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But yet here you are telling us that Biden war-mongering with Russia and fueling the fire of the war in Ukraine is so "great". Biden the great "peace-maker" who is against war???

Biden with "moral strenth"....LMFAOOOOooooo

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Lol, last time I checked we don't have a single boot on the ground in Ukraine, the Ukrainians are doing all of the bleeding. We're supporting Ukraine exactly because we don't want to be dragged into another war in Europe, and if we don't act now we most definitely will be. F'ing Sweden and Finland just joined NATO for a reason.

Republicans used to understand that, before you let Putin boil your brains with relentless propaganda. Sad!

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It's still Biden funding Ukraine's military with hundreds of billions of dollars worth of military equipment to wage a war that has killed over 100,000 people. Is it only a war if American soldiers are doing the fighting? Do Russian and Ukrainian lives matter? Can your boiled brain comprehend that Biden is funding/enabling a war that is killing tens of thousands?

You accusing conservatives of having boiled brains is rich. Coming from the people in the political party who's religion is believing the most preposterous lies ever foisted upon mankind --- eg, "70 genders", transgender insanity, "unborn children are not human beings but only a clump of cells, so they can be murdered", "God does not exist, we are evolved monkeys who came from the primordial soup", etc

GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do remember that the endless Afghan war raged all through Trump's presidency, right? It was Biden who had the moral strength to do what was right, knowing full well that getting out after 20 years would be a mess. So W T F are you talking about?

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But yet here you are telling us that Biden war-mongering with Russia and fueling the fire of the war in Ukraine is so "great". Biden the great "peace-maker" who is against war???

Biden with "moral strenth"....LMFAOOOOooooo

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Lol, last time I checked we don't have a single boot on the ground in Ukraine, the Ukrainians are doing all of the bleeding. We're supporting Ukraine exactly because we don't want to be dragged into another war in Europe, and if we don't act now we most definitely will be. F'ing Sweden and Finland just joined NATO for a reason.

Republicans used to understand that, before you let Putin boil your brains with relentless propaganda. Sad!

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It's still Biden funding Ukraine's military with hundreds of billions of dollars worth of military equipment to wage a war that has killed over 100,000 people. Is it only a war if American soldiers are doing the fighting? Do Russian and Ukrainian lives matter? Can your boiled brain comprehend that Biden is funding/enabling a war that is killing tens of thousands?

You accusing conservatives of having boiled brains is rich. Coming from the people in the political party who's religion is believing the most preposterous lies ever foisted upon mankind --- eg, "70 genders", transgender insanity, "unborn children are not human beings but only a clump of cells, so they can be murdered", "God does not exist, we are evolved monkeys who came from the primordial soup", etc

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Ukrainians are happy to fight, because THEIR COUNTRY IS BEING INVADED. We and Europe are supporting them to prevent an escalated war in Europe that would probably kill millions. And of course the Russians can stop invading any time and stop any further dying.

But in your mind Biden is the warmonger! Lol, Jesus, you guys are a lost cause.

SmaptyWolf said:

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Ukrainians are happy to fight, because THEIR COUNTRY IS BEING INVADED. We and Europe are supporting them to prevent an escalated war in Europe that would probably kill millions. And of course the Russians can stop invading any time and stop any further dying.

But in your mind Biden is the warmonger! Lol, Jesus, you guys are a lost cause.

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Biden (and the neocon faux conservatives) supplying Ukraine with hundreds of billions of military equipment is what is escalating the war, genius. It is prolonging the conflict, and causing more deaths.

Biden and the Democrats are the ones who have been escalating the rhetoric with Russia, and pushing this to the point of possibly using American soldiers in an ever larger war with Russia.

GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Ukrainians are happy to fight, because THEIR COUNTRY IS BEING INVADED. We and Europe are supporting them to prevent an escalated war in Europe that would probably kill millions. And of course the Russians can stop invading any time and stop any further dying.

But in your mind Biden is the warmonger! Lol, Jesus, you guys are a lost cause.

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Biden (and the neocon faux conservatives) supplying Ukraine with hundreds of billions of military equipment is what is escalating the war, genius. It is prolonging the conflict, and causing more deaths.

Biden and the Democrats are the ones who have been escalating the rhetoric with Russia, and pushing this to the point of possibly using American soldiers in an ever larger war with Russia.

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Lol, it's like Putin literally has his hand up your butt making your mouth move. A marvel to behold.

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Lol, it's like Putin literally has his hand up your butt making your mouth move. A marvel to behold.

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What is more likely here...that I'm a "puppet of Putin" who "parrots what Putin spoon feeds me"?....

Or that Leftists like you are puppets of Leftist/Democrat propaganda, who are just parroting what they are spoonfed and brainwashed to believe by the far Left Lamestream media and Democrat-Leftist pundits?

I hardly ever read/watch/listen to anything that comes from Russia or Putin. But people like you breathlessly guzzle down Democrat/Leftist propaganda from the Lamestream media probably 5 or 6 hours per day.

Projection again.

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Lol, it's like Putin literally has his hand up your butt making your mouth move. A marvel to behold.

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Lunatic communists like Rachel Madcow and Keith Olbermann literally have their hands up your butt making your mouth move.

People like me never listen to Putin or anyone associated with Putin.

People like you parrot COMPLETE NONSENSE from communist hacks who would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with Leftist propaganda is a "Russian puppet".

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My question is why can't Europe handle this situation on their own? I'll hang up and listen.

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If you can't comprehend why a war in Europe involving NATO allies would have a massive negative effect on us financially (never mind that we would actually be dragged into WW3 for real), then you should probably volunteer to not have an opinion on the topic.

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My question is why can't Europe handle this situation on their own? I'll hang up and listen.

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If you can't comprehend why a war in Europe involving NATO allies would have a massive negative effect on us financially (never mind that we would actually be dragged into WW3 for real), then you should probably volunteer to not have an opinion on the topic.

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Okay, I was going to try and have a conversation, but shame on me. Have a good day

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Uh oh...

Putin officially backs Kamala over Trump. Guess this means the Department of Injustice and Merrick Garfinkel will need to be investigating and prosecuting Act Blue and other Left-wing outfits and influencers for promoting Russian interests, and for "Russian election interference".

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Of course he backs Mrs. Harris. He knows he can run roughshod over her just like he did Biden and Obama.

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Lol, you guys will literally believe anything. I mean OF COURSE Putin is supporting the party that wants to keep helping Ukraine. It makes perfect sense!

By the way... BUT BUT BUT Obama! Looks like Obama Derangement Syndrome is a lifelong condition.

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Putin made his moves when your guys were in office, not a thing when Trump was in office.

SmaptyWolf said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do remember that the endless Afghan war raged all through Trump's presidency, right? It was Biden who had the moral strength to do what was right, knowing full well that getting out after 20 years would be a mess. So W T F are you talking about?

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But yet here you are telling us that Biden war-mongering with Russia and fueling the fire of the war in Ukraine is so "great". Biden the great "peace-maker" who is against war???

Biden with "moral strenth"....LMFAOOOOooooo

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Lol, last time I checked we don't have a single boot on the ground in Ukraine, the Ukrainians are doing all of the bleeding. We're supporting Ukraine exactly because we don't want to be dragged into another war in Europe, and if we don't act now we most definitely will be. F'ing Sweden and Finland just joined NATO for a reason.

Republicans used to understand that, before you let Putin boil your brains with relentless propaganda. Sad!

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Tell me, besides Putin bad, what does the U. S. gain by supporting Ukraine? What strategic advantage do we gain in this never ending war?

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My question is why can't Europe handle this situation on their own? I'll hang up and listen.

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I'm so old I remember when democrats didn't want to police the whole wide world. What changed?

Here's a prototypical BIden/Harris voter. This is the assassin in tehe Georgia school mass shooting which occurred during the last few days.

The Georgia school shooter, Colt Gray is Trans. When will see his manifesto? Will it read like the Tennessee shooter Audrey Hale’s? The FBI dropped the ball AGAIN and blood is on their hands! SHUT THE FBI DOWN before more innocent lives are taken! 😡
Disclosure 🚨🚨🚨I’m told… pic.twitter.com/2vgJSR5K2c

— ~Just Melissa~ (@Melissa1opinion) September 5, 2024