Harris 2024

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Ncsufist
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

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Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.
3% on a severely inflated 3 prior years. Take a price, on dang near anything, when Trump left office, and compare it to today. That is the story that people are living. They are not living today's inflation rate. It's the compounded amount of inflation.


Since you guys are clearly experts on inflation, enough to be vocally outraged about it, maybe you could tell us how much wages have gone up over the last three years?

And then maybe tell us how we survived hamburgers no longer costing a nickel. And then maybe explain what our target inflation rate is and why many economists believe is should be closer to 3% anyway. And then for good measure explain to everyone how "deflation" can actually be more damaging than inflation, which is why we have a target inflation rate in the first place.


My wife had a step increase for years of employment. A set percentage her union negotiated about 5 years ago. It has not increased in the same pace as inflation. My disability is based on CPI-W. And if they used today's cpi-w rate to determine the cola increase for next year. It is 2.9% even though inflation is what 3.2% or somewhere around there? So my "pay" is also not keeping up with inflation.
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Actually, we might need some deflationary actions to get things back in order...


Not an economist. Obviously. But what is bad about deflation? Doesn't that mean that the value of our dollar is higher and can pay for more goods??
Civilized
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Actually, we might need some deflationary actions to get things back in order...

Are there any economists anywhere that are advocating for that?
Civilized
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Yep, that baked in inflation (the enormous increase) happened with Biden. And, no, the wage increases have not kept up with inflation, so, real incomes are going down. Sorry to hurt your feelings...

My broader point is saying "Inflation was too high AND prices are still up!!" is redundant.

Any time inflation has been high, prices will be up forevermore unless you trend into deflation, which nobody wants.
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TheStorm said:


Damn. You sure don't get your information anywhere close to "real time", do you?
Storm, where are you calling out all these other people for posting on Kamala stealing the "no taxes on tips", long after you called me out for this??

Isn't this "old news"??

C'mon man!
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Civilized
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Ncsufist said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Actually, we might need some deflationary actions to get things back in order...


Not an economist. Obviously. But what is bad about deflation? Doesn't that mean that the value of our dollar is higher and can pay for more goods??

Because it's brought on by decreased spending and reduced demand, which diminishes the value of assets we already own (houses, cars). People defer spending decisions because their incomes have been harmed and/or they're waiting to purchase later when prices come down more, which further reduces demand, which weakens the job market, which then spikes unemployment, etc.

Deflation turns into a massive economic negative feedback loop.

None of us want that just so we can say we're paying less for gas and Cheerios.

Forbes: What is Deflation?

The obviously better alternative is moderate inflation and wage growth that tracks with it or exceeds it (which is exactly what we've had the last 18 months).
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SmaptyWolf
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Actually, we might need some deflationary actions to get things back in order...


Lol, these MAGA know-nothings act like everyone else is a threat to the country. Jesus keep them away from the levers of power. They seem determined to re-learn lessons that we already learned a century ago and turn us back into an economic backwater.
SmaptyWolf
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Ncsufist said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.
3% on a severely inflated 3 prior years. Take a price, on dang near anything, when Trump left office, and compare it to today. That is the story that people are living. They are not living today's inflation rate. It's the compounded amount of inflation.


Since you guys are clearly experts on inflation, enough to be vocally outraged about it, maybe you could tell us how much wages have gone up over the last three years?

And then maybe tell us how we survived hamburgers no longer costing a nickel. And then maybe explain what our target inflation rate is and why many economists believe is should be closer to 3% anyway. And then for good measure explain to everyone how "deflation" can actually be more damaging than inflation, which is why we have a target inflation rate in the first place.


My wife had a step increase for years of employment. A set percentage her union negotiated about 5 years ago. It has not increased in the same pace as inflation. My disability is based on CPI-W. And if they used today's cpi-w rate to determine the cola increase for next year. It is 2.9% even though inflation is what 3.2% or somewhere around there? So my "pay" is also not keeping up with inflation.


That definitely sucks. Your wages will get there I'm sure, but averages don't mean everyone gets a smooth ride.
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ncsupack1
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Bas2020 said:




Wild. What a way to show your citizens that you care.
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GuerrillaPack
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GrillOut said:



He just misspoke one time!!

hE jUsT mIsSpOkE!!

The liars at CNN and the rest of the communist Lamestream media told me so!!!

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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GrillOut said:


This is a LIE, you tell em' Sieve
SmaptyWolf
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GrillOut said:




Where did he say he deployed to Afghanistan? He said they deployed in support of OEF, which they most certainly did.

Lol, awww, you guys are trying so hard!
Bas2020
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Habitual Liar

GuerrillaPack
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TheStorm said:


Damn. You sure don't get your information anywhere close to "real time", do you?
More on this just for you...

https://instagr.am/p/C-nfY1Kvhp2
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For a campaign (and administration) so concerned about misinformation, they are doing a good job spreading some of their own here
Oldsouljer
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Actually, we might need some deflationary actions to get things back in order...
It'll be ugly, but necessary.
GuerrillaPack
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FlossyDFlynt said:



For a campaign (and administration) so concerned about misinformation, they are doing a good job spreading some of their own here
EVERYTHING with the communist Left/Democrats is a projection and/or the Saul Alinsky tactic of accusing their opposition of what they are doing.

The Democrats are the true fascists and tyrants -- as they are ideological Marxists/communists and are trying to bring in an authoritarian system of government.

The Democrats are the true "threat to democracy", openly trying to prevent the democratic process from taking place (trying to take Trump off the ballot, using lawfare to hinder/prevent him from running, engaging in massive levels of election fraud and cheating)

The Democrats are the true threat to the rule of law and the Constitution -- as they are open enemies of the 1st and 2nd Amendments, using kangaroo courts to persecute their political opposition (January 6th patriots, sham lawsuits against Trump, etc).

The Democrats are the true purveyors of misinformation - as 99% of their ideology and agenda is false/lies.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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Civilized said:

Ncsufist said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

PackProwl63 said:

So VP Walz misspoke but CNN says Trump lied when he said Biden left 85 Billion worth of equipment overseas and it was 83 Billion Humm! Ok for Democrats to lie and misspeak but not Republicans. You foolish democrats enjoy your socialist/communist country when Harris wins and they end the Republic and make us a wicked democracy! When the inflation goes up 200% overnight enjoy it you fools!!

Eye roll emoji

Catastrophize much?

Why would inflation go up consequentially if Harris gets elected, when Harris' policies will closely emulate Biden's and inflation has been going down for over 2 years?

I think Trump is a colossal moron but even I don't portend of the end of the Union if he's President the next four years. If he is, we'll just have some **** to fix after that.
By what metric is inflation "down"? The rate of inflation is still going strong circa 3% and it's precisely for that reason that the Fed is holding the line on rate cuts. And that's on top of all the inflation that has been baked in since the seven trillion dollar money creation event of 2020.

The fed is going to drop rates imminently because the inflation rate of 2.5% - 3% is about where they want it to be.

And nobody ever claws back baked-in cost increases from periods of higher inflation. That's a pointless argument. To accomplish this, you'd need deflation, which no one wants.
Actually, we might need some deflationary actions to get things back in order...


Not an economist. Obviously. But what is bad about deflation? Doesn't that mean that the value of our dollar is higher and can pay for more goods??

Because it's brought on by decreased spending and reduced demand, which diminishes the value of assets we already own (houses, cars). People defer spending decisions because their incomes have been harmed and/or they're waiting to purchase later when prices come down more, which further reduces demand, which weakens the job market, which then spikes unemployment, etc.

Deflation turns into a massive economic negative feedback loop.

None of us want that just so we can say we're paying less for gas and Cheerios.

Forbes: What is Deflation?

The obviously better alternative is moderate inflation and wage growth that tracks with it or exceeds it (which is exactly what we've had the last 18 months).
The Federal Government needs to signal that they are serious about governing and reign in spending. That will have a good effect on inflation.
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Bas2020 said:

Insane that this could actually happen in America.

Tim Walz sends out the gastapo to shoot women and children standing on their own porch.


I heard about this this morning. Had it been me, I think I would have started shooting back and been well within my rights. Of course we have no rights anymore, but I would have been firing back. This is BS!
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https://instagr.am/p/C-n7gd9sHYV


As she mentions and as most of us know, during the covid scamdemic commie Democrats allowed big box stores (Walmart, Costco, etc), liquor stores, and even strip clubs to remain open (deeming them "essential"), but ordered mom & pop stores and restaurants to shut down. Of course, this is all part of the Marxist plan to destroy small businesses and destroy the middle class.

Fruity Tampon Tim Walz is a commie tyrant who wants to take your guns, says you don't have freedom of speech if the Left deems your speech to be "hate speech" or "misinformation", will take children away from parents if they disagree with the child being brainwashed to wanting to change their gender, and will throw grandmothers in prison for operating their business and disobeying tyrannical unconstitutional shut down orders.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
Civilized
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Bas2020 said:

Insane that this could actually happen in America.

Tim Walz sends out the gastapo to shoot women and children standing on their own porch.


I heard about this this morning. Had it been me, I think I would have started shooting back and been well within my rights. Of course we have no rights anymore, but I would have been firing back. This is BS!

Probably because it is BS.

Are there any outlets other than social media randos named Bubblebathgirl reporting it?
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Civilized said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Bas2020 said:

Insane that this could actually happen in America.

Tim Walz sends out the gastapo to shoot women and children standing on their own porch.


I heard about this this morning. Had it been me, I think I would have started shooting back and been well within my rights. Of course we have no rights anymore, but I would have been firing back. This is BS!

Probably because it is BS.

Are there any outlets other than social media randos named Bubblebathgirl reporting it?


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/news/light-em-up-video-appears-to-show-law-enforcement-shooting-paint-rounds-at-citizens-on-their-porch/
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LOL, #daSieve says it ain't so.
ncsupack1
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Werewolf said:

LOL, #daSieve says it ain't so.


You gotta dig to find it.
caryking
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It's funny how Civ, and that other person, tries to contend that inflation has settled down…

If so, why this campaign slogan?


BBW12OG
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ncsupack1 said:

Werewolf said:

LOL, #daSieve says it ain't so.


You gotta dig to find it.


He will just say "you aren't seeing the entire story….."

He's nothing but a cuckboy….

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caryking said:

It's funny how Civ, and that other person, tries to contend that inflation has settled down…

If so, why this campaign slogan?





…day 25 of dodging the media and not answering questions about issues like this.
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Kamala Harris' campaign team is editing news headlines in her favor without outlets' knowledge

https://nypost.com/2024/08/13/us-news/harris-campaign-editing-news-headlines-in-her-favor-without-outlets-knowledge-report/
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Is this misinformation our liberal friends have been crying about for years or is it different when democrats do it?
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caryking said:

It's funny how Civ, and that other person, tries to contend that inflation has settled down…

If so, why this campaign slogan?



Uhhuh. She's had four years. Incredible.
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Gulfstream4
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ncsupack1 said:




She's just going to hide and let the MSM campaign for her. The low information voters will be none the wiser for it. Ignorance is bliss.
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Gulfstream4 said:

ncsupack1 said:




She's just going to hide and let the MSM campaign for her. The low information voters will be none the wiser for it. Ignorance is bliss.


2020 all over again
 
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