SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Bas2020 said:

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IF Americans have any brains left this proposal alone would be discrediting for Harris. Talking about breaking the backs of the middle class.

Kamala Harris just endorsed Biden's capital gains tax proposal for her campaign…

45% long-term capital gains tax.
By far the highest in history.

Combined with state taxes, many states will be well over 50%. Another insane policy. pic.twitter.com/kA5Kc5MVnz

— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) August 20, 2024

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Lol, the proposed higher rate (which I haven't seen confirmed that she even supports) would only kick in after the FIRST MILLION in capital gains income for the year!

I wonder why they left that part out? You'd almost think they lie to you guys nonstop.

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it's ok, that's what's going to happen to the middle class too when SS and Medicare become insolvent anyway. It's an inevitability until we vote for serious people. So far we haven't.

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If you're worried about our finances, maybe you could vote for serious people that don't keep adding to the red part.

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Why do you have an issue with people spending their money the way they want to rather than the federal government? We're way beyond spending for the public good. Maybe you could vote for serious people who don't keep adding to the gray part.

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That certainly makes a great bumper sticker. In your mind is there actually a tax rate that is "as low as we can reasonably go and still pay for the society that let's you make money in the first place", or are you one of those people who thinks the tax rate should be zero?

Btw, here's a dirty little secret: The reason Republicans never actually cut any spending when they have total control of the government is that there's actually very little left to cut that we don't need to run a First World country. That's why you hear stupid stuff now like "we promise to cut the Department of Education!". They're out of rational excuses to keep cutting taxes.

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Seriously? First you have no idea why people use different loan products and now this comment about cutting programs. SMH. Here is another dirty little secret: you do not have to cut a single program in order to reduce spending!

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So you're bullish on unchecked deficit spending?

Pubs have got to get behind taxing AND spending less. That has clear merit.

This don't-tax-but-still-spend approach is the worst of all worlds.

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Come on civ. I think you graduated from NC State. I hope smart enough to figure it out. There are easy ways to not cut programs and tax less.

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Lol, by all means enlighten us! What are the "easy ways" to reduce spending in a way that meaningfully changes our economic trajectory? Got any specific items? I think you'll find that there are lots of economic unintended consequences hiding around every corner, and it mostly doesn't matter much since you're quibbling about a tiny slice of the pie anyway.

The elephant in the room is SS and Medicare, and reducing those benefits is a nonstarter for a lot of sane reasons.

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Bas2020 said:

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IF Americans have any brains left this proposal alone would be discrediting for Harris. Talking about breaking the backs of the middle class.

Kamala Harris just endorsed Biden's capital gains tax proposal for her campaign…

45% long-term capital gains tax.
By far the highest in history.

Combined with state taxes, many states will be well over 50%. Another insane policy. pic.twitter.com/kA5Kc5MVnz

— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) August 20, 2024

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Lol, the proposed higher rate (which I haven't seen confirmed that she even supports) would only kick in after the FIRST MILLION in capital gains income for the year!

I wonder why they left that part out? You'd almost think they lie to you guys nonstop.

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it's ok, that's what's going to happen to the middle class too when SS and Medicare become insolvent anyway. It's an inevitability until we vote for serious people. So far we haven't.

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If you're worried about our finances, maybe you could vote for serious people that don't keep adding to the red part.

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Why do you have an issue with people spending their money the way they want to rather than the federal government? We're way beyond spending for the public good. Maybe you could vote for serious people who don't keep adding to the gray part.

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That certainly makes a great bumper sticker. In your mind is there actually a tax rate that is "as low as we can reasonably go and still pay for the society that let's you make money in the first place", or are you one of those people who thinks the tax rate should be zero?

Btw, here's a dirty little secret: The reason Republicans never actually cut any spending when they have total control of the government is that there's actually very little left to cut that we don't need to run a First World country. That's why you hear stupid stuff now like "we promise to cut the Department of Education!". They're out of rational excuses to keep cutting taxes.

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Seriously? First you have no idea why people use different loan products and now this comment about cutting programs. SMH. Here is another dirty little secret: you do not have to cut a single program in order to reduce spending!

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So you're bullish on unchecked deficit spending?

Pubs have got to get behind taxing AND spending less. That has clear merit.

This don't-tax-but-still-spend approach is the worst of all worlds.

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Come on civ. I think you graduated from NC State. I hope smart enough to figure it out. There are easy ways to not cut programs and tax less.

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Lol, by all means enlighten us! What are the "easy ways" to reduce spending in a way that meaningfully changes our economic trajectory? Got any specific items? I think you'll find that there are lots of economic unintended consequences hiding around every corner, and it mostly doesn't matter much since you're quibbling about a tiny slice of the pie anyway.

The elephant in the room is SS and Medicare, and reducing those benefits is a nonstarter for a lot of sane reasons.

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My god. I never once said dramatically changing any trajectory. I just said you do not need to cut programs and can reduce taxes at the same time. In reference to your comment about no more programs can be cut.

For Civ I know first hand a contracted defense project changed from a cost plus project where profit was guaranteed because any addition costs were paid for by the government to a meet budget project. It happened while trump was in office but I have no idea if his administration was responsible for the change.

This program cut its costs by 30% by just getting more efficient. Very easy! So now this program needs 30% less tax dollars to meet its objective. Program not cut and spending reduced!

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Bas2020 said:

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IF Americans have any brains left this proposal alone would be discrediting for Harris. Talking about breaking the backs of the middle class.

Kamala Harris just endorsed Biden's capital gains tax proposal for her campaign…

45% long-term capital gains tax.
By far the highest in history.

Combined with state taxes, many states will be well over 50%. Another insane policy. pic.twitter.com/kA5Kc5MVnz

— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) August 20, 2024

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Lol, the proposed higher rate (which I haven't seen confirmed that she even supports) would only kick in after the FIRST MILLION in capital gains income for the year!

I wonder why they left that part out? You'd almost think they lie to you guys nonstop.

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it's ok, that's what's going to happen to the middle class too when SS and Medicare become insolvent anyway. It's an inevitability until we vote for serious people. So far we haven't.

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If you're worried about our finances, maybe you could vote for serious people that don't keep adding to the red part.

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Why do you have an issue with people spending their money the way they want to rather than the federal government? We're way beyond spending for the public good. Maybe you could vote for serious people who don't keep adding to the gray part.

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That certainly makes a great bumper sticker. In your mind is there actually a tax rate that is "as low as we can reasonably go and still pay for the society that let's you make money in the first place", or are you one of those people who thinks the tax rate should be zero?

Btw, here's a dirty little secret: The reason Republicans never actually cut any spending when they have total control of the government is that there's actually very little left to cut that we don't need to run a First World country. That's why you hear stupid stuff now like "we promise to cut the Department of Education!". They're out of rational excuses to keep cutting taxes.

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Seriously? First you have no idea why people use different loan products and now this comment about cutting programs. SMH. Here is another dirty little secret: you do not have to cut a single program in order to reduce spending!

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So you're bullish on unchecked deficit spending?

Pubs have got to get behind taxing AND spending less. That has clear merit.

This don't-tax-but-still-spend approach is the worst of all worlds.

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Come on civ. I think you graduated from NC State. I hope smart enough to figure it out. There are easy ways to not cut programs and tax less.

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Lol, by all means enlighten us! What are the "easy ways" to reduce spending in a way that meaningfully changes our economic trajectory? Got any specific items? I think you'll find that there are lots of economic unintended consequences hiding around every corner, and it mostly doesn't matter much since you're quibbling about a tiny slice of the pie anyway.

The elephant in the room is SS and Medicare, and reducing those benefits is a nonstarter for a lot of sane reasons.

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My god. I never once said dramatically changing any trajectory. I just said you do not need to cut programs and can reduce taxes at the same time. In reference to your comment about no more programs can be cut.

For Civ I know first hand a contracted defense project changed from a cost plus project where profit was guaranteed because any addition costs were paid for by the government to a meet budget project. It happened while trump was in office but I have no idea if his administration was responsible for the change.

This program cut its costs by 30% by just getting more efficient. Very easy! So now this program needs 30% less tax dollars to meet its objective. Program not cut and spending reduced!

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Lol, you seem very agitated. Sorry for pointing out that your ARM decision was probably a bad one. Don't get me wrong, there are certainly situations, particularly with fairly predictable businesses, where ARMs make sense. But the reality is that banks make money off of ARMs because most people have a difficult time accurately assessing risk and predicting the future, as you just found out the hard way.

Anyway, I'm all for increasing efficiency, particularly in our defense spending. That's why I want sane Republicans to take their party back... we need that pressure to keep our bureaucracy in check. But at this point any efficiency we could squeeze out of this turnip would go toward getting our deficit under control. The fact that you still have more tax cuts in mind is a clear indication that you're detached from economic reality.

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Not agitated at all, just proved who you are and that I hope you are not managing anyones money like you indicate (or at least want us to think) you are.

I always want tax cuts. Not going to change. We are already taxed way too much. Which leads to the waste and inefficientcies. Government should have accountabiliy to their spending.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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Civilized said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Bas2020 said:

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IF Americans have any brains left this proposal alone would be discrediting for Harris. Talking about breaking the backs of the middle class.

Kamala Harris just endorsed Biden's capital gains tax proposal for her campaign…

45% long-term capital gains tax.
By far the highest in history.

Combined with state taxes, many states will be well over 50%. Another insane policy. pic.twitter.com/kA5Kc5MVnz

— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) August 20, 2024

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Lol, the proposed higher rate (which I haven't seen confirmed that she even supports) would only kick in after the FIRST MILLION in capital gains income for the year!

I wonder why they left that part out? You'd almost think they lie to you guys nonstop.

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it's ok, that's what's going to happen to the middle class too when SS and Medicare become insolvent anyway. It's an inevitability until we vote for serious people. So far we haven't.

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If you're worried about our finances, maybe you could vote for serious people that don't keep adding to the red part.

---

Why do you have an issue with people spending their money the way they want to rather than the federal government? We're way beyond spending for the public good. Maybe you could vote for serious people who don't keep adding to the gray part.

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That certainly makes a great bumper sticker. In your mind is there actually a tax rate that is "as low as we can reasonably go and still pay for the society that let's you make money in the first place", or are you one of those people who thinks the tax rate should be zero?

Btw, here's a dirty little secret: The reason Republicans never actually cut any spending when they have total control of the government is that there's actually very little left to cut that we don't need to run a First World country. That's why you hear stupid stuff now like "we promise to cut the Department of Education!". They're out of rational excuses to keep cutting taxes.

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Seriously? First you have no idea why people use different loan products and now this comment about cutting programs. SMH. Here is another dirty little secret: you do not have to cut a single program in order to reduce spending!

---

So you're bullish on unchecked deficit spending?

Pubs have got to get behind taxing AND spending less. That has clear merit.

This don't-tax-but-still-spend approach is the worst of all worlds.

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Come on civ. I think you graduated from NC State. I hope smart enough to figure it out. There are easy ways to not cut programs and tax less.

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Lol, by all means enlighten us! What are the "easy ways" to reduce spending in a way that meaningfully changes our economic trajectory? Got any specific items? I think you'll find that there are lots of economic unintended consequences hiding around every corner, and it mostly doesn't matter much since you're quibbling about a tiny slice of the pie anyway.

The elephant in the room is SS and Medicare, and reducing those benefits is a nonstarter for a lot of sane reasons.

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My god. I never once said dramatically changing any trajectory. I just said you do not need to cut programs and can reduce taxes at the same time. In reference to your comment about no more programs can be cut.

For Civ I know first hand a contracted defense project changed from a cost plus project where profit was guaranteed because any addition costs were paid for by the government to a meet budget project. It happened while trump was in office but I have no idea if his administration was responsible for the change.

This program cut its costs by 30% by just getting more efficient. Very easy! So now this program needs 30% less tax dollars to meet its objective. Program not cut and spending reduced!

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Lol, you seem very agitated. Sorry for pointing out that your ARM decision was probably a bad one. Don't get me wrong, there are certainly situations, particularly with fairly predictable businesses, where ARMs make sense. But the reality is that banks make money off of ARMs because most people have a difficult time accurately assessing risk and predicting the future, as you just found out the hard way.

Anyway, I'm all for increasing efficiency, particularly in our defense spending. That's why I want sane Republicans to take their party back... we need that pressure to keep our bureaucracy in check. But at this point any efficiency we could squeeze out of this turnip would go toward getting our deficit under control. The fact that you still have more tax cuts in mind is a clear indication that you're detached from economic reality.

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Not agitated at all, just proved who you are and that I hope you are not managing anyones money like you indicate (or at least want us to think) you are.

I always want tax cuts. Not going to change. We are already taxed way too much. Which leads to the waste and inefficientcies. Government should have accountabiliy to their spending.

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Lol, no, I'm not a nitwit money manager, most of whom regularly underperform the S&P 500. I hope I didn't give you that impression.

So are you one of those guys who think the tax rate should be zero? Or do you have some "not too much" number in mind?

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In my mind this guy represents every white male Kamala voter stereotype . Enjoy .

This is the greatest interview with the BBC you'll see about Kamala Harris. pic.twitter.com/BFRXTjYDcz

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) August 21, 2024

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Bas2020 said:

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In my mind this guy represents every white male Kamala voter stereotype . Enjoy .

This is the greatest interview with the BBC you'll see about Kamala Harris. pic.twitter.com/BFRXTjYDcz

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) August 21, 2024

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Day 2 of the DNC is off to a strong start!

What a shtshow 🤣 pic.twitter.com/mgh0mZWpjJ

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) August 20, 2024

😎Is That a Q around the Podium ⁉️🔥🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/zxTW4FNfqJ

— Viola Bergeron WILL NOT COMPLY!!!! (@StarSeed_2020) August 20, 2024

SmaptyWolf said:

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You know Dems are having a good day when Were is up to his 30th post.

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I’ll never vote Democratic again. I always did! As far as I’m concerned it’s a criminal enterprise at this point. https://t.co/4hlLiy0BSt

— Noah Kaufman, MD (@noahkaufmanmd) August 22, 2024