jadawson said:
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jadawson said:
pineknollshoresking said:
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You seem to be the most pissed off moderate I have ever been around. It's ok that you are protesting so much..... I would feel the same had the election been stolen in 2016. Luckily they hadn't worked all the kinks out of their fraud scheme then. Too bad they were foolish and left too much meat on the bone for it to happen again. Watch and see what happens to the election laws the next two years. Your side will be the ones pissing and moaning like usual. And before you say you aren't a democrat your words and posting say the absolute opposite. Just like old times...
He is not a moderate... and he never has been a moderate.
Jesus nobody cares if you think he's a moderate or not.
And moderate is a misnomer anyway. Most 'moderates' are really centrists, which is to say the average of all their positions is somewhat middling, not that all their positions are in the middle of the spectrum.
Basically you can't put centrists in a neat right or left box.
I'm curious... what positions make a person a moderate and/or centrist?
centrist/moderate isn't a specific position. It's someone who doesn't fall wholesale into a liberal or conservative stance across the spectrum of issues. It probably describes most people in the country if they are honest with themselves but most people tend to vote for the same party time after time because while they have beliefs across the spectrum there are a few specific issues they care the most about.
And that said nothing...
Everyone has positions on certain issues. They may be few; however, they have a position. Please enlighten us on those, or, are you saying they vote on feelings?
How would you described yourself?
What issues are meaningful to you?
And that said nothing...
How so? I thought it was pretty clear what i was saying. Most people have some traditionally "liberal" views and some traditionally "conservative" views. They aren't just pure "conservative" or "liberal". The median of all of their views would be in the middle of the graph, aka "Centrist".
Everyone has positions on certain issues. They may be few; however, they have a position.
Thats what i just said....
Please enlighten us on those, or, are you saying they vote on feelings?
I'm saying the opposite, though they may arrive to their positions via feelings, aka a bleeding heart.
How would you described yourself?
What issues are meaningful to you?
In terms of US politics i end up left on most issues thought i certainly don't agree with the Democrats on everything.
My big issues are the Environment, both from a climate change and a green/renewable energy perspective.
Reduction of incarceration rates around the country through the ending of for-profit prisons, reform programs to lead to higher recidivism rates for non-violent offenders, and things like legalization of marijuana.
Education reform, both at a K-12 level and higher education. About 2/3 of the states in the country are still spending less on public education per student than they were before the 2008 recession. Also Student loan debt is the next big bubble to burst in our economy and it needs to be addressed. Loan forgiveness is fine and dandy but the issue will just happen again if the outrageous costs of tuition aren't addressed then it will just happen again. Cost of tuition has risen 8x faster than wages in the US over the last 30 years.
Tax reform - Simplify tax code and restructure it to allow for the people that actually "run" the economy (small business, middle class, property owners) to keep their feet on the ground and pass a little more of the buck on the upper class and fortune 100 type companies that use clever accounting to write off a lot of their taxes each year.
That's the beauty of a limited government. You and I can have different views and still not trample on each other. That being said, you don't impress me as a limited government type. So, for that reason, I call you a liberal, not in the classic convention. Probably, more like a Progressive.
Being that our constitution is designed to be limited in scope (unfortunately people like you have destroyed the very idea of our constitution), you and I can have different personal views and live among each other.
For instance: I personally disagree with same sex marriage; however, I would rather attack the issuance of marriage licenses and tax codes to insure each person the liberty they want. In other words, the government doesn't have a say in your life.
Regarding your affection for the environment; well, I really don't see a role for the federal government. So, we will be at odds on that one.
Taxes on business: you probably agree with an overturn on citizens United? If so, then I would say don't tax a business. A simple no taxation without representation mindset.
Individual taxes: affluent people pay entirely too much as it stands. When everyone, in our society, pays federal taxes, then we can start a dialogue. Currently, 1/2 the tax paying population doesn't pay one dime of federal taxes. That is completely taking advantage of the affluent.
Student loans: hey, the kids signed up for it... get over it and pay the loans back.
Cost of tuition: first, we need to get rid of 1/2 or more of the professors. They are indoctrinating our kids into some radical beliefs. Good kids are going into college and coming out with this radical notion of the country.
Regarding the cost of tuition (without giving it away from tax dollars - free tuition), how would you consider lowering the cost? I don't mean just lowering the cost of tuition to the student; rather, lowering the cost to run the university, thus lowering the tuition...
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