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WHOLE NEW SERIES! Loved the intensity they played with tonight. The "want to" factor was there in a way it wasn't for the first two games. Hope Foegele is okay though, can't stand to lose much more of our top 9 with Nino and Troch out.
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Cornpack said:

WHOLE NEW SERIES! Loved the intensity they played with tonight. The "want to" factor was there in a way it wasn't for the first two games. Hope Foegele is okay though, can't stand to lose much more of our top 9 with Nino and Troch out.
Conversely, the AHL boys (Geekie/Lorentz) played well. Created a few chances, too. If Foegele can't go tomorrow you might see an entire line of AHL guys, assuming McCormick, Bishop or Suzuki is the guy called up. McCormick and Bishop got some run this year with us.
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I don't want to totally blame Mrazek but putting 4 goals past Vasilevskiy should be more than enough. Hope we see Ned Tuesday.
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Tough one to lose today. Damn it.
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Cornpack said:

I don't want to totally blame Mrazek but putting 4 goals past Vasilevskiy should be more than enough. Hope we see Ned Tuesday.
I do. RB gambled on Mrazek in Game 4 even though Ned has been the better tender. You gotta back up that faith your coach puts in you but he laid an egg instead and it may turn out to be pivotal in the series. You got to win the games where Vasilevskiy plays poorly
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hokiewolf said:

Cornpack said:

I don't want to totally blame Mrazek but putting 4 goals past Vasilevskiy should be more than enough. Hope we see Ned Tuesday.
I do. RB gambled on Mrazek in Game 4 even though Ned has been the better tender. You gotta back up that faith your coach puts in you but he laid an egg instead and it may turn out to be pivotal in the series. You got to win the games where Vasilevskiy plays poorly
Mrazek did let in a bad goal, but I put blame solely on the players for taking so many penalties. You simply cannot give a team as talented as Tampa that many advantages and not expect them to capitalize. Its a real shame it happened on a game where Vasilevskiy had a poor performance
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Clean out your lockers and head home. Good season all for naught. Just not enough horses, and too many injuries at the worst of times.
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Only game we scored more than two goals in regulation, we lost. Not gonna win a cup like that
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Waking up this morning, this still stings. That said, brighter days are ahead. We have a young but very deep team and will be competitive for years to come. Hopefully the expansion draft doesn't hurt us too much but I'm sure we will be fine on he other end of it regardless. Go Canes!
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I'm not that into hockey, but for a team that I thought was near the top of the league in penalty kills, it seemed like Tampa burned us regularly on penalty plays.
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dogplasma said:

I'm not that into hockey, but for a team that I thought was near the top of the league in penalty kills, it seemed like Tampa burned us regularly on penalty plays.
Helps when you are close to 20 million over the cap (which doesnt exist in the playoffs, but I digress)
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Protection lists for the Seattle expansion draft are due this weekend
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Some big names around the league available for Seattle. If I was a betting man I'd say we are probably gonna lose Jake Bean but exposing Nino could prove too temping for Seattle to pass up on.
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Cornpack said:

Some big names around the league available for Seattle. If I was a betting man I'd say we are probably gonna lose Jake Bean but exposing Nino could prove too temping for Seattle to pass up on.
Ill be shocked if it isnt Bean. Ron has said cap space is very valuable and I just dont see him taking an expensive(ish) winger with only one year left on his contract. Bean is much younger and cheaper
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Cornpack said:

Some big names around the league available for Seattle. If I was a betting man I'd say we are probably gonna lose Jake Bean but exposing Nino could prove too temping for Seattle to pass up on.
Ill be shocked if it isnt Bean. Ron has said cap space is very valuable and I just dont see him taking an expensive(ish) winger with only one year left on his contract. Bean is much younger and cheaper
I definitely agree. I think it would almost be worth offering a first (or winger prospect) to get them to take Gardiner since our prospect pool for defensemen after Bean (other than maybe Joey Keane who played in the AHL last year) is so empty. We aren't going to take anyone in the late first that will be as good as Bean will be and we can't risk losing all our of our D depth in one offseason.
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The #NHL's 2021-22 regular season schedule that will be released on Thursday includes the 3-week Olympic (and All-Star) break.

There is a second (non-public) schedule that the league has made in case NHL players don't go to Beijing.

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Well, I was wrong

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FlossyDFlynt said:

Well, I was wrong


I'm not upset about that. Geekie was fine but don't think the top end will ever be there
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Im coming around to it being best case scenario for the Canes. Geekie was solid but can be replaced much easier than Bean. If Dougie walks (more than likely), Bean is a high upside who could potentially move into the top 4. If Dougie does resign, then you have more trade bait.

Pretty happy with how this is turning out
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We have to be trading something to Seattle to get them to take Geekie right?
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I'll answer my own question



Massive W for us gets even bigger
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I am straight up not having a good time rn

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Cornpack said:

I am straight up not having a good time rn


Yeah, I do not really understand this move. Guy had great stats in taking on a larger role last year.

At this point, I guess they stick with Mrazek? He looked great early last year...
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I am straight up not having a good time rn


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I don't hate selling high on Ned. My issue is that this ownership group seemingly does not understand how to negotiate contracts.

Good thread here from Adam Gold:

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Im off the ledge a bit, but I want to see some movement. Sara Civians article on the Athletic has some quotes from Don that make the move make sense, but there has to be follow up action in the next week or so or itll just ring hollow.

Overall, I think Dundon is a really good upgrade over Karmanos, but he need to learn quickly that this cant be run like his other businesses. Perception matters in sports and I feel like he hasnt fully grasped that (see negotiations with Don last season, Rod this season)
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Im off the ledge a bit, but I want to see some movement. Sara Civians article on the Athletic has some quotes from Don that make the move make sense, but there has to be follow up action in the next week or so or itll just ring hollow.

Overall, I think Dundon is a really good upgrade over Karmanos, but he need to learn quickly that this cant be run like his other businesses. Perception matters in sports and I feel like he hasnt fully grasped that (see negotiations with Don last season, Rod this season)
it's all about who they get as a veteran goal tender. I would think our current D would make the position attractive to free agents.

The only thing I'm a little worried about right now is maybe Hamilton doesn't resign.
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hokiewolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

Im off the ledge a bit, but I want to see some movement. Sara Civians article on the Athletic has some quotes from Don that make the move make sense, but there has to be follow up action in the next week or so or itll just ring hollow.

Overall, I think Dundon is a really good upgrade over Karmanos, but he need to learn quickly that this cant be run like his other businesses. Perception matters in sports and I feel like he hasnt fully grasped that (see negotiations with Don last season, Rod this season)
it's all about who they get as a veteran goal tender. I would think our current D would make the position attractive to free agents.

The only thing I'm a little worried about right now is maybe Hamilton doesn't resign.
From what I have heard/read, I would be really surprised to see Dougie back. He's about to get paid
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dwanna said:

hokiewolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

Im off the ledge a bit, but I want to see some movement. Sara Civians article on the Athletic has some quotes from Don that make the move make sense, but there has to be follow up action in the next week or so or itll just ring hollow.

Overall, I think Dundon is a really good upgrade over Karmanos, but he need to learn quickly that this cant be run like his other businesses. Perception matters in sports and I feel like he hasnt fully grasped that (see negotiations with Don last season, Rod this season)
it's all about who they get as a veteran goal tender. I would think our current D would make the position attractive to free agents.

The only thing I'm a little worried about right now is maybe Hamilton doesn't resign.
From what I have heard/read, I would be really surprised to see Dougie back. He's about to get paid
Actually the market on Dougie is a lot smaller than initially thought. I think the chances he comes back are closer to 50/50 than once expected.

But yes, Dundon is stubborn and really could use some one to help him with contracts- because he has clearly sucked at it. Who knows what would've happened with Aho if Montreal hadn't made him a matchable offer.
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SportManagementEngineer said:

dwanna said:

hokiewolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

Im off the ledge a bit, but I want to see some movement. Sara Civians article on the Athletic has some quotes from Don that make the move make sense, but there has to be follow up action in the next week or so or itll just ring hollow.

Overall, I think Dundon is a really good upgrade over Karmanos, but he need to learn quickly that this cant be run like his other businesses. Perception matters in sports and I feel like he hasnt fully grasped that (see negotiations with Don last season, Rod this season)
it's all about who they get as a veteran goal tender. I would think our current D would make the position attractive to free agents.

The only thing I'm a little worried about right now is maybe Hamilton doesn't resign.
From what I have heard/read, I would be really surprised to see Dougie back. He's about to get paid
Actually the market on Dougie is a lot smaller than initially thought. I think the chances he comes back are closer to 50/50 than once expected.

But yes, Dundon is stubborn and really could use some one to help him with contracts- because he has clearly sucked at it. Who knows what would've happened with Aho if Montreal hadn't made him a matchable offer.
Interesting. I haven't seen that. I think there are some bigger names out there as free agents, and teams that miss on the top names might move on to DH.

Maybe the Ned move gives them more money to potentially resign Dougie, but I saw his next contract is probably around $8mil, so I don't know if Canes pony that up. Not sure Dougie gives that big of a discount to stay in town... I absolutely hope it could work out, but not expecting it really.

Guessing more free agent signings around the league pickup after the draft...
 
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