Yeah, there is one good finish every 6-8 road courses (surely due to a caution), and NASCAR suddenly thinks we need 1/3 of the races.metcalfmafia said:
Road courses suck. There I said it.
I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
Chem, just curious… why did you chose Bubba as your example?Packchem91 said:I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
From that perspective, it makes sense....but I've spent 45 years associating the 4th of July with the Firecracker and looking forward to that race
because he won at Dega (similar to Daytona) in the post-season last year. He could have won at Daytona in February. And he has pretty much been bad the rest of the season --- but he gets a wildcard at Daytona in that last race, which adds a level of excitement IMO (along with Michael McDowell, Austin Dillon, and potentially even Kevin Harvick).caryking said:Chem, just curious… why did you chose Bubba as your example?Packchem91 said:I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
From that perspective, it makes sense....but I've spent 45 years associating the 4th of July with the Firecracker and looking forward to that race
Packchem91 said:because he won at Dega (similar to Daytona) in the post-season last year. He could have won at Daytona in February. And he has pretty much been bad the rest of the season --- but he gets a wildcard at Daytona in that last race, which adds a level of excitement IMO (along with Michael McDowell, Austin Dillon, and potentially even Kevin Harvick).caryking said:Chem, just curious… why did you chose Bubba as your example?Packchem91 said:I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
From that perspective, it makes sense....but I've spent 45 years associating the 4th of July with the Firecracker and looking forward to that race
If the transfer race were Texas or Atlanta or Richmond......the potential list of winners would be about 6-7...and those would almost surely be guys who've already won during the season, because that is who tends to do well at those tracks.
But make that race one of the 2 super speedways...and its 30+ drivers have a shot at winning.
Two....I'd like to see Bubba do well.
Ok. But is ok for me to like him, right?caryking said:Packchem91 said:because he won at Dega (similar to Daytona) in the post-season last year. He could have won at Daytona in February. And he has pretty much been bad the rest of the season --- but he gets a wildcard at Daytona in that last race, which adds a level of excitement IMO (along with Michael McDowell, Austin Dillon, and potentially even Kevin Harvick).caryking said:Chem, just curious… why did you chose Bubba as your example?Packchem91 said:I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
From that perspective, it makes sense....but I've spent 45 years associating the 4th of July with the Firecracker and looking forward to that race
If the transfer race were Texas or Atlanta or Richmond......the potential list of winners would be about 6-7...and those would almost surely be guys who've already won during the season, because that is who tends to do well at those tracks.
But make that race one of the 2 super speedways...and its 30+ drivers have a shot at winning.
Two....I'd like to see Bubba do well.
I'm sure Bubba is probably a good guy; however, that one win was a true gift. We have so many other good drivers that don't get the media attention Bubba gets. You know why he gets it…
Chem, all of us root for who we like. No problem from me. Heck, I like Chastain!!Packchem91 said:Ok. But is ok for me to like him, right?caryking said:Packchem91 said:because he won at Dega (similar to Daytona) in the post-season last year. He could have won at Daytona in February. And he has pretty much been bad the rest of the season --- but he gets a wildcard at Daytona in that last race, which adds a level of excitement IMO (along with Michael McDowell, Austin Dillon, and potentially even Kevin Harvick).caryking said:Chem, just curious… why did you chose Bubba as your example?Packchem91 said:I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
From that perspective, it makes sense....but I've spent 45 years associating the 4th of July with the Firecracker and looking forward to that race
If the transfer race were Texas or Atlanta or Richmond......the potential list of winners would be about 6-7...and those would almost surely be guys who've already won during the season, because that is who tends to do well at those tracks.
But make that race one of the 2 super speedways...and its 30+ drivers have a shot at winning.
Two....I'd like to see Bubba do well.
I'm sure Bubba is probably a good guy; however, that one win was a true gift. We have so many other good drivers that don't get the media attention Bubba gets. You know why he gets it…
And the point is still valid -- and he may be the best example anyway. A guy who has struggled, has no shot of making the final 16, BUT can win on a super speedway and shake things up.
It may have been a gift, but he was leading on the final lap at Daytona in FEB...
As for the media attention he gets, I don't blame NASCAR. I'd be looking to get more eyes on my sport as well. Now, if he turns out to be more Danica than not, it won't last much longer. I don't think Denny Hamlin will suffer a guy who continually makes mistakes when there are other up-and-coming drivers out there. But also hard to throw away if you have sponsors willing to put up $$$$
caryking said:Chem, all of us root for who we like. No problem from me. Heck, I like Chastain!!Packchem91 said:Ok. But is ok for me to like him, right?caryking said:Packchem91 said:because he won at Dega (similar to Daytona) in the post-season last year. He could have won at Daytona in February. And he has pretty much been bad the rest of the season --- but he gets a wildcard at Daytona in that last race, which adds a level of excitement IMO (along with Michael McDowell, Austin Dillon, and potentially even Kevin Harvick).caryking said:Chem, just curious… why did you chose Bubba as your example?Packchem91 said:I miss it. But didn't they move it to be the last race before the round of 16? The craziness of the super speedway race makes all those last minute gambles worth something -- with a realistic chance a guy who hasn't won all year can win to get in (like a Bubba).caryking said:Completely agree!!! Firecracker 400!!!Glasswolf said:
I understand change and progress but I cannot get use to the July 4th race not being at Daytona.
From that perspective, it makes sense....but I've spent 45 years associating the 4th of July with the Firecracker and looking forward to that race
If the transfer race were Texas or Atlanta or Richmond......the potential list of winners would be about 6-7...and those would almost surely be guys who've already won during the season, because that is who tends to do well at those tracks.
But make that race one of the 2 super speedways...and its 30+ drivers have a shot at winning.
Two....I'd like to see Bubba do well.
I'm sure Bubba is probably a good guy; however, that one win was a true gift. We have so many other good drivers that don't get the media attention Bubba gets. You know why he gets it…
And the point is still valid -- and he may be the best example anyway. A guy who has struggled, has no shot of making the final 16, BUT can win on a super speedway and shake things up.
It may have been a gift, but he was leading on the final lap at Daytona in FEB...
As for the media attention he gets, I don't blame NASCAR. I'd be looking to get more eyes on my sport as well. Now, if he turns out to be more Danica than not, it won't last much longer. I don't think Denny Hamlin will suffer a guy who continually makes mistakes when there are other up-and-coming drivers out there. But also hard to throw away if you have sponsors willing to put up $$$$
Also, Hamlin has a partner in that venture and he has shown that he's not capable of putting a winning product on the court. My hunch is: he would do no different, in Nascar. Bubba is not going to be Danica. Bubba has more talent, based on what I can see...
Motorsports on Sunday:
— Adam Stern (@A_S12) July 6, 2022
1) NASCAR (Road America, USA Network): 1.15 rating, 1.930 million viewers
2) F1 (Silverstone, ESPN2): 0.64 rating, 1.239 million viewers
3) IndyCar (Mid-Ohio, NBC): 0.57 rating, 877,000 viewers
🔲 F1 had the most viewers in the 18-49 category with 643K. pic.twitter.com/3hxHyJQjLO
Sunday marked the first NASCAR Cup race this season on @USA_Network, and viewership was down sharply from last year's event on @NBC (1.930 million Sunday versus 3.078 million last year).
— Adam Stern (@A_S12) July 6, 2022
🔲 Still, Road America was the second most-viewed sport event of the weekend after @WWE. pic.twitter.com/ZSlo6d4MEo
I had to look around to figure out what channel it was eventually going to be on... then didn't get to watch it anyway.ncsupack1 said:
NBC needs better promotion. Their product is better but I have always felt that they lack promoting the race. Also, they say NASCAR on NBC, but it's actually USA. I'm also confident that the 4th played a part. jMO
Completely agree!!PossumJenkins said:
Two of my best friends own Spire…that would have been such a cool win for Corey, Spire and even the sport.
Just finished this from @kylepetty. I've actually read it twice already. So great. Honest, funny, heartfelt. 100% Kyle. Drops August 9. pic.twitter.com/aqRgcwyEqL
— Ryan McGee (@ESPNMcGee) July 12, 2022
.@23XIRacing has signed @TylerReddick from the 2024 season in a shocking move revealed today during lunchtime hours.
— Adam Stern (@A_S12) July 12, 2022
🔲 @RCRracing responded by saying in part that the timing of the announcement "could not be any worse." pic.twitter.com/qGdOC6keBm