***THIS IS NOT REAL...JUST A RENDERING OF HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE***

Seriously, how hard (and expensive) could this little design element have been to place brown turf down the base paths? As a purist, I know I would have liked it a lot more!

Pakbackr said:

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***THIS IS NOT REAL...JUST A RENDERING OF HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE***

Seriously, how hard (and expensive) could this little design element have been to place brown turf down the base paths? As a purist, I know I would have liked it a lot more!

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Great rendering. This would've been met with a lot less heartache.

Want 2 express my thanks 4 the 1st class experience traveling 2 Starkville with our football program last weekend ! Also, a Special Thanks 2 @JohnCohenAD, @Lemo22, @sfoxhall,@Rafael_Palmeiro & Lynn 4 the thorough tour of Dudy Noble 4 me & @BooCorrigan & @Fred_Demarest pic.twitter.com/MXp9yBkz0m

— Elliott Avent (@Elliott_Avent) September 16, 2021

Duke's baseball field ……

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Duke's baseball field ……

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Yep, I like the fake brown down the lines. Would break up the artifical green turf from the real thing.

If the turf in the base path was brown, wouldn't there then be a contrast in color between the brown turf and the other dirt of the infield, and wouldn't we then possibly complain about that? Do the MSU folks have any complaints or feedback about their green base paths, since that is what we copied? Is it possible that there is a functional reason that they didn't want a long seam between two different colors of turf and then the natural grass in that area due to the high traffic? I'm not an expert on turf in the slightest, but I did research it quite a bit when I was considering building a putting green in my backyard and I know sealing the seams together can be tough. Just me taking over here.

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No one asked me, but I am gonna raise my hand and say if there is no dirt on the 1st and 3rd base paths, that is a huge idiotic mistake!

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Agree… the more I see, the more I view this as a downgrade instead of an upgrade. Field looks like a patchwork quilt pieced together over time.

Amen to that

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Pakbackr said:

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No one asked me, but I am gonna raise my hand and say if there is no dirt on the 1st and 3rd base paths, that is a huge idiotic mistake!

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Agree… the more I see, the more I view this as a downgrade instead of an upgrade. Field looks like a patchwork quilt pieced together over time.

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My sister in law is an avid quilter. I told her what you said then showed her a pic of the mess. She said "I've never turned out anything that bad before".

JC how have we looked at practices?

Cotten said:

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Pakbackr said:

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No one asked me, but I am gonna raise my hand and say if there is no dirt on the 1st and 3rd base paths, that is a huge idiotic mistake!

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Agree… the more I see, the more I view this as a downgrade instead of an upgrade. Field looks like a patchwork quilt pieced together over time.

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Well, to again play devil's advocate, the purpose of redoing the field wasn't about the looks, it was about functionality. So if what they've done drains better, is easier to maintain, more consistent, etc. then it is still an upgrade, regardless of how people feel about the aesthetics. The turf can be changed relatively easily one would think, if the powers that be decide they don't like how the finished product (which we still haven't seen IMO) looks. The work that they did under the surface is the important part.

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Cotten said:

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Pakbackr said:

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No one asked me, but I am gonna raise my hand and say if there is no dirt on the 1st and 3rd base paths, that is a huge idiotic mistake!

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Agree… the more I see, the more I view this as a downgrade instead of an upgrade. Field looks like a patchwork quilt pieced together over time.

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Well, to again play devil's advocate, the purpose of redoing the field wasn't about the looks, it was about functionality. So if what they've done drains better, is easier to maintain, more consistent, etc. then it is still an upgrade, regardless of how people feel about the aesthetics. The turf can be changed relatively easily one would think, if the powers that be decide they don't like how the finished product (which we still haven't seen IMO) looks. The work that they did under the surface is the important part.

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Agreed

wilmwolf80 said:

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If the turf in the base path was brown, wouldn't there then be a contrast in color between the brown turf and the other dirt of the infield, and wouldn't we then possibly complain about that? Do the MSU folks have any complaints or feedback about their green base paths, since that is what we copied? Is it possible that there is a functional reason that they didn't want a long seam between two different colors of turf and then the natural grass in that area due to the high traffic? I'm not an expert on turf in the slightest, but I did research it quite a bit when I was considering building a putting green in my backyard and I know sealing the seams together can be tough. Just me taking over here.

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Likely so on the dirt looks being different, but that pic of Dukes field looks more natural to me than an all green turf look. It's just an opinion. Its not changing anyone's love of the game or the Pack9. I also don't like the look of the MSU field infield turf wise either, so there's that. I'm old school, but get the need to save money in maintenace in the long run. I love the mlb DH now, so I can adapt lol

Are the plans to begin finishing the renovations immediately after the season ends?

Look good

gopack1979 said:

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I was really disappointed with the field until I talked to my guy. here's the cliff notes.

• This is not the turf your kids play soccer on, it's got cork and olive pits as the base to keep it cooler, the batters boxes are tear out and easily replaced.
• The players and recruits want this- the surface is true, it provides a better footing, catchers love this, kids are playing on turf more and more today and this is similar to what they play on(only better). When a recruit comes the surface is game ready. You might not think this is a big deal but it is.
• The dirt is new, this is exactly what 95% of the clay the MLB teams have. Super big deal and will help in footing, when we have any kind of rain and keeping things clean because there's no dust.
• Give this time, the greens will never match exactly but it will look better.
• We're not alone- FSU, Coastal, Miss State and many others are doing this

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Thanks! Good stuff.

Yup

gopack1979 said:

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I was really disappointed with the field until I talked to my guy. here's the cliff notes.

• This is not the turf your kids play soccer on, it's got cork and olive pits as the base to keep it cooler, the batters boxes are tear out and easily replaced.
• The players and recruits want this- the surface is true, it provides a better footing, catchers love this, kids are playing on turf more and more today and this is similar to what they play on(only better). When a recruit comes the surface is game ready. You might not think this is a big deal but it is.
• The dirt is new, this is exactly what 95% of the clay the MLB teams have. Super big deal and will help in footing, when we have any kind of rain and keeping things clean because there's no dust.
• Give this time, the greens will never match exactly but it will look better.
• We're not alone- FSU, Coastal, Miss State and many others are doing this

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Appreciate the info here. Obviously I've been outspoken on this, but I'll learn to deal with. (mainly because I have no other choice!!)

Speaking as a former player and now coach, the only thing you hate about the turf is not being allowed to spit seeds out on it. At least that is the case on every turf field I've been on recently.


As for the look...I get the need for the turf in foul ground. I just wish the mounds and batter's circle could stay dirt.

Doesn't look good at all to me but if coaches and players want it, so be it

Tom Werme sounded like he was gonna stroke out for a second there. Yeah, I won't miss White, but home runs are cool.

That brings back bad memories of how we should have been in the NCAA's last year.

Don't know what you all are talking about what a catch by Soles2 vs Miami in RF

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Screw Tommy but that game was electric.

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Wonder how long he will last at 3rd base for LSU?

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FlockaWolf said:

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Screw Tommy but that game was electric.

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Wonder how long he will last at 3rd base for LSU?

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He'll be exclusively DH before conference play starts. Hope he sucks tbh.

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That's my thinking also. And if and when that happens he will look to transfer again lol. I wish him nothing but the best but he's just not a 3rd baseman. He's a DH and always will be

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FlockaWolf said:

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Screw Tommy but that game was electric.

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Wonder how long he will last at 3rd base for LSU?

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He'll be exclusively DH before conference play starts. Hope he sucks tbh.

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I doubt it. He's no worse than last year's 3B at LSU, first round pick Jacob Berry. As long as dude is mashing the ball (which he'll do) they'll keep trotting him out to 3rd, IMO. Berry mixed in a few starts at the corner OF spots but they let him boot it around the infield b/c his offense was that good. I imagine they'll do the same with Tommy.

What's a coach to do when they get thrown out a game and can't kick dirt over home plate?

Looks to me like they've rolled or raked the turf which has flattened out the blades and gotten rid of the harsher color differences between the pieces from the grain direction. Kinda like I said would happen. Once the grass greens up there will be much less contrast between it and the turf as well.