How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Generally agree but we showed we can buck those behaviors with the basketball program this offseason.Nairo said:
Three undeniable facts concerning NC State:
1) We are never proactive and always late to adapt
2) We will always do things on the cheap
3) Bureaucracy will somehow rear its ugly head
I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Ncstatefan01 said:how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
In general, people who don't want to be in direct sunlight should avoid activities that put them in direct sunlight, if possible.Pakbackr said:Ncstatefan01 said:how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Don't be a jerk. Sunscreen doesn't help with the intense heat of sitting in direct sun. Plus remember, you have a high percentage of fans who are older and more susceptible to heat stroke and skin cancers. If you haven't had skin cancer (I have), you might not understand the concern many of us have.
StateFan2001 said:
It's like 60 degrees for half the games.
Yep, that leaves half that are hotter, and the ones late in the season can be absolutely brutal...what is your point? I'm just saying - go look at all SEC and ACC stadiums and the overwhelming majority have some sort of cover of structure that provides some shade. While you are at it, go look at ECU's stadium as well as Coastal Carolina's. Yes, there are games when a cover wouldn't matter, but on those days when it is sunny and brutally hot, it matters!StateFan2001 said:
It's like 60 degrees for half the games.
That is the idea! Can't help yourself, can you?Ncstatefan01 said:In general, people who don't want to be in direct sunlight should avoid activities that put them in direct sunlight, if possible.Pakbackr said:Ncstatefan01 said:how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Don't be a jerk. Sunscreen doesn't help with the intense heat of sitting in direct sun. Plus remember, you have a high percentage of fans who are older and more susceptible to heat stroke and skin cancers. If you haven't had skin cancer (I have), you might not understand the concern many of us have.
If I did not want to sit in direct sunlight, I would probably not attend NC State baseball games, or other events that force me to sit in direct sunlight.Pakbackr said:That is the idea! Can't help yourself, can you?Ncstatefan01 said:In general, people who don't want to be in direct sunlight should avoid activities that put them in direct sunlight, if possible.Pakbackr said:Ncstatefan01 said:how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Don't be a jerk. Sunscreen doesn't help with the intense heat of sitting in direct sun. Plus remember, you have a high percentage of fans who are older and more susceptible to heat stroke and skin cancers. If you haven't had skin cancer (I have), you might not understand the concern many of us have.
There were like 2 games this season (and most seasons) that were even remotely warm. We don't need shade.Pakbackr said:Yep, that leaves half that are hotter, and the ones late in the season can be absolutely brutal...what is your point? I'm just saying - go look at all SEC and ACC stadiums and the overwhelming majority have some sort of cover of structure that provides some shade. While you are at it, go look at ECU's stadium as well as Coastal Carolina's. Yes, there are games when a cover wouldn't matter, but on those days when it is sunny and brutally hot, it matters!StateFan2001 said:
It's like 60 degrees for half the games.
Whether you give a crap about people who have skin sensitivities of not is not so much the issue here. Want to remain being considered one of the worst stadiums in the ACC, then do nothing and leave Doak to look and function like a glorified high school stadium. But if you want to appeal to a broader section of fans and look like a real legit major college stadium, this is a problem that cannot be ignore indefinitely!
Ncstatefan01 said:If I did not want to sit in direct sunlight, I would probably not attend NC State baseball games, or other events that force me to sit in direct sunlight.Pakbackr said:That is the idea! Can't help yourself, can you?Ncstatefan01 said:In general, people who don't want to be in direct sunlight should avoid activities that put them in direct sunlight, if possible.Pakbackr said:Ncstatefan01 said:how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Don't be a jerk. Sunscreen doesn't help with the intense heat of sitting in direct sun. Plus remember, you have a high percentage of fans who are older and more susceptible to heat stroke and skin cancers. If you haven't had skin cancer (I have), you might not understand the concern many of us have.
I am about convinced this user is the same as 2001. He just uses this one to reply to make it seem like he has someone that actually agrees with him.Riddickulous said:Ncstatefan01 said:If I did not want to sit in direct sunlight, I would probably not attend NC State baseball games, or other events that force me to sit in direct sunlight.Pakbackr said:That is the idea! Can't help yourself, can you?Ncstatefan01 said:In general, people who don't want to be in direct sunlight should avoid activities that put them in direct sunlight, if possible.Pakbackr said:Ncstatefan01 said:how about sunscreen?I40Wolf said:I just want some relief from the sun.StateFan2001 said:How many baseball games are played each year in even above 85 degree temps? Not many at all. Just seems far more pressing needs than a cover for seating. There are plenty of college baseball stadiums that don't have covered seating. In fact, most I can think of do not.Jtilley said:
There's no coverage for when it pours rain or it's 100 degrees out. Each their own but you just rarely see a field above high school without a grandstand.
Don't be a jerk. Sunscreen doesn't help with the intense heat of sitting in direct sun. Plus remember, you have a high percentage of fans who are older and more susceptible to heat stroke and skin cancers. If you haven't had skin cancer (I have), you might not understand the concern many of us have.
The point is those things shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Good Lord, dude.
wilmwolf said:
I think everyone agrees that ideally there would be some shaded seating. I just don't think it's as integral to this project as some. I've never personally gone to an outdoor sporting event with the expectation that I would be sitting in the shade, but everyone's experiences are different. Obviously some folks have medical concerns, and that sucks. Cancer sucks. Anyone dealing with that has my prayers. Sometimes we have to weigh the cost versus the benefits for things in life, and if that's the cost for watching a baseball game, I would probably choose to do something else with my time, but that's just my perspective. I personally have multiple deadly allergies, not comparing that to what others are going through in any way, but I don't take for granted that places I'm going to can always accommodate those so I make adjustments to my plans and take precautions as necessary. According to those that planned these renovations, covered seating was explored, but was not deemed to be possible within the confines of the current structure, so we have to take them at their word, and understand that it's simply not going to happen.
I'd be happy if shade was provided along the concourse.wilmwolf said:
I think everyone agrees that ideally there would be some shaded seating. I just don't think it's as integral to this project as some. I've never personally gone to an outdoor sporting event with the expectation that I would be sitting in the shade, but everyone's experiences are different. Obviously some folks have medical concerns, and that sucks. Cancer sucks. Anyone dealing with that has my prayers. Sometimes we have to weigh the cost versus the benefits for things in life, and if that's the cost for watching a baseball game, I would probably choose to do something else with my time, but that's just my perspective. I personally have multiple deadly allergies, not comparing that to what others are going through in any way, but I don't take for granted that places I'm going to can always accommodate those so I make adjustments to my plans and take precautions as necessary. According to those that planned these renovations, covered seating was explored, but was not deemed to be possible within the confines of the current structure, so we have to take them at their word, and understand that it's simply not going to happen.
ChemE94 said:
Good Lord yall, we are arguing about shade when we should be talking about blowing it all up and building something new. Even post changes, the doak will be maybe the 5th best baseball stadium in the state and in the bottom 3 or 4 in the acc (and 5th best in the state is excluding a couple high school stadiums that are better).
