No reason given but according to the court docket, the 23XI/Front Row case vs NASCAR has been reassigned to judge Kenneth D. Bell. Judge Frank D. Whitney, who issued the initial preliminary injunction ruling, is no longer assigned to the case.
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) December 11, 2024
I need to go one day. There are a lot of haulers, that folks never see on tv. Heck, Champion has God knows how many?ge_traveler said:
That's interesting, never thought about what they would do with the haulers. Bowman Gray is a dang neat place to watch a race. If you've never been to a weekly race there, check one out next year. Excellent racing and fans are wild.
Haulers to bring the cars. Haulers to bring pit boxes. Haulers for souvenir row.ncsupack1 said:I need to go one day. There are a lot of haulers, that folks never see on tv. Heck, Champion has God knows how many?ge_traveler said:
That's interesting, never thought about what they would do with the haulers. Bowman Gray is a dang neat place to watch a race. If you've never been to a weekly race there, check one out next year. Excellent racing and fans are wild.
Don't forget Goodyear, and Sunoco as well. lolGlasswolf said:Haulers to bring the cars. Haulers to bring pit boxes. Haulers for souvenir row.ncsupack1 said:I need to go one day. There are a lot of haulers, that folks never see on tv. Heck, Champion has God knows how many?ge_traveler said:
That's interesting, never thought about what they would do with the haulers. Bowman Gray is a dang neat place to watch a race. If you've never been to a weekly race there, check one out next year. Excellent racing and fans are wild.
.@RickWareRacing today is announcing that it'll put Tim Brown, the all-time most winning driver in Bowman Gray history, into its No. 15 Ford for the NASCAR season-opening Clash exhibition in February.
— Adam Stern (@A_S12) December 17, 2024
🔲 It'll be a Cup debut for the modified driver, who has 101 wins at Bowman. pic.twitter.com/KnlzZpLmck
U.S. District Court Judge Kenneth Bell revealed in his filing today granting 23XI and Front Row a preliminary injunction for 2025 that "driver Bubba Wallace informed 23XI that he needs to know how it intends to compete 'immediately' so that he can explore seats with other
— Adam Stern (@A_S12) December 18, 2024
teams." pic.twitter.com/NT0oxAXEX6
— NASCAR (@NASCAR) December 18, 2024
He was my mothers favorite driver..ncsupack1 said:— NASCAR (@NASCAR) December 18, 2024
ncsupack1 said:— NASCAR (@NASCAR) December 18, 2024
The prep work is fully underway... #NASCARClash pic.twitter.com/v8XL00lLga
— Bowman Gray Stadium (@BGSRacing) December 19, 2024
TheStorm said:
I hate to be the one to say it, but that "race" is going to suck. Clash at the Coliseum again, just at a different venue.
David Pearson would have been 90 today #RIP #TheSilverFox 🏁 #NASCARLegend pic.twitter.com/ixqhRi6cw0
— NASCAR Legends (@LegendsNascar) December 22, 2024
ncsupack1 said:TheStorm said:
I hate to be the one to say it, but that "race" is going to suck. Clash at the Coliseum again, just at a different venue.
I agree. I don't think the actual racing will be all that exciting.
You make some really good points, two completely different style of racing. I wasn't a big fan of the Clash in LA, and this seems like the same thing just a different track. But, at the end of the day, it's a none points race.ge_traveler said:ncsupack1 said:TheStorm said:
I hate to be the one to say it, but that "race" is going to suck. Clash at the Coliseum again, just at a different venue.
I agree. I don't think the actual racing will be all that exciting.
I don't either. I've been there for some weekly races, it's one of the best experiences you could have. Between the fans and the battling on the track, it's a great atmosphere.
However, the type of racing you see during the weekly races doesn't translate to the Cup level. There is wreck after wreck and the fans go wild as their favorite plows into the side of his rival and tears the bumper off. Just not going to see that emotion during the Clash, only the wrecks.
Mostly will be a game of "Follow the Leader".ncsupack1 said:You some really good points, two completely different style of racing. I wasn't a big fan of the Clash in LA, and this seems like the same thing just a different track. But, at the end of the day, it's a none points race.ge_traveler said:ncsupack1 said:TheStorm said:
I hate to be the one to say it, but that "race" is going to suck. Clash at the Coliseum again, just at a different venue.
I agree. I don't think the actual racing will be all that exciting.
I don't either. I've been there for some weekly races, it's one of the best experiences you could have. Between the fans and the battling on the track, it's a great atmosphere.
However, the type of racing you see during the weekly races doesn't translate to the Cup level. There is wreck after wreck and the fans go wild as their favorite plows into the side of his rival and tears the bumper off. Just not going to see that emotion during the Clash, only the wrecks.
Very tight, about the only " passing line " will be the corners, at best.TheStorm said:Mostly will be a game of "Follow the Leader".ncsupack1 said:You some really good points, two completely different style of racing. I wasn't a big fan of the Clash in LA, and this seems like the same thing just a different track. But, at the end of the day, it's a none points race.ge_traveler said:ncsupack1 said:TheStorm said:
I hate to be the one to say it, but that "race" is going to suck. Clash at the Coliseum again, just at a different venue.
I agree. I don't think the actual racing will be all that exciting.
I don't either. I've been there for some weekly races, it's one of the best experiences you could have. Between the fans and the battling on the track, it's a great atmosphere.
However, the type of racing you see during the weekly races doesn't translate to the Cup level. There is wreck after wreck and the fans go wild as their favorite plows into the side of his rival and tears the bumper off. Just not going to see that emotion during the Clash, only the wrecks.
I was shocked when I saw those pictures you posted showing how skinny those straightaways and corner entries were...
Those are some cool pics. Not much room at all.ge_traveler said:
It's definitely tight around there. Here are some pictures from a couple of different races last year, from different viewing points. You notice the red and white guardrail has been removed and the safer barrier has been installed, as seen in the post above.
Expect today in 23XI/FRM-NASCAR case:
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) December 23, 2024
-teams respond to NASCAR motion to delay enforcement on portion of injunction requiring NASCAR approve SHR charter transfers
-ruling on motion
-possible appeal of ruling to US Court of Appeals
-NASCAR also has filing due on motion to dismiss
Steve O'Donnell on playoff changes: "We’ll look at different ideas, and if we can make tweaks to enhance it we certainly will do that, but we’re not going to do it unless we feel like it’s in the best interest of the sport and really drives even more engagement from our fans." pic.twitter.com/SHLK8Cpakq
— Adam Stern (@A_S12) December 23, 2024
I really believe this will be a fun race. Looking at those photos made me go look and see what is happening at Southern National. I miss going there. I never did make it to Wake County this year.ncsupack1 said:Those are some cool pics. Not much room at all.ge_traveler said:
It's definitely tight around there. Here are some pictures from a couple of different races last year, from different viewing points. You notice the red and white guardrail has been removed and the safer barrier has been installed, as seen in the post above.
Not sure where you live, but you need to make a race at Wake County, Charlie and Mr. Brown have done a great job of cleaning the place up, I wanna say they are currently putting in a digital scoring board.Glasswolf said:I really believe this will be a fun race. Looking at those photos made me go look and see what is happening at Southern National. I miss going there. I never did make it to Wake County this year.ncsupack1 said:Those are some cool pics. Not much room at all.ge_traveler said:
It's definitely tight around there. Here are some pictures from a couple of different races last year, from different viewing points. You notice the red and white guardrail has been removed and the safer barrier has been installed, as seen in the post above.
I live up near Wake Forest. WCS is an easy drive I just always forget. SNS seems to have a limited special event calendar from checking out their website. Last time I went there they were running what was called the Hooters Cup Series. There were some really good Late Model racing back thenncsupack1 said:Not sure where you live, but you need to make a race at Wake County, Charlie and Mr. Brown have done a great job of cleaning the place up, I wanna say they are currently putting in a digital scoring board.Glasswolf said:I really believe this will be a fun race. Looking at those photos made me go look and see what is happening at Southern National. I miss going there. I never did make it to Wake County this year.ncsupack1 said:Those are some cool pics. Not much room at all.ge_traveler said:
It's definitely tight around there. Here are some pictures from a couple of different races last year, from different viewing points. You notice the red and white guardrail has been removed and the safer barrier has been installed, as seen in the post above.
So it has been a minute. Agree about SNS having a limited event. We love WCS, and hardly ever miss a Friday night there. You should make a trip down this way.Glasswolf said:I live up near Wake Forest. WCS is an easy drive I just always forget. SNS seems to have a limited special event calendar from checking out their website. Last time I went there they were running what was called the Hooters Cup Series. There were some really good Late Model racing back thenncsupack1 said:Not sure where you live, but you need to make a race at Wake County, Charlie and Mr. Brown have done a great job of cleaning the place up, I wanna say they are currently putting in a digital scoring board.Glasswolf said:I really believe this will be a fun race. Looking at those photos made me go look and see what is happening at Southern National. I miss going there. I never did make it to Wake County this year.ncsupack1 said:Those are some cool pics. Not much room at all.ge_traveler said:
It's definitely tight around there. Here are some pictures from a couple of different races last year, from different viewing points. You notice the red and white guardrail has been removed and the safer barrier has been installed, as seen in the post above.
ge_traveler said:
Y'all are correct regarding Southern National. They still have races there but the schedule has tapered off the last few years to only a handful of events. The Thanksgiving Classic is still a big event and they've hosted a few Cars Tour late model events. But, the seasonal racing has basically dwindled to nothing.
Wake County is always fun.
Another good venue is New River All American in Jacksonville. I know it's a few hours for you guys but some good racing. The Cars Tour will be back there in March. That's always a good race.
ncsupack1 said:ge_traveler said:
Y'all are correct regarding Southern National. They still have races there but the schedule has tapered off the last few years to only a handful of events. The Thanksgiving Classic is still a big event and they've hosted a few Cars Tour late model events. But, the seasonal racing has basically dwindled to nothing.
Wake County is always fun.
Another good venue is New River All American in Jacksonville. I know it's a few hours for you guys but some good racing. The Cars Tour will be back there in March. That's always a good race.
Now that you mention it, I forgot about the Cars Tour running at SNS. Do you know if it's car count or is it a promotion thing with SNS?
Interesting.WarrenPeace said:ncsupack1 said:ge_traveler said:
Y'all are correct regarding Southern National. They still have races there but the schedule has tapered off the last few years to only a handful of events. The Thanksgiving Classic is still a big event and they've hosted a few Cars Tour late model events. But, the seasonal racing has basically dwindled to nothing.
Wake County is always fun.
Another good venue is New River All American in Jacksonville. I know it's a few hours for you guys but some good racing. The Cars Tour will be back there in March. That's always a good race.
Now that you mention it, I forgot about the Cars Tour running at SNS. Do you know if it's car count or is it a promotion thing with SNS?
Ownership. Dude puts it out there that he's trying so hard to get racers to come but the bottom line is he's just an ass and people don't like going there.
