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Can't readily find the quote right now, but prior to the nascar announcement, Hamlin observed, "there's about $2MM difference between 32nd in points to 16th in points, so any fine for Dillon less than $2MM says the move was worth it financially". He ain't wrong.

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Considering he's still listed as in 25th place in the points it doesn't matter

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Yep. So, "technically" he is still the race winner, but he does not make the playoffs unless he makes it on points (Top 16), or wins another race between now and "The Chase".

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Can't readily find the quote right now, but prior to the nascar announcement, Hamlin observed, "there's about $2MM difference between 32nd in points to 16th in points, so any fine for Dillon less than $2MM says the move was worth it financially". He ain't wrong.

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Considering he's still listed as in 25th place in the points it doesn't matter

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Yep. So, "technically" he is still the race winner, but he does not make the playoffs unless he makes it on points (Top 16), or wins another race between now and "The Chase".

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Correct

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TheStorm said:

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GetOffMyLawnPack said:

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Can't readily find the quote right now, but prior to the nascar announcement, Hamlin observed, "there's about $2MM difference between 32nd in points to 16th in points, so any fine for Dillon less than $2MM says the move was worth it financially". He ain't wrong.

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Considering he's still listed as in 25th place in the points it doesn't matter

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Yep. So, "technically" he is still the race winner, but he does not make the playoffs unless he makes it on points (Top 16), or wins another race between now and "The Chase".

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Correct

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When are you coming back down here again, ncsu?

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TheStorm said:

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Glasswolf said:

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GetOffMyLawnPack said:

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Can't readily find the quote right now, but prior to the nascar announcement, Hamlin observed, "there's about $2MM difference between 32nd in points to 16th in points, so any fine for Dillon less than $2MM says the move was worth it financially". He ain't wrong.

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Considering he's still listed as in 25th place in the points it doesn't matter

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Yep. So, "technically" he is still the race winner, but he does not make the playoffs unless he makes it on points (Top 16), or wins another race between now and "The Chase".

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Correct

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When are you coming back down here again, ncsu?

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Good question? My guess is maybe late fall.

Glasswolf said:

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GetOffMyLawnPack said:

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Can't readily find the quote right now, but prior to the nascar announcement, Hamlin observed, "there's about $2MM difference between 32nd in points to 16th in points, so any fine for Dillon less than $2MM says the move was worth it financially". He ain't wrong.

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Considering he's still listed as in 25th place in the points it doesn't matter

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If Dillon would have been allowed into the playoffs, the worst he could have finished was 16th. Pay attention.

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GetOffMyLawnPack said:

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Can't readily find the quote right now, but prior to the nascar announcement, Hamlin observed, "there's about $2MM difference between 32nd in points to 16th in points, so any fine for Dillon less than $2MM says the move was worth it financially". He ain't wrong.

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Considering he's still listed as in 25th place in the points it doesn't matter

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If Dillon would have been allowed into the playoffs, the worst he could have finished was 16th. Pay attention.

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Bingo

As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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I wouldn't worry about that. This sport will continue to be a contact sport.

.@RFKRacing is being tipped as the likely landing spot for @Kroger’s NASCAR sponsorship next year, per people familiar, a pickup that would represent a major commercial boost for the team co-owned by Fenway Sports Group. https://t.co/ZjMUGEZFdc

— Adam Stern (@A_S12) August 15, 2024

By landing a sponsorship as sizable as @Kroger’s, some industry execs have wondered whether that could allow @RFKracing to expand to three cars.

🔲 @RyanPreece_ is the last Cup driver at fellow @Ford team SHR still trying to secure a ride for next year. https://t.co/ZjMUGEZFdc

— Adam Stern (@A_S12) August 15, 2024

This could be big. Hass is also announcing the Xfinity line up Saturday.

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caryking said:

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As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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I wouldn't worry about that. This sport will continue to be a contact sport.

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Says the former F1 driver. If it's a contact sport, then why the penalty?

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ncsupack1 said:

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caryking said:

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As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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I wouldn't worry about that. This sport will continue to be a contact sport.

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Says the former F1 driver. If it's a contact sport, then why the penalty?

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He right hooked a driver. NASCAR has benched the likes of Chase and Bubba for it. That is a move that just about every local short track takes the W away, ( CARS Tour owned by Harvick, Burton, Marks, and, JR). Is one example. I don't see folks complaining about it. This is the right call, I'll ask you this, do you have a problem with a championship driver plowing through the field and taking out the other 3 guys to win the championship?

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caryking said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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caryking said:

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As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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I wouldn't worry about that. This sport will continue to be a contact sport.

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Says the former F1 driver. If it's a contact sport, then why the penalty?

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He right hooked a driver. NASCAR has benched the likes of Chase and Bubba for it. That is a move that just about every local short track takes the W away, ( CARS Tour owned by Harvick, Burton, Marks, and, JR). Is one example. I don't see folks complaining about it. This is the right call, I'll ask you this, do you have a problem with a championship driver plowing through the field and taking out the other 3 guys to win the championship?

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Well, I continued to pull for Dale Sr when he took out Terry Labonte at Bristol…

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caryking said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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caryking said:

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As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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I wouldn't worry about that. This sport will continue to be a contact sport.

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Says the former F1 driver. If it's a contact sport, then why the penalty?

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He right hooked a driver. NASCAR has benched the likes of Chase and Bubba for it. That is a move that just about every local short track takes the W away, ( CARS Tour owned by Harvick, Burton, Marks, and, JR). Is one example. I don't see folks complaining about it. This is the right call, I'll ask you this, do you have a problem with a championship driver plowing through the field and taking out the other 3 guys to win the championship?

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Well, I continued to pull for Dale Sr when he took out Terry Labonte at Bristol…

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I get it. When I go to Martinsville here in a few weeks I bet folks are hitting and moving drivers all day. The penalty that happened with the 3 was to sent a message for the championship and keep the integrity of it. Plus the safety and consistency of punishing drivers for right hooking.

I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

NASCAR
NASCAR Xfinity Series
Cabo Wabo 250, Michigan International Speedway, Brooklyn, MI
Announcers: Rick Allen/Jeff Burton/Steve Letarte//Dave Burns//Parker Kilgerman//Marty Snider
Practice NBC Sports app, 3;30 p.m.
Qualifying NBC Sports app, 4:30 p.m.

Looks like NASCAR could be dodging some rain starting tomorrow.

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I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

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I would recommend listening to his podcast as a whole.

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caryking said:

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I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

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I would recommend listening to his podcast as a whole.

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My go to is DBC, Hamlin's, and The TearDown.

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Glasswolf said:

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I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

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I would recommend listening to his podcast as a whole.

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My go to is DBC, Hamlin's, and The TearDown.

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I've started to listen to his (Hamlin's) lately also. good stuff.

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Glasswolf said:

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caryking said:

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I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

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I would recommend listening to his podcast as a whole.

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My go to is DBC, Hamlin's, and The TearDown.

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I've started to listen to his (Hamlin's) lately also. good stuff.

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My view of Denny changed when I started to listen to him a few years ago.

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Glasswolf said:

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Glasswolf said:

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caryking said:

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I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

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I would recommend listening to his podcast as a whole.

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My go to is DBC, Hamlin's, and The TearDown.

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I've started to listen to his (Hamlin's) lately also. good stuff.

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My view of Denny changed when I started to listen to him a few years ago.

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Same here. I'd actually like to see him win the Championship someday.

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ncsupack1 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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caryking said:

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I recommend listening to Dale Jr's Reload segment on the ruling. He gives a great analysis of this.

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I would recommend listening to his podcast as a whole.

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My go to is DBC, Hamlin's, and The TearDown.

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I've started to listen to his (Hamlin's) lately also. good stuff.

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My view of Denny changed when I started to listen to him a few years ago.

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Same here. I'd actually like to see him win the Championship someday.

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Same

Sad news.

Rest in peace, Legend. pic.twitter.com/l761HdiG0X

— Dirty Mo Media (@DirtyMoMedia) August 16, 2024

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caryking said:

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caryking said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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caryking said:

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As much as I like F1, I hope this doesn't end up with a select group of people making decisions on whether a driver makes too many moves, when someone tries to pass…

Driver, in front, see driver, behind, make a move to the inside, then Driver in front, moves down to block. Driver in back, makes another move, to the other side. Driver in front isn't allowed to move again as it would be considered an illegal move. If driver in front moves again, then they are penalized 10 seconds, of track time.

Is that what we really want? Don't ever think a governing body want try to keep as much control as possible…

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I wouldn't worry about that. This sport will continue to be a contact sport.

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Says the former F1 driver. If it's a contact sport, then why the penalty?

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He right hooked a driver. NASCAR has benched the likes of Chase and Bubba for it. That is a move that just about every local short track takes the W away, ( CARS Tour owned by Harvick, Burton, Marks, and, JR). Is one example. I don't see folks complaining about it. This is the right call, I'll ask you this, do you have a problem with a championship driver plowing through the field and taking out the other 3 guys to win the championship?

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Well, I continued to pull for Dale Sr when he took out Terry Labonte at Bristol…

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I get it. When I go to Martinsville here in a few weeks I bet folks are hitting and moving drivers all day. The penalty that happened with the 3 was to sent a message for the championship and keep the integrity of it. Plus the safety and consistency of punishing drivers for right hooking.

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We covered this the night of…but…Dale sr was inches from terry's bumper at Bristol. In racing terms we call that being "there". The 3 was 3-4 car lengths back entering turn 3. He was not there. He simply held the throttle wide open. And that is ALL the difference.

As for DH. Not to get too personal. His takes on the sport are most often right. All of your guys previous feelings about him are right too. Haha…Karma always finds us all in different ways

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Sad news.

Rest in peace, Legend. pic.twitter.com/l761HdiG0X

— Dirty Mo Media (@DirtyMoMedia) August 16, 2024

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yup

Saturday, August 17

1:30 a.m., ARCA Menard Series: Henry Ford Health 200 at Michigan International Speedway (re-air), FS1
3:30 a.m., Kevin Harvick's Happy Hour: Richmond Recap (re-air), FS1
4:30 a.m., Kevin Harvick's Happy Hour (re-air), FS1
6 a.m., Kevin Harvick's Happy Hour (re-air), FS1
8:30 a.m., ARCA Menard Series: Henry Ford Health 200 at Michigan International Speedway (re-air), FS2
12:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Practice and Qualifying at Michigan International Speedway, USA
2:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Victory Lane Review, USA
3 p.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series: Countdown to Green, USA
3:30 p.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series: Cabo Wabo 250 at Michigan International Speedway, USA
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at Jennerstown Speedway, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at Riverhead Raceway, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Canada Series at Delaware Speedway, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at South Boston Speedway, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at Florence Motor Speedway, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at Bowman Gray Stadium, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at Langley Speedway, FloRacing
TBA, NASCAR Weekly Racing at Berlin Raceway, FloRacing

NASCAR
NASCAR Cup Series
FireKeepers Casino 400, Michigan International Speedway, Brooklyn, MI
Announcers: Rick Allen/Jeff Burton/Steve Letarte//Dave Burns/Parker Kligerman//Marty Snider
Qualifying USA Network, 12:30 p.m.
NASCAR Cup Series: Victory Lane Review: Richmond USA Network, 2:30 p.m.

NASCAR Xfinity Series
Cabo Wabo 250, Michigan International Speedway, Brooklyn, MI
Announcers: Rick Allen/Jeff Burton/Steve Letarte//Dave Burns//Parker Kilgerman//Marty Snider
Race USA Network, 3;30 p.m.
NASCAR Cup Series: Victory Lane Review: Richmond USA Network, 2:30 p.m.

NASCAR Xfinity Series
Cabo Wabo 250, Michigan International Speedway, Brooklyn, MI
Announcers: Rick Allen/Jeff Burton/Steve Letarte//Dave Burns//Parker Kilgerman//Marty Snider
Race USA Network, 3;30 p.m.

930 Saturday morning
espnradio/SEC Network
Austin Dillion

#MartyandMcGee back in the Wilderness Lodge Saturday 7-10am @SECNetwork + @ESPNRadio
(I can hear the eruption of raucous applause)
*Fathers, sons and football. The @Lane_Kiffin interview
*9a: @WVUfootball head coach @NealBrown_WVU
*930a: @NASCAR's @austindillon3
*Other stuff

#MartyandMcGee back in the Wilderness Lodge Saturday 7-10am @SECNetwork + @ESPNRadio
(I can hear the eruption of raucous applause)
*Fathers, sons and football. The @Lane_Kiffin interview
*9a: @WVUfootball head coach @NealBrown_WVU
*930a: @NASCAR's @austindillon3
*Other stuff pic.twitter.com/6xOBn7nez8

— Marty Smith (@MartySmithESPN) August 16, 2024

NEWS: The roster is set!

Haas Factory Team announces @sheldoncreed and @sam_mayer_ will drive for the organization in 2025!

— NASCAR Xfinity (@NASCAR_Xfinity) August 17, 2024

Denny's hit on the wall was 32g. Highest recorded.

Dang rain.

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Denny's hit on the wall was 32g. Highest recorded.

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Was this during practice or Qualifying?

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Denny's hit on the wall was 32g. Highest recorded.

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Was this during practice or Qualifying?

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Yes. Looks like Xfinity is going to get it in.