I am an Alien from Mars..... I can call myself anything I want. Hell, Liz "Look at me Now" Cheney is a Republican.jadawson said:I mean the implication in these threads is that its the democrats doing the manipulating. How exactly do they pull it off in Maricopa county? The governer who passed new election laws in 2021 is Republican. 4 of the 5 members of the Maricopa County board of governors are republicans. The Arizona State house and senate both lean Republican.wolf howl said:You arbitrarily pulled .1% out of the air. There's 20% issue in Maricopa County Arizona right now. I think we can all agree that's a battle ground county and I called it weeks ago they'd have issues, in this thread.hokiewolf said:
Because believing that .1% is the problem that needs to be fixed and not the 99.9% is the problem with populism. Sowing distrust because of a perception and not a fact is dangerous.
Are there issues with how we run elections? Absolutely. They are terribly inefficient at vote counting, the rules have not been updated effectively in all states, and it's been shown in the 2020 election that in some states, money can be spent to enhance turnout that favors a particular party. Is that moral? No, is it illegal? Not until the states take up those issues and fixes them Does that mean there is widespread election fraud and cheating? Absolutely not.
I just don't agree with sullying and tearing apart American Institutions and Ideals because my party lost an election. That goes for both democrats and republicans by the way.
Why do the exact same counties that literally decide the election one way or the other ALWAYS have the same issue? Either there's gross incompetence or whomever is deciding who they want to win is manipulating a small handful of places. Cities with MUCH larger population do not have these issues if they are going either red or blue and it's not going to be close. Weird huh?
The two men in this link explaining the issue are both elected republicans
On top of that, people are still voting, the ballots just aren't being tabulated right now. The paper ballot is being dropped in secure boxes instead of going through the scanner. Which is what most Arizona counties do in the first place.
If the democrats are cheating in Maricopa County, how are they doing it in a county run by republicans, with voting rules set up by republicans, and having the issues explained away as nothing to worry about by elected Republicans?
If you want to say its incompetence i'm perfectly fine with that. Lord knows elected politicians know how to be incompetent.
What does that mean?
You are saying that without a shadow of a doubt, unquestioned, there is nothing fishy about a county or five that have significant "issues" every damn election?
And you are taking this on people's word?
Wow... just wow....
Coming from the party that did nothing but promote, investigate and make accusations for over 6 years about nothing but BS????
Come on man..... be better.
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