NASCAR 2024 (2024 - 2025 Off Season)

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Wolfer79
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@FoxTV got a 1.55 rating and 3.08 million viewers for Sunday's @CookOut Clash, up from last year at L.A. Coliseum that was moved to a Saturday on FS1, but off from the first two runnings there in '22 and '23.

The race was the No. 2 sports event of the week after @PGATour.


ncsupack1
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Not bad, considering that FOX practically didn't promote it.
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Winston-Salem city manager Patrick Pate: "Winston-Salem was mentioned on national TV so many times [during the @CookOut Clash last weekend]. We can't count how much that would cost if we were trying to put those ads out there ourselves."

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ncsupack1 said:

Not bad, considering that FOX practically didn't promote it.
Man, if it doesn't eventually go back to Daytona - I'd love to see them do Rockingham next...
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TheStorm said:

ncsupack1 said:

Not bad, considering that FOX practically didn't promote it.
Man, if it doesn't eventually go back to Daytona - I'd love to see them do Rockingham next...


Now that would be cool.
TheStorm
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ncsupack1 said:

TheStorm said:

ncsupack1 said:

Not bad, considering that FOX practically didn't promote it.
Man, if it doesn't eventually go back to Daytona - I'd love to see them do Rockingham next...


Now that would be cool.
Or even the All-Star Race given its proximity to Charlotte.
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TheStorm said:

ncsupack1 said:

TheStorm said:

ncsupack1 said:

Not bad, considering that FOX practically didn't promote it.
Man, if it doesn't eventually go back to Daytona - I'd love to see them do Rockingham next...


Now that would be cool.
Or even the All-Star Race given its proximity to Charlotte.


I like the rotation thing. I've heard and read that Brazil could host the Clash next year. I'm not a fan.
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I do like how they have reintroduced North Wilkesboro, but maybe have the Clash at NW and the All-Star race at Rockingham....get them both involved going fwd.
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ge_traveler said:

I do like how they have reintroduced North Wilkesboro, but maybe have the Clash at NW and the All-Star race at Rockingham....get them both involved going fwd.


I like that idea.
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ncsupack1 said:

ge_traveler said:

I do like how they have reintroduced North Wilkesboro, but maybe have the Clash at NW and the All-Star race at Rockingham....get them both involved going fwd.


I like that idea.
At least maybe switch them back and forth. Both would be competitive races IMHO.
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Glasswolf said:

ncsupack1 said:

ge_traveler said:

I do like how they have reintroduced North Wilkesboro, but maybe have the Clash at NW and the All-Star race at Rockingham....get them both involved going fwd.


I like that idea.
At least maybe switch them back and forth. Both would be competitive races IMHO.


I believe so too.
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I think as many races as they can return to the area of roots that NASCAR came from the better. People will come, and not just local race fans.
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hokiewolf said:

I think as many races as they can return to the area of roots that NASCAR came from the better. People will come, and not just local race fans.
One would hope. My fear though is that once the new is gone folks won't show up. The Rock tried this a few years ago, and fans stopped going after year 3. Yes, this wasn't CUP, but the fear is there. I know SMI, has discussed this about NWS, fan attendance was down this past All Star race.
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ncsupack1 said:

hokiewolf said:

I think as many races as they can return to the area of roots that NASCAR came from the better. People will come, and not just local race fans.
One would hope. My fear though is that once the new is gone folks won't show up. The Rock tried this a few years ago, and fans stopped going after year 3. Yes, this wasn't CUP, but the fear is there. I know SMI, has discussed this about NWS, fan attendance was down this past All Star race.
got to shorten the races.
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hokiewolf said:

ncsupack1 said:

hokiewolf said:

I think as many races as they can return to the area of roots that NASCAR came from the better. People will come, and not just local race fans.
One would hope. My fear though is that once the new is gone folks won't show up. The Rock tried this a few years ago, and fans stopped going after year 3. Yes, this wasn't CUP, but the fear is there. I know SMI, has discussed this about NWS, fan attendance was down this past All Star race.
got to shorten the races.
They have for a lot of races. I don't know how you keep fans coming back for years on end. We are season ticket holders at Charlotte, and this is brought up a lot. Year 1 and 2 great, then the drop off. Heck, NWS had brought in extra seating year one for the All Star race, this year, campers were there. BTW, I'm all for shortening the races.
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The main problem with Rockingham years ago was the placement of the "spring" race in the schedule. The fall race was usually in November and that race was always good. But, in the early 2000's, NASCAR was trying to expand into other states and Texas got one of the Rockingham slots.....the fall race. That was pretty much the dagger for The Rock. Had they taken the February race instead of the November race, there may have been a chance for survival. But, they were after the money and went after the fall race first, knowing the spring race was already tough on fans.

The "spring" race was tough because it was always the weekend after the Daytona 500. Following Daytona was tough, as a lot of fans had gone to Daytona for speedweek and blown through their money already. The second reason it didn't do well was because it was usually so damn cold. There were some races where we froze our butts off. With the attendance dwindling, it was just a matter of time. The powers-to-be (Bruton Smith) knew this and used it as leverage to move the races to other tracks that he owned and could get better attendance. Like everything, it's always about the money.

The races at The Rock were always good......the fans loved it and so did the drivers. I miss those races! We always camped across the road from the track for both races each year. Good times!
ncsupack1
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The spring date didn't help. Kinda like just not that long ago and Atlanta. They have moved that date to later and attendance has been pretty good.
ge_traveler
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ncsupack1 said:

The spring date didn't help. Kinda like just not that long ago and Atlanta. They have moved that date to later and attendance has been pretty good.


Exactly, where it falls within the season makes a huge difference.

It could be wishful thinking but I do feel like they are paying attention to the grassroots movement and maybe there is a possibility that the Cup series returns to Rockingham at some point. Attendance at the Xfinity and Truck races this year will determine a lot.
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ge_traveler said:

ncsupack1 said:

The spring date didn't help. Kinda like just not that long ago and Atlanta. They have moved that date to later and attendance has been pretty good.


Exactly, where it falls within the season makes a huge difference.

It could be wishful thinking but I do feel like they are paying attention to the grassroots movement and maybe there is a possibility that the Cup series returns to Rockingham at some point. Attendance at the Xfinity and Truck races this year will determine a lot.


You make good points, the only problem is that for a CUP points race, either NASCAR or SMI will have to give up a date of their own. I've heard that neither is open to that at the moment.
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ge_traveler said:

The main problem with Rockingham years ago was the placement of the "spring" race in the schedule. The fall race was usually in November and that race was always good. But, in the early 2000's, NASCAR was trying to expand into other states and Texas got one of the Rockingham slots.....the fall race. That was pretty much the dagger for The Rock. Had they taken the February race instead of the November race, there may have been a chance for survival. But, they were after the money and went after the fall race first, knowing the spring race was already tough on fans.

The "spring" race was tough because it was always the weekend after the Daytona 500. Following Daytona was tough, as a lot of fans had gone to Daytona for speedweek and blown through their money already. The second reason it didn't do well was because it was usually so damn cold. There were some races where we froze our butts off. With the attendance dwindling, it was just a matter of time. The powers-to-be (Bruton Smith) knew this and used it as leverage to move the races to other tracks that he owned and could get better attendance. Like everything, it's always about the money.

The races at The Rock were always good......the fans loved it and so did the drivers. I miss those races! We always camped across the road from the track for both races each year. Good times!
The order use to be Riverside, California, Daytona, Rockingham, Richmond. I have sat with my Dad at both Rockingham and Richmond while it was either sleeting or freezing rain begging for them to postpone the race lol.
I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em.


ncsupack1
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Dang.

TheStorm
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Glasswolf said:

ge_traveler said:

The main problem with Rockingham years ago was the placement of the "spring" race in the schedule. The fall race was usually in November and that race was always good. But, in the early 2000's, NASCAR was trying to expand into other states and Texas got one of the Rockingham slots.....the fall race. That was pretty much the dagger for The Rock. Had they taken the February race instead of the November race, there may have been a chance for survival. But, they were after the money and went after the fall race first, knowing the spring race was already tough on fans.

The "spring" race was tough because it was always the weekend after the Daytona 500. Following Daytona was tough, as a lot of fans had gone to Daytona for speedweek and blown through their money already. The second reason it didn't do well was because it was usually so damn cold. There were some races where we froze our butts off. With the attendance dwindling, it was just a matter of time. The powers-to-be (Bruton Smith) knew this and used it as leverage to move the races to other tracks that he owned and could get better attendance. Like everything, it's always about the money.

The races at The Rock were always good......the fans loved it and so did the drivers. I miss those races! We always camped across the road from the track for both races each year. Good times!
The order use to be Riverside, California, Daytona, Rockingham, Richmond. I have sat with my Dad at both Rockingham and Richmond while it was either sleeting or freezing rain begging for them to postpone the race lol.
For whatever reason, I used to love watching a race in person at Rockingham... I don't know if my ass just loved those concrete bleachers or if it was because you could watch two cars battle side by side around the entire length of the track (probably the latter, lol)... I saw Rusty and Earnhardt go around that track side-by-side somewhere close to 20 straight laps in probably the 1988 Fall Race...
 
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