James,James Henderson said:That's why I'm asking because if I'm the media and really care about the country, I think the President should be judged on what contributions he's made moreso than his personality or background.DrummerboyWolf said:How about the unemployment rates at the lowest they have been in 50 years? The lowest African American, Asian, and Hispanic unemployment rates ever.James Henderson said:Has anything positive happened during Trump's tenure that should warrant positive pub from the press?Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:
Trump lies, misleads, and exaggerates so frequently that it's basically impossible to cover him in a way that doesn't sound negative. I'm not talking about understandable misstatements or plausibly defensible statements. Virtually every time he opens his mouth he's saying something that does not survive even remedial scrutiny.
If we have a president that lies, misleads, and exaggerates to the American public constantly, and some multiple more than all his predecessors, wouldn't you expect media coverage of him to be unlike any president before him? Then you layer in his childish impulsivity, massive insecurity, and need to constantly be spouting off on Twitter and you've got a recipe for an unprecedented level of negative media attention.
So much of the negative attention he draws to himself is avoidable too; he definitely doesn't prescribe to the "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt" school of thought. He can't stop talking so he steps on his dick constantly.
I understand why Republicans tire of the media's liberal bent. But Trump being covered differently is completely understandable due to his extraordinarily strained relationship with the truth.
A Trump supporter is murdered by Antifa and you write 4 paragraphs explaining why it's ok that the media vilifies Trump and treats him poorly? Wow. That's some poor timing for that perspective.
They're all bound up together.
Trump's not a victim of anything other than his own diarrhea of the mouth.
We as a country are victims of him stoking the fire of racial animus. We're all paying the price for his tribal divisiveness, including in Kenosha and Portland.
There's a reason hate crimes have markedly increased since he became president. We're not having this conversation if Kasich or Rubio or Cruz is in the White House.
Pubs put an petty, unintelligent, and divisive bull in the White House and then want to play the "poor Trump, poor us" card when we're all getting the horns.
How about the killing of a couple of terrorists?
How about tremendous tax cuts that helped the economy.
James you say you don't follow politics and that is fine. For 4 years the Democrats have accused Trump of colluding with the Russians. Totally False. They had a two year investigation and could not find anything although Robert Mueller's team was filled with Clinton lawyers and Democrats. Then the impeachment scam that had no merit.
There are lots of things you can point to that have been good for the country, but the media will not recognize anything that is good for America.
Of course I didn't know about the unemployment rates or anything like that.
Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
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So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
The Brookings Institute? You are trying to dispute my stats from the DOJ with something from the Brookings Institute? The extremely left leaning Brookings Institute? I see you like your confirmation bias as opposed to straight facts and statistics.Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.Bas2020 said:Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
Was the Cannon Hinnant murder identified as a "hate crime" on your bogus statistics or nah?
Even the NY Times labeled the Brooking Institute as far left liberal propaganda. Don't bring fake news stories in here and try to pass it off as factual.
packgrad said:
If you say xenophobic over and over, it eventually comes true. Truth be damned.
America First is framed as xenophobic by radical liberals. Just mind blowing.
cowboypack02 said:Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.Bas2020 said:Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
...
Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
Was the Cannon Hinnant murder identified as a "hate crime" on your bogus statistics or nah?
Even the NY Times labeled the Brooking Institute as far left liberal propaganda. Don't bring fake news stories in here and try to pass it off as factual.
You know what matters even more than all that?Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
Bas2020 said:cowboypack02 said:Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.Bas2020 said:Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
Was the Cannon Hinnant murder identified as a "hate crime" on your bogus statistics or nah?
Even the NY Times labeled the Brooking Institute as far left liberal propaganda. Don't bring fake news stories in here and try to pass it off as factual.
"Road Rage". And if the races were reversed this would be national if not international news.
And for the record, I have no idea if any of these murders are racial or not. I got no freaking clue, I would guess probably not. But when it's a police incident its automatically racial. How TF does that work? You simply can not have it both ways if your a reasonable person who is intellectually honest with him or herself.
Pacfanweb said:Bas2020 said:cowboypack02 said:Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.Bas2020 said:Civilized said:Pacfanweb said:
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Trump doesn't have a damn thing to do with these things, other than the fact that he simply exists as President. They media/Democrats and their constant stoking of the fires combined with their hatred of Trump has done that, almost 100%.
...
So yeah, Trump says stupid things. He's not a "think on your feet" kind of guy. I personally don't like him and didn't vote for him. However, I can damn well see the orchestrated, constant attack that's been going on against him for the last 4 years as plain as day.
It's all been an attempt to make him look bad, to make him less effective, and to win 2020. No more, no less.
They don't give a damn about these riots. They revel in them. It's more fuel for the fire. They WANT them to continue, so they can keep reporting how bad things are. Same with Covid. The press didn't cause Covid, but they've damn sure blown it out of proportion and have reported it the worst way possible and there's no way Trump isn't a good bit of the reason for that as well.
Hate crimes are way up under Trump. So yes, he does have something 'to do with these things.'
FBI data show that since Trump's election there has been an anomalous spike in hate crimes concentrated in counties where Trump won by larger margins. It was the second-largest uptick in hate crimes in the 25 years for which data are available, second only to the spike after September 11, 2001.
...counties that hosted a Trump campaign rally in 2016 saw hate crime rates more than double compared to similar counties that did not host a rally.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/
When you stand up in front of the country and say xenophobic **** all the time you're sending a clear message that it's fine, or even expected, for Americans to act that way towards each other.
The President of this country's words matter. A lot.
He says 'stupid' and xenophobic things all. the. time. If he's under scrutiny like any president is, and stupid, xenophobic statements pour out of his mouth like water, what is the media supposed to do? Ignore it? It's their job to report it, and yes, since they're more liberal they're going to do so with enthusiasm.
This is what happens when you put a childish, xenophobic, narcissistic reality-show star that's disrespectful to the seriousness of his office in the White House.
A president's political power is kept in check by our three-branch system. But his ability to do harm to the American people and our reputation abroad with his words and rhetoric is basically boundless.
Was the Cannon Hinnant murder identified as a "hate crime" on your bogus statistics or nah?
Even the NY Times labeled the Brooking Institute as far left liberal propaganda. Don't bring fake news stories in here and try to pass it off as factual.
"Road Rage". And if the races were reversed this would be national if not international news.
And for the record, I have no idea if any of these murders are racial or not. I got no freaking clue, I would guess probably not. But when it's a police incident its automatically racial. How TF does that work? You simply can not have it both ways if your a reasonable person who is intellectually honest with him or herself.
That's just exactly right.
If Cannon Hinnant was black and his murderer was white, even if it wasn't racist...say, the guy was strung out on drugs or something....there would be a HUGE outrage and folks screaming how "whites need to stop the violence against blacks". It'd still be on the news, and Wiltson would be in ashes.
You all know that to be true, if you say it wouldn't be you're either totally blind or a liar.
But white people are supposed to shut the hell up and not say anything because we're "privileged". No matter that blacks kill twice as many whites as vice versa and more people overall, despite being only 13% of the total population. Oh no, it'd be racist to point that out.
DrummerboyWolf said:
Here is a story about the alleged shooter in Portland this weekend. This was an execution. I will also include a video from youtube from the victims friend who was there.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/suspect-portland-shooting-antifa-gun-charge
They were also isolated, so it was like a sitting duck for the target. As I said earlier, the internet sleuths had this guy tracked down within about 15 hours. Hopefully they catch this jerk.SupplyChainPack said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Here is a story about the alleged shooter in Portland this weekend. This was an execution. I will also include a video from youtube from the victims friend who was there.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/suspect-portland-shooting-antifa-gun-charge
Yes, you could hear them say, "We've got a couple over here!". That was just before the killing shots were fired.
They went out to kill, and they hunted down somebody they disagreed with and murdered him in cold blood .
cowboypack02 said:
Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.
Oh you know you can't contradict that great thinker Lebron James. You could see his brains, or lack thereof, last year during the Daryl Morey incident and the way he backed the Communist Party in China.packgrad said:
Does sports media ask any of the NBA and WNBA Woke to comment now that additional details have come out about Jacob Blake? Or do we just pretend WNBA players didn't spell out a sexual assaulter's name on their shirts and Lebron James threatened to quit for the season?
Killing someone based on their skin color, religion, political party or sex.Civilized said:cowboypack02 said:
Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.
What's your definition of a hate crime?
Hey now, let's leave LeBron Ramone James out of this!DrummerboyWolf said:Oh you know you can't contradict that great thinker Lebron James. You could see his brains, or lack thereof, last year during the Daryl Morey incident and the way he backed the Communist Party in China.packgrad said:
Does sports media ask any of the NBA and WNBA Woke to comment now that additional details have come out about Jacob Blake? Or do we just pretend WNBA players didn't spell out a sexual assaulter's name on their shirts and Lebron James threatened to quit for the season?
Sorry James. This is political, not sports. LOLJames Henderson said:Hey now, let's leave LeBron Ramone James out of this!DrummerboyWolf said:Oh you know you can't contradict that great thinker Lebron James. You could see his brains, or lack thereof, last year during the Daryl Morey incident and the way he backed the Communist Party in China.packgrad said:
Does sports media ask any of the NBA and WNBA Woke to comment now that additional details have come out about Jacob Blake? Or do we just pretend WNBA players didn't spell out a sexual assaulter's name on their shirts and Lebron James threatened to quit for the season?
SupplyChainPack said:packgrad said:
If you say xenophobic over and over, it eventually comes true. Truth be damned.
America First is framed as xenophobic by radical liberals. Just mind blowing.
That was my thought too. Liberals now label love of country and patriotism as *xenophobia".
They've been fed America-hate dogma for so long, the sound of love of country, even from the POTUS, sounds like fingernails against a chalkboard to them.
Oh I think there is some police brutality, but Lebron in his infinite wisdom spouts off before he knows all the facts. Maybe you are not aware of the Jacob Blake case and what preceded the shooting. Same thing with the George Floyd case with information coming out today that should have come out three months ago. Any police brutality is bad, but the media blows it all up and it's not as bad as it's portrayed.James Henderson said:
In all seriousness, can this topic not be discussed without being political?
It's proven that police brutality extends back pre-Trump, during Obama, pre-Obama, etc...
Why does it have to be political?
I am aware of the Jacob BLake case and George Floyd. I believe those are two entirely different situations.DrummerboyWolf said:Oh I think there is some police brutality, but Lebron in his infinite wisdom spouts off before he knows all the facts. Maybe you are not aware of Jacob Blake case and what preceded the shooting. Same thing with the George Floyd case with information coming out today that should have come out three months ago. Any police brutality is bad, but the media blows it all up and it's not as bad as it's portrayed.James Henderson said:
In all seriousness, can this topic not be discussed without being political?
It's proven that police brutality extends back pre-Trump, during Obama, pre-Obama, etc...
Why does it have to be political?
James read this story I posted above and I will give you a link. The Cop's lawyer says that Floyd ingested a fatal amount of drugs before the arrest. He also says the cops followed by the book what they were supposed to do. This information should have come out 3 months ago, but didn't. Here is the link.James Henderson said:I am aware of the Jacob BLake case and George Floyd. I believe those are two entirely different situations.DrummerboyWolf said:Oh I think there is some police brutality, but Lebron in his infinite wisdom spouts off before he knows all the facts. Maybe you are not aware of Jacob Blake case and what preceded the shooting. Same thing with the George Floyd case with information coming out today that should have come out three months ago. Any police brutality is bad, but the media blows it all up and it's not as bad as it's portrayed.James Henderson said:
In all seriousness, can this topic not be discussed without being political?
It's proven that police brutality extends back pre-Trump, during Obama, pre-Obama, etc...
Why does it have to be political?
The guy sitting on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes, why?
I don't have a real issue with how the Blake incident went down, but that's just me. I believe police officers must protect themselves and others more than the criminal.
Civilized said:SupplyChainPack said:packgrad said:
If you say xenophobic over and over, it eventually comes true. Truth be damned.
America First is framed as xenophobic by radical liberals. Just mind blowing.
That was my thought too. Liberals now label love of country and patriotism as *xenophobia".
They've been fed America-hate dogma for so long, the sound of love of country, even from the POTUS, sounds like fingernails against a chalkboard to them.
Republicans now label xenophobic and anti-immigration sentiments as "love of country" and "patriotism."
Fair to say? See how that works?
Xenophobia:
Mexican immigrants being inordinately criminals and rapists.
Xenophobia:
Muslim ban that got thrown out by high courts for religious discrimination.
Xenophobia:
"China virus" and "Kung Flu."
Racist tropes:
Calling Maxine Waters, Don Lemon, Lebron, etc. stupid or low-IQ.
Winking at white nationalists:
"Very fine people" on both the protester and neo-Nazi counter-protester sides in Charlottesville.
Trump knows that his specific type of crassness and implementation of his xenophobic version of "America First" was what got him elected, and he's very willing to play that up for his own political benefit.
I actually don't think he's smart enough to have any sort of grand plan. He's not a savvy, cunning strategist along the lines of Steve Bannon. He's just an inflammatory opportunist and he knows the dogs come out to support him when he pulls out his "America First" dog whistles.
I don't really care what Floyd did first. To me there is no reason to sit on a guy's neck for 8 minutes with him handcuffed and on the ground.DrummerboyWolf said:James read this story I posted above and I will give you a link. The Cop's lawyer says that Floyd ingested a fatal amount of drugs before the arrest. He also says the cops followed by the book what they were supposed to do. This information should have come out 3 months ago, but didn't. Here is the link.James Henderson said:I am aware of the Jacob BLake case and George Floyd. I believe those are two entirely different situations.DrummerboyWolf said:Oh I think there is some police brutality, but Lebron in his infinite wisdom spouts off before he knows all the facts. Maybe you are not aware of Jacob Blake case and what preceded the shooting. Same thing with the George Floyd case with information coming out today that should have come out three months ago. Any police brutality is bad, but the media blows it all up and it's not as bad as it's portrayed.James Henderson said:
In all seriousness, can this topic not be discussed without being political?
It's proven that police brutality extends back pre-Trump, during Obama, pre-Obama, etc...
Why does it have to be political?
The guy sitting on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes, why?
I don't have a real issue with how the Blake incident went down, but that's just me. I believe police officers must protect themselves and others more than the criminal.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/lawyers-bombshell-claims-george-floyd-case
cowboypack02 said:Killing someone based on their skin color, religion, political party or sex.Civilized said:cowboypack02 said:
Just to clarify....Cannon Hinnant wasn't a hate crime. Neither was the death of the white girl who was killed by 4 african american girls in Raleigh a week or two ago.
What's your definition of a hate crime?
I don't know what was in the heart of someone when they decide to take a life....neither do you. All i can see is the glaring double standard.
- The cop who shot Michael Brown was deemed a racist....even through he was just trying to save his own life.
- Jacob Blake had the cops called on him because he was trying to rape someone at his ex-girlfriend's house, then didn't listen to the cops, fought with him, and then went to his car and was reaching in for something when he was shot.
- There is no proof that what happened with George Floyd was due to race
- There is no proof that what heppened with Breonna Taylor is due to race
We have been told that all of these are hate crimes....but there is no proof of it. Am I just suppose to accept it for what i am told with no other critical thinking?
If i bring up Cannon Hinnant, Veronica Baker, Laura Anderson and Charles Wall there isn't a peep of it being a hate crime even through all of them were randomly killed by someone who was black. I don't know if it was race driven or not...but i do know how each has been treated.
The narrative is that if a white person is killed by a black person then there is no way that it is race driven, but if a black person is killed by a white person then it must be a race crime.
Take the blinders off man
I will agree the charge should not have been murder. The autopsy showed no damage to his neck and he had Fentynal and other drugs in his system. He had Covid and sickle cell. He was saying he couldn't breathe before they had him down. All which could have contributed. If what the lawyer says is true and they did everything by the book, then it's going to be very hard to convict. Then it's really going to get nasty.James Henderson said:I don't really care what Floyd did first. To me there is no reason to sit on a guy's neck for 8 minutes with him handcuffed and on the ground.DrummerboyWolf said:James read this story I posted above and I will give you a link. The Cop's lawyer says that Floyd ingested a fatal amount of drugs before the arrest. He also says the cops followed by the book what they were supposed to do. This information should have come out 3 months ago, but didn't. Here is the link.James Henderson said:I am aware of the Jacob BLake case and George Floyd. I believe those are two entirely different situations.DrummerboyWolf said:Oh I think there is some police brutality, but Lebron in his infinite wisdom spouts off before he knows all the facts. Maybe you are not aware of Jacob Blake case and what preceded the shooting. Same thing with the George Floyd case with information coming out today that should have come out three months ago. Any police brutality is bad, but the media blows it all up and it's not as bad as it's portrayed.James Henderson said:
In all seriousness, can this topic not be discussed without being political?
It's proven that police brutality extends back pre-Trump, during Obama, pre-Obama, etc...
Why does it have to be political?
The guy sitting on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes, why?
I don't have a real issue with how the Blake incident went down, but that's just me. I believe police officers must protect themselves and others more than the criminal.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/lawyers-bombshell-claims-george-floyd-case
Doesn't have to be a murder charge but he needs to be held responsible.
packgrad said:
Lol at literally every one of your examples. I especially loved China Virus and Kung Flu being xenophobic. Jesus, man. You are Super Woke!
Xenophobic, racist, winks at white nationalists, doglwhistles.
You have been programmed.
