Gulfstream4 said:
Werewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:
I stand corrected, there were a lot more outside people than I thought there were based on arrest records. I still don't think the majority of these folks are paid though. And by paid I would say it's probably small donations rather than some evil force.
Welcome to the party, pal!
Sometimes the truth is right there before your eyes. All you have to do is look at it.
But he won't look......he refuses.....and only conditionally admits when he has no wiggle room and his back is to the wall.
His position has moved some over the last couple of years........but he's been kicking and scream the entire distance we've pulled him. He won't admit it though.
I say this with all respect for hokie, I'm sure he's a good guy in every day life and a fine American.
But I've seen many guys like him that refuse to see the situation for what it is. Sometimes things are not as complicated as we make them. Then, when reality hits, they have this befuddled look on their face like "how did this happen "?!
Anyone with two eyeballs can see what's going on with regard to the campus protest and the forces behind it. Furthermore, I feel there are some seriously bad actors involved. China, Russia, Iran…etc. I think we are in some serious trouble and I don't know what the answer is.
There's some irony in you saying "sometimes things aren't as complicated as we make them" and then proceed to roll out a theory about how campus protests in the US are being perpetrated by foreign governments or their black operatives.
You may want to take your own advice here.
Protesters are protesting multiple things, including some rational things, like civilian casualties in Israel's war against Hamas. Some are just college kids caught up in do-good fervor without really knowing how to effect positive change in a heartbreaking situation. Some have no university affiliation but are just piggybacking legit protesting on the college students' protests. Some protesters are also just loony. And some of what they're "protesting" varies from "note well-thought-through" to "projected anger at generic authority" to just "complete bull*****"
But fundamentally foreign wars that involve lots of civilian deaths, especially wars that have a religious clash backstory, aren't a particularly surprising thing to cause protests.
And I haven't seen any protest behavior that is unusually fervent, violent, or whatever. These protests just seem like normal protests.
In short, I'm not sure what you're seeing that makes you believe there's anything beyond what appears to be going on at face value, or what foreign actors would have to gain by participating in or encouraging fairly pedestrian, vanilla protest on college campuses in the US.