Harvick, Xfinity race today.

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ncsupack1 said:

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Question, I've been looking and can't find what channel the cup race is on tomorrow, I saw that wral is carrying football tomorrow instead of the race.

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will see what I can find

https://www.wral.com/wral-tv/tv_schedule/
no idea what 5.2 is or how to watch
will do more research

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did not see race on spectrum channel guide this morning

Sunday, August 15
5 a.m., NASCAR Presents Trackhouse: Get Ready, FS1 (re-air)
6 a.m., NASCAR Race Classics: 1994 Brickyard 400, FS1 (re-air)
9 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series Busch Pole Qualifying, CNBC/NBC Sports App (Canada: TSN5)
11 a.m., NASCAR Raceday: Indianapolis, FS1
12:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series Countdown to Green, NBC/NBC Sports App
1 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series Verizon 200 at the Brickyard, NBC/NBC Sports App (Canada: TSN3, 5)
4 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series Post-Race Show, NBCSN/NBC Sports App
9 p.m., NASCAR Whelen Modified Series Stafford, NBCSN/NBC Sports App (tape delay)
On PRN
Noon, NASCAR Cup Series Verizon 200 at the Brickyard

Interesting. Gonna have to try and find it, or just stream it on the website if it lets me. We may have that 5.2 channel.

NASCAR
NASCAR Cup Series
Brickyard 200, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Indianapolis, IN
Qualifying CNBC, 9 a.m.
Race NBC, 1 p.m.
NASCAR RaceDay: Indianapolis FS1, 11 a.m.
Countdown to Green NBCSN, 12:30 p.m.
Post Race Show NBCSN, 4 p.m.

So you mean to tell me that the most prestigious race in NASCAR other than the Daytona 500 has been scrapped and instead they are going to run it on the road course? What complete dumbasses... pure stupidity!

Not to argue, but attendance and tv has shown that the oval race isn't a prestigious as it once was. They are trying something different, the oval race is kinda been boring.

I was sooooo looking forward to watching the 400 this afternoon, and now I kind of doubt that I will even decide to watch.

More road courses are fine, but not every other race and certainly not in place of the Brickyard. For some reason (not paying good enough attention I guess), I thought the road course was only going to be for the Infinity race.

Majorly disappointed doesn't even begin to describe it right now for me.

Last year it was just Xfinity. I personally wanted it on the oval, my driver was going for three in a rowbut I get the reason why. I'm also not a big fan of 7 road courses.

Wolfer79 said:

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Wolfer79 said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Question, I've been looking and can't find what channel the cup race is on tomorrow, I saw that wral is carrying football tomorrow instead of the race.

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will see what I can find

https://www.wral.com/wral-tv/tv_schedule/
no idea what 5.2 is or how to watch
will do more research

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did not see race on spectrum channel guide this morning

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from WRAl

WRAL is your home for the Panthers. Preseason action against the Colts begins today at 1 p.m. Racing fans can watch the Verizon 200 at the Brickyard on WRAL 2. The new NFL season begins at 1 when the Panthers take on the Colts on WRAL-TV. For the Verizon 200 at the Brickyard, turn to WRAL 2 (over-the-air on channel 5.2 and on Spectrum channel 1255)

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So you mean to tell me that the most prestigious race in NASCAR other than the Daytona 500 has been scrapped and instead they are going to run it on the road course? What complete dumbasses... pure stupidity!

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I agree. The Brickyard is a special place. Hate they changed it.

Separately, I've often wondered why racing has changed so much. The crowds are so much smaller than they used to be. What do you think it is?

Society? Demographics have certainly changed and white guys mostly make up the sport.

Growing up and being pushed to better ourselves? When I was a kid I knew a number of guys with cars in their garage, now I don't know anyone like that.

Just interested what others thoughts were. I was a Saturday night local track kid and I do still like to go. There's barely anyone at those and my family doesn't care to go at all. It's just something from my childhood that I enjoy but the fans and cars just do not exist like they used to.

Thanks found it.

There are a lot of factors, one, is there is a portion of the base that can't get out of 1990lol, second people's attention span is shorter, heck look at some of our football games. And finally, who works on their own cars? I think kids aren't growing up and helping dad, I work on our vehicles and my boys love to help. The sport is still very popular, but sponsors aren't giving thousands of tickets away anymore like a few years ago. That last park gets lost in this discussion, you get a few sponsors buying a thousand tickets or so, on top of the fans getting them, we'll you fill 100-120 thousand seats.

So, 1255 on Spectrum, is NOT HD!! Where else can I watch this?

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I was sooooo looking forward to watching the 400 this afternoon, and now I kind of doubt that I will even decide to watch.

More road courses are fine, but not every other race and certainly not in place of the Brickyard. For some reason (not paying good enough attention I guess), I thought the road course was only going to be for the Infinity race.

Majorly disappointed doesn't even begin to describe it right now for me.

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Agree with you on the proliferation of road courses (which limits the winning pool to about 4??). I was ok with one or two more, but feels like jumped the shark on them?
But disagree on the Brickyard. It had been as boring as the California race for the last number of years.

the curb came up?

It is great to see @joeylogano climb from his car following this incident. pic.twitter.com/ebMYe4qI28

— NASCAR (@NASCAR) August 15, 2021

In the 3 of the last 4 Cup Series races

- The track came up at Atlanta
- They raced in the rain on an oval
- The curbing broke and wrecked at least 11 cars at Indy

— RotoDoc (@RotoDoc) August 15, 2021

I do feel for the fans catching the speedy-dry. #NASCAR | #Verizon200 pic.twitter.com/YSTT4sxwM7

— JJ (@TomcatNASCAR_2) August 15, 2021

7 road courses for the Cup Series has not aged well so far. 3 out of 6 have been mired in controversy

-Daytona: Phantom caution
-COTA: Rain, lack of visibility
-Indy: Curb shenanigans

#NASCAR

AJ Allmendinger wins his first cup series race in 7 years!
#NASCAR

ratings are gonna be a s***show for Indy. In the Carolinas most the NBC stations were showing a freaking exhibition preseason football game instead of the Cup series race. Only way to tune in was online unless you got one of those weird tvs that shows channel 10.2 or whatever it is in ur area for those strange extra channels.

and then they cut to golf with 2 laps to go. Amateur golf at that.

NBC sucks.

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ratings are gonna be a s***show for Indy. In the Carolinas most the NBC stations were showing a freaking exhibition preseason football game instead of the Cup series race. Only way to tune in was online unless you got one of those weird tvs that shows channel 10.2 or whatever it is in ur area for those strange extra channels.

and then they cut to golf with 2 laps to go. Amateur golf at that.

NBC sucks.

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Yeah, that switchover at the end was weird. I had not been watching, frankly, had no idea it started earlier...until one of my kids texted about how it was winding down.
So then I turn it on right at what I guess was the first RWG restart, to see that calamity. Then before the 2nd one, they switched it over!

As frustrating as road courses can be for viewers....that ending today turned out exciting, though I realize NASCAR incompetence with the track also created big problems.

Had enough of the road course for one year. Back to the oval please!

Didn't even watch a lap of it. Sounds like I made the right call.

Monday, August 16
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
7 p.m., Unrivaled: Earnhardt vs. Gordon, FS1 (re-air)

Tuesday, August 17
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1

Wednesday, August 18
3 p.m., IMSA Auto Racing Special Lamborghini Super Trofeo: Road America, NBCSN
4 p.m., IMSA Auto Racing Special Mazda MX-5 Cup: Road America, NBCSN
5 p.m., IMSA Auto Racing Pilot Challenge: Road America 120, NBCSN
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
7 p.m., NASCAR Classic: 1988 Daytona 500, FS1 (re-air)

Thursday, August 19
5 p.m., Dale Jr. Download, NBCSN
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1

Friday, August 20
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
8 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Gateway, FS1
9 p.m., NASCAR Camping World Truck Series Toyota 200 presented by CK Power at Gateway, FS1

On MRN
6 p.m., ARCA Menards Series Henry Ford Health Systems 200 at Michigan
8:30 p.m., NASCAR Camping World Truck Series Toyota 200 presented by CK Power at Gateway

Saturday, August 21
2:30 a.m., NASCAR Camping World Truck Series Toyota 200 presented by CK Power at Gateway, FS1 (re-air)
10 a.m., NASCAR Camping World Truck Series Toyota 200 presented by CK Power at Gateway, FS2 (re-air)
3 p.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series Countdown to Green, NBCSN/NBC Sports App
3:30 p.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series New Holland 250 at Michigan, NBCSN/NBC Sports App (Canada: TSN5)

On MRN
3 p.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series New Holland 250 at Michigan

Sunday, August 22
1 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Michigan, FS1
2 p.m., NASCAR America, NBCSN/NBC Sports App
2:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series Countdown to Green, NBCSN/NBC Sports App
3 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series FireKeepers Casino 400 at Michigan, NBCSN/NBC Sports App (Canada: TSN5)
6 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series Post-Race Show: Michigan, NBCSN/NBC Sports App

On MRN
2 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series FireKeepers Casino 400 at Michigan

Sports Media Watch

NASCAR Brickyard ratings hit new low:
-- Down big from last year (July 4 wknd), but also down from 2019 (September vs. NFL)
-- Least-watched race on broadcast TV this season (12 total)
-- NASCAR-Indy doubleheader down on Saturday (moved from NBC to NBCSN)
https://t.co/WyMqTZz8ZE

Adam Stern

.@NBC earned a 1.8 rating and 2.831 million viewers for Sunday's @Verizon 200 @IMS, down from a 2.7 rating and 4.343M viewers for 2020 Brickyard 400.

This year's race, which started hours earlier than 2020 Brickyard 400, was still the highest-rated sport event of the weekend. https://t.co/wmJKJls9bu

Wolfer79 said:

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Adam Stern

.@NBC earned a 1.8 rating and 2.831 million viewers for Sunday's @Verizon 200 @IMS, down from a 2.7 rating and 4.343M viewers for 2020 Brickyard 400.

This year's race, which started hours earlier than 2020 Brickyard 400, was still the highest-rated sport event of the weekend. https://t.co/wmJKJls9bu

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Are the NASCAR down number comparable with all other sports?

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Wolfer79 said:

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Adam Stern

.@NBC earned a 1.8 rating and 2.831 million viewers for Sunday's @Verizon 200 @IMS, down from a 2.7 rating and 4.343M viewers for 2020 Brickyard 400.

This year's race, which started hours earlier than 2020 Brickyard 400, was still the highest-rated sport event of the weekend. https://t.co/wmJKJls9bu

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Are the NASCAR down number comparable with all other sports?

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from memory

Sunday Night Baseball up around 5%
MLB Field of Dreams game highest ratings in around 10 years
Olympics down 30%

I will look for it, but there was story, either AwfulAnnouncing.com or Sports Media Watch on most watched programs the first 6 months of 2021 and all but 1 or 2 were NFL. I do remember MBB NCAAT with schedule change were tough to compare round vs round.

I think it is interesting that Adam Stern usually has how NASCAR compares to other sports that weekend.

I saw something in last few months that network TV ratings were down 35% .

some sport ratings are trying to find ways to include streaming

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Wolfer79 said:

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Adam Stern

.@NBC earned a 1.8 rating and 2.831 million viewers for Sunday's @Verizon 200 @IMS, down from a 2.7 rating and 4.343M viewers for 2020 Brickyard 400.

This year's race, which started hours earlier than 2020 Brickyard 400, was still the highest-rated sport event of the weekend. https://t.co/wmJKJls9bu

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Worth noting that while ratings for Sunday's race were down double-digits, the share (percentage of households viewing out of the number of homes using TVs) was down only 4%. HUT levels Sunday were down 30% from last year's race date.

— Sports Media Watch (@paulsen_smw) August 18, 2021

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Wolfer79 said:

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Adam Stern

.@NBC earned a 1.8 rating and 2.831 million viewers for Sunday's @Verizon 200 @IMS, down from a 2.7 rating and 4.343M viewers for 2020 Brickyard 400.

This year's race, which started hours earlier than 2020 Brickyard 400, was still the highest-rated sport event of the weekend. https://t.co/wmJKJls9bu

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Are the NASCAR down number comparable with all other sports?

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those who predicted Covid would accelerate existing TV viewing landscape trends were right. via @dbauder https://t.co/duMQ100Gz9

— Sports TV Ratings (@SportsTVRatings) August 18, 2021

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Wolfer79 said:

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Adam Stern

.@NBC earned a 1.8 rating and 2.831 million viewers for Sunday's @Verizon 200 @IMS, down from a 2.7 rating and 4.343M viewers for 2020 Brickyard 400.

This year's race, which started hours earlier than 2020 Brickyard 400, was still the highest-rated sport event of the weekend. https://t.co/wmJKJls9bu

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Ratings roundup:
-- NFL Network's preseason opener tops all of its 2019 preseason games
-- WNBA hits new nine-year high on ABC, cruises past La Liga lead-in
-- EPL has most-watched opening weekend since '15
-- PGA Tour Wyndham Champ. hits low, with caveat
https://t.co/2rX776Unqw

Thank you for the kind words. Remember it like it was yesterday. Dale was so emotional in VL as he looked into camera and spoke to his family. How about the irony of having to outrun the 28 car to get that victory. Rarely saw a Robert Yates car/engine lose a drag race to the flag https://t.co/TYdOzpI1XL

— Dr. Jerry Lee Punch (@DocPunchESPN) August 19, 2021

Really enjoyed the time to chat and reminisce. Love talking about some of the special people I’ve been blessed to know thru the years. https://t.co/FCFRH5Hpj6

— Dr. Jerry Lee Punch (@DocPunchESPN) August 19, 2021

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Thank you for the kind words. Remember it like it was yesterday. Dale was so emotional in VL as he looked into camera and spoke to his family. How about the irony of having to outrun the 28 car to get that victory. Rarely saw a Robert Yates car/engine lose a drag race to the flag https://t.co/TYdOzpI1XL

— Dr. Jerry Lee Punch (@DocPunchESPN) August 19, 2021

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That's some good racing...