TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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Obviously, you are missing the point here somehow... one person, one vote and the person needs to be able to show a picture ID (provided free of charge by the government if a hardship can be shown) to verify that they are the person registered that they say that they are...

Early voting was originally designed to make it easier for people to legally vote... but now, with 17 days of early voting in NC it instead gets used (by these local election boards) to figure out who hasn't voted yet... and I'll just leave it at that.

And finally... I've watched every single presidential election since 1980 to it's finish (I never even went to sleep in 2020, just took a shower and went to the office for another day)... whoever won Ohio has always won the Presidential election in this country going back to some insane date... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

Milwaukee... Detroit... Philadelphia... Atlanta... it was a very distinct pattern... Arizona, I don't even care about... that list of cities above is where the election was stolen... you can rest on whatever you want... "well, they couldn't prove anything" yada yada yada which I've seen get parroted around over and over and over.

I watched it with my own eyes... and I'm not a dumbass either. What happened in 2020 was extremely well orchestrated...

One person, One vote, and a State issued ID. Early voting needs to be made available for a reasonable amount of time... three weeks is not reasonable. No mail in voting for anyone but Military, people temporarily living overseas - and LEGITIMATE health issues. No OPEN mail-in voting.

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BBW12OG said:

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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Obviously, you are missing the point here somehow... one person, one vote and the person needs to be able to show a picture ID (provided free of charge by the government if a hardship can be shown) to verify that they are the person registered that they say that they are...

Early voting was originally designed to make it easier for people to legally vote... but now, with 17 days of early voting in NC it instead gets used (by these local election boards) to figure out who hasn't voted yet... and I'll just leave it at that.

And finally... I've watched every single presidential election since 1980 to it's finish (I never even went to sleep in 2020, just took a shower and went to the office for another day)... whoever won Ohio has always won the Presidential election in this country going back to some insane date... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

Milwaukee... Detroit... Philadelphia... Atlanta... it was a very distinct pattern... Arizona, I don't even care about... that list of cities above is where the election was stolen... you can rest on whatever you want... "well, they couldn't prove anything" yada yada yada which I've seen get parroted around over and over and over.

I watched it with my own eyes... and I'm not a dumbass either. What happened in 2020 was extremely well orchestrated...

One person, One vote, and a State issued ID. Early voting needs to be made available for a reasonable amount of time... three weeks is not reasonable. No mail in voting for anyone but Military, people temporarily living overseas - and LEGITIMATE health issues. No OPEN mail-in voting.

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Great freaking post....... But... but.... "the 61 lawsuits were dismissed...."

Dismissed before ANY investigation. When Wisconsin finished their investigation they found major issues. You can clamor all you want on how the elections are fair and square.

Just explain why the only cities that we EVER have problems with are 100% run by lefties from top to bottom, always come in with results well past everyone else and the tallies always go heavily toward the MARXIST PARTY'S candidate?

I'm sure I'll get plenty replies from my faithful comrades.. just like I did when I just posted the "Top 12 Lefty Hoaxes" about President Trump....

Heads in the sand once again when faced with the facts.

Oh, where is the "I dare you" poster to come and refute the fact that the 12 hoaxes I posted were legit.... guess he's in same place he was when his gun violence BS got smacked down like a fly on a window.

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Manny Sanguine said:

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BBW12OG said:

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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Obviously, you are missing the point here somehow... one person, one vote and the person needs to be able to show a picture ID (provided free of charge by the government if a hardship can be shown) to verify that they are the person registered that they say that they are...

Early voting was originally designed to make it easier for people to legally vote... but now, with 17 days of early voting in NC it instead gets used (by these local election boards) to figure out who hasn't voted yet... and I'll just leave it at that.

And finally... I've watched every single presidential election since 1980 to it's finish (I never even went to sleep in 2020, just took a shower and went to the office for another day)... whoever won Ohio has always won the Presidential election in this country going back to some insane date... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

Milwaukee... Detroit... Philadelphia... Atlanta... it was a very distinct pattern... Arizona, I don't even care about... that list of cities above is where the election was stolen... you can rest on whatever you want... "well, they couldn't prove anything" yada yada yada which I've seen get parroted around over and over and over.

I watched it with my own eyes... and I'm not a dumbass either. What happened in 2020 was extremely well orchestrated...

One person, One vote, and a State issued ID. Early voting needs to be made available for a reasonable amount of time... three weeks is not reasonable. No mail in voting for anyone but Military, people temporarily living overseas - and LEGITIMATE health issues. No OPEN mail-in voting.

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Great freaking post....... But... but.... "the 61 lawsuits were dismissed...."

Dismissed before ANY investigation. When Wisconsin finished their investigation they found major issues. You can clamor all you want on how the elections are fair and square.

Just explain why the only cities that we EVER have problems with are 100% run by lefties from top to bottom, always come in with results well past everyone else and the tallies always go heavily toward the MARXIST PARTY'S candidate?

I'm sure I'll get plenty replies from my faithful comrades.. just like I did when I just posted the "Top 12 Lefty Hoaxes" about President Trump....

Heads in the sand once again when faced with the facts.

Oh, where is the "I dare you" poster to come and refute the fact that the 12 hoaxes I posted were legit.... guess he's in same place he was when his gun violence BS got smacked down like a fly on a window.

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I'm truly touched that you are now keeping track of my posting habits. I was offline last night and busy this morning. I'll respond directly to one or two posts above as I have time.

It's unfortunate that this thread has devolved away from the original topic, but I suppose that is par for the course here. I thought, for the most part, that the focused discussion of the Mar-a-Lago search was interesting and productive.

BTW, still looking out for a post with evidence that Obama ran off with 30 million pages of documents. Hope I didn't miss it or that you didn't forget about it.

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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Obviously, you are missing the point here somehow... one person, one vote and the person needs to be able to show a picture ID (provided free of charge by the government if a hardship can be shown) to verify that they are the person registered that they say that they are...

Early voting was originally designed to make it easier for people to legally vote... but now, with 17 days of early voting in NC it instead gets used (by these local election boards) to figure out who hasn't voted yet... and I'll just leave it at that.

And finally... I've watched every single presidential election since 1980 to it's finish (I never even went to sleep in 2020, just took a shower and went to the office for another day)... whoever won Ohio has always won the Presidential election in this country going back to some insane date... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called - Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

Milwaukee... Detroit... Philadelphia... Atlanta... it was a very distinct pattern... Arizona, I don't even care about... that list of cities above is where the election was stolen... you can rest on whatever you want... "well, they couldn't prove anything" yada yada yada which I've seen get parroted around over and over and over.

I watched it with my own eyes... and I'm not a dumbass either. What happened in 2020 was extremely well orchestrated...

One person, One vote, and a State issued ID. Early voting needs to be made available for a reasonable amount of time... three weeks is not reasonable. No mail in voting for anyone but Military, people temporarily living overseas - and LEGITIMATE health issues. No OPEN mail-in voting.

EDITED TO ADD: And not ONE DAMN THING that Donald J. Trump has ever said, has had any impact of my opinion of the election. I. watched. it. myself.

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called - Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

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BBW12OG said:

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Manny Sanguine said:

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BBW12OG said:

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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Obviously, you are missing the point here somehow... one person, one vote and the person needs to be able to show a picture ID (provided free of charge by the government if a hardship can be shown) to verify that they are the person registered that they say that they are...

Early voting was originally designed to make it easier for people to legally vote... but now, with 17 days of early voting in NC it instead gets used (by these local election boards) to figure out who hasn't voted yet... and I'll just leave it at that.

And finally... I've watched every single presidential election since 1980 to it's finish (I never even went to sleep in 2020, just took a shower and went to the office for another day)... whoever won Ohio has always won the Presidential election in this country going back to some insane date... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

Milwaukee... Detroit... Philadelphia... Atlanta... it was a very distinct pattern... Arizona, I don't even care about... that list of cities above is where the election was stolen... you can rest on whatever you want... "well, they couldn't prove anything" yada yada yada which I've seen get parroted around over and over and over.

I watched it with my own eyes... and I'm not a dumbass either. What happened in 2020 was extremely well orchestrated...

One person, One vote, and a State issued ID. Early voting needs to be made available for a reasonable amount of time... three weeks is not reasonable. No mail in voting for anyone but Military, people temporarily living overseas - and LEGITIMATE health issues. No OPEN mail-in voting.

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Great freaking post....... But... but.... "the 61 lawsuits were dismissed...."

Dismissed before ANY investigation. When Wisconsin finished their investigation they found major issues. You can clamor all you want on how the elections are fair and square.

Just explain why the only cities that we EVER have problems with are 100% run by lefties from top to bottom, always come in with results well past everyone else and the tallies always go heavily toward the MARXIST PARTY'S candidate?

I'm sure I'll get plenty replies from my faithful comrades.. just like I did when I just posted the "Top 12 Lefty Hoaxes" about President Trump....

Heads in the sand once again when faced with the facts.

Oh, where is the "I dare you" poster to come and refute the fact that the 12 hoaxes I posted were legit.... guess he's in same place he was when his gun violence BS got smacked down like a fly on a window.

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I'm truly touched that you are now keeping track of my posting habits. I was offline last night and busy this morning. I'll respond directly to one or two posts above as I have time.

It's unfortunate that this thread has devolved away from the original topic, but I suppose that is par for the course here. I thought, for the most part, that the focused discussion of the Mar-a-Lago search was interesting and productive.

BTW, still looking out for a post with evidence that Obama ran off with 30 million pages of documents. Hope I didn't miss it or that you didn't forget about it.

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I responded. You and your "semantics" are hilarious.

If they have President Trump dead to rights why are they keeping the affidavit sealed? Why won't they release it? And if it was such a "dire threat" to National Security why did it take them 18 months to get them?

Also, read the above posts... just because a document is labeled "Top Secret" etc... doesn't mean it still is as YOU implied numerous times.

It would be like putting water in a milk jug and still calling it milk. That's what you are saying to push your anti-Trump narrative.

Go catch up on your MSM overlord talking points so you'll be able to post something. Take notes for sure...

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As for the affidavit, as far as I can tell, it would be highly unusual for such an affidavit to be made public in an on-going investigation - both to protect the investigation and to protect the privacy of anyone mentioned in the affidavit. If/when someone is indicted, the affidavit will be provided to the indicted party. Perhaps you have some sourse of information showing that it would be normal/expected for such an affidavit to be made public at this point? (Or perhaps not.)

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As for the affidavit, as far as I can tell, it would be highly unusual for such an affidavit to be made public in an on-going investigation - both to protect the investigation and to protect the privacy of anyone mentioned in the affidavit. If/when someone is indicted, the affidavit will be provided to the indicted party. Perhaps you have some sourse of information showing that it would be normal/expected for such an affidavit to be made public at this point? (Or perhaps not.)

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As far as I can tell you once again are doing as much speculation and opinion writing as anyone else but yet claiming and coming off as your words are rock solid, not to be questioned truths....

Perhaps you have some "source" of information that says otherwise.

Oh... and not to mention the fact that the affidavit being served is on a former President's personal residence, was done while he was gone, security cameras were required to be turned off and it was done by someone who he personally prevented from advancing their career to the highest court in the land.

Nah.... nothing to see here. Like with the Dear Leader discussion, you're twisting in the wind and playing the semantics game with not one shred of factual evidence to beyond a shadow of a doubt prove your claim.

Good job with repeating the MSM talking points though. Predictable. I flipped on the TV in my office just for ****s and giggles to see what your reply would be. Low and behold... the talking heads on CNN And MSNBC were commenting on how "it's uncommon for the affidavits to be unsealed..."

Genius I tell you... straight up genius.

With a "person of interest" at this high level, the political implications of the raid and the close proximity to the mid-term elections I, along with about 75 million other Americans, can see through the BS and see that they better come up with something bigger than a few overlooked documents.

What about the nuclear codes/information? Have you given up on that storyline already? Curious to see your take on the 12 other hoaxes that you and your party have perpetrated over the last 6+ years.... How'd those pan out Charlie Brown? Lucy is gonna yank that football again!

But, like a good little follower, you'll be onto the next "we got 'em this time" hoax.... sad life you must lead where a man that did more for this country than your God King Obama ever did or ever intended to in four years than he did in 8.

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As for the affidavit, as far as I can tell, it would be highly unusual for such an affidavit to be made public in an on-going investigation - both to protect the investigation and to protect the privacy of anyone mentioned in the affidavit. If/when someone is indicted, the affidavit will be provided to the indicted party. Perhaps you have some sourse of information showing that it would be normal/expected for such an affidavit to be made public at this point? (Or perhaps not.)

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As far as I can tell you once again are doing as much speculation and opinion writing as anyone else but yet claiming and coming off as your words are rock solid, not to be questioned truths....

Perhaps you have some "source" of information that says otherwise.

Oh... and not to mention the fact that the affidavit being served is on a former President's personal residence, was done while he was gone, security cameras were required to be turned off and it was done by someone who he personally prevented from advancing their career to the highest court in the land.

Nah.... nothing to see here. Like with the Dear Leader discussion, you're twisting in the wind and playing the semantics game with not one shred of factual evidence to beyond a shadow of a doubt prove your claim.

Good job with repeating the MSM talking points though. Predictable. I flipped on the TV in my office just for ****s and giggles to see what your reply would be. Low and behold... the talking heads on CNN And MSNBC were commenting on how "it's uncommon for the affidavits to be unsealed..."

Genius I tell you... straight up genius.

With a "person of interest" at this high level, the political implications of the raid and the close proximity to the mid-term elections I, along with about 75 million other Americans, can see through the BS and see that they better come up with something bigger than a few overlooked documents.

What about the nuclear codes/information? Have you given up on that storyline already? Curious to see your take on the 12 other hoaxes that you and your party have perpetrated over the last 6+ years.... How'd those pan out Charlie Brown? Lucy is gonna yank that football again!

But, like a good little follower, you'll be onto the next "we got 'em this time" hoax.... sad life you must lead where a man that did more for this country than your God King Obama ever did or ever intended to in four years than he did in 8.

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Gee, sorry for the typo.

As for the security cameras, Trump's attorney says that she and the Trump family watched the entire search on the security camera feeds. Not sure where your information comes from. For now, on this point, I'll believe her.

I take it that because I'm not the only person saying that releasing the affidavit would be unusual, I am somehow suspect. I would think it would be the opposite, and that my statement would be less credible if I was the only person saying it. I also assume you don't have any information showing that keeping such affidavits sealed isn't the normal course at this point. Again, I'll just assume there isn't any such information and leave it at that.

Might drop back in here later, but for now you'll just have to carry on by yourself.

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I agree with you except your last point. There is an over classification of documents in the federal government. I will be highly surprised if these documents contain anything special or truly state secrets.

I believe for whatever reason this was done to provoke a response from Trump and that's all. There will be no charges. Hell of Sandy Berger can actually stuff documents in his pants and socks in an attempt to change the recorded history and not go to jail then no one is ever going to go to jail for this charge.

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BBW12OG said:

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Manny Sanguine said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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Obviously, you are missing the point here somehow... one person, one vote and the person needs to be able to show a picture ID (provided free of charge by the government if a hardship can be shown) to verify that they are the person registered that they say that they are...

Early voting was originally designed to make it easier for people to legally vote... but now, with 17 days of early voting in NC it instead gets used (by these local election boards) to figure out who hasn't voted yet... and I'll just leave it at that.

And finally... I've watched every single presidential election since 1980 to it's finish (I never even went to sleep in 2020, just took a shower and went to the office for another day)... whoever won Ohio has always won the Presidential election in this country going back to some insane date... at the time that the election was just getting ready to be called Trump was up less in Ohio than he was in either Michigan or Wisconsin... Michigan was around 8 or so and Wisconsin was over 10... OVER 10!... and dadgumit, why didn't Ohio flip as well?!? What was different about Ohio than that other group of contiguous states?

Milwaukee... Detroit... Philadelphia... Atlanta... it was a very distinct pattern... Arizona, I don't even care about... that list of cities above is where the election was stolen... you can rest on whatever you want... "well, they couldn't prove anything" yada yada yada which I've seen get parroted around over and over and over.

I watched it with my own eyes... and I'm not a dumbass either. What happened in 2020 was extremely well orchestrated...

One person, One vote, and a State issued ID. Early voting needs to be made available for a reasonable amount of time... three weeks is not reasonable. No mail in voting for anyone but Military, people temporarily living overseas - and LEGITIMATE health issues. No OPEN mail-in voting.

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Great freaking post....... But... but.... "the 61 lawsuits were dismissed...."

Dismissed before ANY investigation. When Wisconsin finished their investigation they found major issues. You can clamor all you want on how the elections are fair and square.

Just explain why the only cities that we EVER have problems with are 100% run by lefties from top to bottom, always come in with results well past everyone else and the tallies always go heavily toward the MARXIST PARTY'S candidate?

I'm sure I'll get plenty replies from my faithful comrades.. just like I did when I just posted the "Top 12 Lefty Hoaxes" about President Trump....

Heads in the sand once again when faced with the facts.

Oh, where is the "I dare you" poster to come and refute the fact that the 12 hoaxes I posted were legit.... guess he's in same place he was when his gun violence BS got smacked down like a fly on a window.

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I'm truly touched that you are now keeping track of my posting habits. I was offline last night and busy this morning. I'll respond directly to one or two posts above as I have time.

It's unfortunate that this thread has devolved away from the original topic, but I suppose that is par for the course here. I thought, for the most part, that the focused discussion of the Mar-a-Lago search was interesting and productive.

BTW, still looking out for a post with evidence that Obama ran off with 30 million pages of documents. Hope I didn't miss it or that you didn't forget about it.

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I responded. You and your "semantics" are hilarious.

If they have President Trump dead to rights why are they keeping the affidavit sealed? Why won't they release it? And if it was such a "dire threat" to National Security why did it take them 18 months to get them?

Also, read the above posts... just because a document is labeled "Top Secret" etc... doesn't mean it still is as YOU implied numerous times.

It would be like putting water in a milk jug and still calling it milk. That's what you are saying to push your anti-Trump narrative.

Go catch up on your MSM overlord talking points so you'll be able to post something. Take notes for sure...

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I went back and looked at all of your posts in this thread since noon yesterday. Lots of assertions about Obama and 30 million pages of documents but no links to any actual evidence. Maybe you posted it in another thread? At this point, I'll just assume there is no evidence, and let it go at that.

As for the affidavit, as far as I can tell, it would be highly unusual for such an affidavit to be made public in an on-going investigation - both to protect the investigation and to protect the privacy of anyone mentioned in the affidavit. If/when someone is indicted, the affidavit will be provided to the indicted party. Perhaps you have some sourse of information showing that it would be normal/expected for such an affidavit to be made public at this point? (Or perhaps not.)

I was VERY carefull about how I described the documents removed during the search as bearing markings indicating certain classification levels. I did not characterize the information contained in them in any way. However, I think it is worth noting that the DOJ, in their filing yesterday after having had the opportunity to review the documents, continues to characterize them as containing sensitive information. Neither of us knows anything that contradicts that. (I actually think it's more like putting milk in a milk jug and putting the jug in a field for two weeks. Is it still milk at that point?)

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Although you are probably correct (bolded statement above), it might be prudent to release the affidavit(s) as this is already out of control, from both talking points. Furthermore, with the unprecedented nature of this "raid", the current administration (and DOJ) needs to squelch the rhetoric by showing their cards.

That said, the skeptic, in me, doesn't believe they will do anything to help heel wounds of their bosses (the people)

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I disagree with your choice of the word "raid". Compared to other search warrant executions, this was far from a raid. They showed up mid-morning, they tried to be conspicuous by not wearing those FBI jackets.

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For what it's worth - and if you even care what I think - I don't condone any of this Civil War talk whatsoever... I can see how some people might feel that way, but I think it's very dangerous rhetoric and I don't subscribe to it in any way, shape of form...

Now, if we can't have free and fair elections (one person, one vote) anymore going forward, then that becomes a different issue.

ETA: You were acting as if people still talk like that about Russia, and I was trying to figure out if you were serious or not...

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No, but you're old enough to remember that kind of foolish talk. Heck, i know I said it it when i was a kid. But then you grow up and realize the impact of such actions and that this isn't Hollywood (Red Dawn!!).

100% agree with the point you made in the first para -- that was really my point, that the talk is just dangerous.

And as for the 2nd para -- clearly there is a push to ensure more people can vote, which is not a bad thing, just happens that most of the people who were not participating before are going to align with the party we don't like. I agree with the risk for fraud, but despite the millions spent since the election to prove that, other than a few small one-off scenarios, nothing.

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I wouldn't say nothing. Elections not conducted strictly according to law are a problem. When there's a security breach, one has to assume worst case scenario. The Wisconsin Supreme Court acknowledging that Wisconsin election laws were not conducted lawfully, that constitutes a breach. Gross deviations from accepted practices, policies, and statutory guidance were observed in other states as well. For a time in the military, I investigated fraud and in the detection of fraud, there are a lot of tell-tale signatures. One of them is willful and deliberate obfuscation with the intent to forestall examination of evidence, and there was a lot of that coming from the Fulton and Maricopa county elections authorities.

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Isn't that is the Secret Service, rather than the FBI.

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Isn't that is the Secret Service, rather than the FBI.

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Isn't that is the Secret Service, rather than the FBI.

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So what? Who asked them to be there? Certainly not Trump, right?

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Trump has Secret Service protection around the clock.

And they are not under the DOJ.

Trump, and all ex-Presidents and families receive lifetime protection.

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Isn't that is the Secret Service, rather than the FBI.

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So what? Who asked them to be there? Certainly not Trump, right?

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Doesn't he always have SS coverage?

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I knew the President cannot refuse the protection, but overlooked whether the former Presidents could.
Thanks for the heads up.

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Isn't that is the Secret Service, rather than the FBI.

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So what? Who asked them to be there? Certainly not Trump, right?

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Doesn't he always have SS coverage?

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