2023 - 2024 NASCAR No SRX in 2024

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Wolfer79
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NASCAR
NASCAR Xfinity Series
ToyotaCare 250, Richmond Raceway, Richmond, VA
Qualifying FS1, 8 a.m.
Race FS1, 1 p.m.

NASCAR RaceDay: Xfinity Series FS1, noon

NASCAR Cup Series
Toyota Owners 400, Richmond Raceway, Richmond, VA
Qualifying FS1, 10 a.m.

NASCAR Race Hub Weekend FS1, 9:30 a.m.

NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series
SpeedyCash.com 250, Texas Motor Speedway, Fort Worth, TX
Race FS1, 4:30 p.m.

NASCAR RaceDay: NCTS Setup FS1, 3:30 p.m.
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Rain looks to be moving but I'd say the Xfinity race is going to be delayed.
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Sunday, April 2
8 a.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series: ToyotaCare 250 at Richmond Raceway (re-air), FS2
10 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive Richmond (re-air), FS1
10:30 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice and qualifying at Richmond Raceway (re-air), FS1
2 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Richmond, FS1
3:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Toyota Owners 400 at Richmond Raceway, FS1

On MRN:
2:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Toyota Owners 400 at Richmond Raceway
Wolfer79
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NASCAR
NASCAR Cup Series
Toyota Owners 400, Richmond Raceway, Richmond, VA
Race FS1, 3:30 p.m.

NASCAR RaceDay: Richmond FS1, 2 p.m.

Wolfer79
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Larson's 20th win moves him +1 over Davey Allison, Buddy Baker, Fonty Flock & Greg Biffle on all-time wins list. Ties Speedy Thompson for 42nd. Four drivers own 21 wins: Benny Parsons, Bobby Labonte, Jack Smith & Jeff Burton. In related news, winning races is damn hard.

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Some pretty good drivers on that list. Had a good time yesterday with my sons at Richmond. Nice clean racing yesterday.
ge_traveler
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Awesome job by Josh Berry, finished 2nd. Watched him race for years on the short tracks; super nice dude.
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Monday, April 3
4 a.m. NASCAR Cup Series: Toyota Owners 400 at Richmond Raceway (re-air), FS1
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
7 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Toyota Owners 400 at Richmond Raceway (re-air), FS1
10 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS1
11 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Toyota Owners 400 at Richmond Raceway (re-air), FS2

Tuesday, April 4
2 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS2
3:30 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive: Bristol (re-air), FS1
4 a.m., NASCAR Xfinity Series: ToyotaCare 250 (re-air), FS1
10 a.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: SpeedyCash.com 250 at Texas Motor Speedway (re-air), FS2
Noon, NASCAR Xfinity Series: ToyotaCare 250 (re-air), FS2
2 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Toyota Owners 400 at Richmond Raceway (re-air), FS2
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
6 p.m., Dale Jr. Download, Peacock
7 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive: Bristol (re-air), FS1
10 p.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS2

Wednesday, April 5
1 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive: Bristol (re-air), FS2
8 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive: Bristol (re-air), FS2
2 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS2
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
6 p.m., Dale Jr. Download, Peacock
7 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS1

Thursday, April 6
6 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
6 p.m., Dale Jr. Download, Peacock

Friday, April 7
1 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS2
9 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive: Bristol (re-air), FS2
10 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS2
Noon, NASCAR Pace Lap, MavTV
3 p.m., NASCAR Pace Lap (re-air), MavTV
5:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
6:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
7:30 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
8 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
8:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
9 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS1
10 p.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS1

Saturday, April 8
1 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1
2 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1
2:30 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 1996 Coca-Cola 200 at Bristol (re-air), FS1
6 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS2
7 a.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS2
7:30 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS2
8:30 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1
9 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS1
4:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Dirt, FS2
5:30 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub Weekend Edition: Bristol, FS2
6 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Dirt, FS2
7 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Craftsman Truck Series at Bristol, FS1
8 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt, FS1
10 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1

On PRN:
6 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt

On MRN:
7:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt

Sunday, April 9
1 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS2
4 a.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt (re-air), FS1
6 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS2
7 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS2
10 a.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt (re-air), FS2
2:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt (re-air), FS1
4:30 p.m., Bristol Motor Speedway Easter celebration, FS1
5:30 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Cup Series at Bristol, FS1
6 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Bristol, FOX
7 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Food City Dirt Race, FOX

On PRN:
6 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Food City Dirt Race
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He seems like a good guy. IMO, he has a great future.
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@FS1 got a 1.30 rating and 2.303 million viewers for NASCAR at Richmond; last year was on @FoxTV (2.3/3.958M).

@NBC got 830,000 viewers for IndyCar at Texas, down from 954,000 last year.

@ESPN got 556,000 viewers for F1 in Australia, down from 568,000 last year

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Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
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ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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You make good points. I'm not sure how the toothpaste gets put back into the tube though. NASCAR has its hands full with this and the appeals process. One other thing, not sure why there is a face emoji? That's not supposed to be there…Lol
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ncsupack1 said:

You make good points. I'm not sure how the toothpaste gets put back into the tube though. NASCAR has its hands full with this and the appeals process. One other thing, not sure why there is a face emoji? That's not supposed to be there…Lol
I think the same thing about F1. The way they are treating Andretti regarding joining F1 is a joke.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.
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Officials unveiled the format Thursday for the 2023 NASCAR All-Star Race, which will use a pit-crew challenge to set the starting lineups for qualifying heats, all ahead of a purposely no-frills main event to highlight the return of North Wilkesboro Speedway.
The invitational winner will be determined by 200 laps, with just a competition break at or around Lap 100. Both green-flag and caution laps will count, and overtime rules will be in effect.
Each team will start on new tires for the All-Star Race, and have three additional sets to use. After the competition break, only one additional set of new "sticker" tires can be used.

The more traditional feel of the race meshes with the rebirth of the historic 0.625-mile track, which will mark its first appearance on the NASCAR schedule since 1996 with the All-Star Race on May 21 (8 p.m. ET, FS1, MRN, SiriusXM). Preliminary events include the return of the Craftsman Truck Series (May 20, 1:30 p.m. ET, FOX, MRN, SiriusXM), plus Late Model contests for the CARS Tour (May 17) and the ASA Stars National Tour (May 16).


https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2023/04/06/all-star-race-format-revealed-for-north-wilkesboro-return/
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PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
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Wolfer79 said:




Love me some Sun Drop.
caryking
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ncsupack1 said:

PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Wolfer79
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Friday, April 7
1 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS2
9 a.m., NASCAR Race Hub: Best of Radioactive: Bristol (re-air), FS2
10 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS2
Noon, NASCAR Pace Lap, MavTV
3 p.m., NASCAR Pace Lap (re-air), MavTV
5:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
6:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
7:30 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub, FS1
8 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
8:30 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS1
9 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub (re-air), FS1
10 p.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS1
Wolfer79
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NASCAR
NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series
Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt, Bristol Motor Speedway, Bristol, TN
Practice FS1, 5:30 p.m.
Final Practice FS1, 8 p.m.

NASCAR Cup Series
Food City Dirt Race, Bristol Motor Speedway, Bristol, TN
Practice FS1, 6:30 p.m.
Final Practice FS1, 8:30 p.m.

NASCAR Race Hub FS1, 7:30 p.m.
NASCAR Race Hub: Paula Murphy: Undaunted FS1, 9 p.m.
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caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
No. These teams will find other places to spend money on. I mean some of these teams have multiple car engineers. The one thing that could help with cost is a spending cap. I believe that that's why NASCAR has told these teams a few times to cut cost, the teams aren't required to have 200 plus employees. And finally, the cars have never been "stock". It's a very interesting topic for sure with no easy answer.
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Not surprised at all. Things happen, my guess is NAPA got a price reduction.
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Saturday, April 8
1 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1
2 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1
2:30 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 1996 Coca-Cola 200 at Bristol (re-air), FS1
6 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS2
7 a.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt, FS2
7:30 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS2
8:30 a.m., NASCAR Cup Series final practice at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1
9 a.m., NASCAR Greatest Races: 2007 Food City 500 at Bristol (re-air), FS1
4:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Dirt, FS2
5:30 p.m., NASCAR Race Hub Weekend Edition: Bristol, FS2
6 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Dirt, FS2
7 p.m., NASCAR RaceDay: Craftsman Truck Series at Bristol, FS1
8 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt, FS1
10 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt (re-air), FS1

On PRN:
6 p.m., NASCAR Cup Series: Qualifying races at Bristol Motor Speedway Dirt

On MRN:
7:30 p.m., NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series: Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt
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NASCAR
NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series
Weather Guard Truck Race on Dirt, Bristol Motor Speedway, Bristol, TN
Qualifying Races FS2, 4:30 p.m.
Race FS1, 8 p.m.

NASCAR RaceDay: NCTS Setup: Bristol FS1, 7 p.m.

NASCAR Cup Series
Food City Dirt Race, Bristol Motor Speedway, Bristol, TN
Qualifying Races FS2, 6 p.m.

NASCAR Race Hub: Weekend Edition FS2, 5:30 p.m.
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ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
No. These teams will find other places to spend money on. I mean some of these teams have multiple car engineers. The one thing that could help with cost is a spending cap. I believe that that's why NASCAR has told these teams a few times to cut cost, the teams aren't required to have 200 plus employees. And finally, the cars have never been "stock". It's a very interesting topic for sure with no easy answer.


I agree. Teams will spend money on all types of things. My question is more around the car expenses. They could get back to the manufacture having more input on the styling of the car, parts having to be sold in the parts department, etc…

There has to be a way to simplify the car in order to lower cost.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
No. These teams will find other places to spend money on. I mean some of these teams have multiple car engineers. The one thing that could help with cost is a spending cap. I believe that that's why NASCAR has told these teams a few times to cut cost, the teams aren't required to have 200 plus employees. And finally, the cars have never been "stock". It's a very interesting topic for sure with no easy answer.


I agree. Teams will spend money on all types of things. My question is more around the car expenses. They could get back to the manufacture having more input on the styling of the car, parts having to be sold in the parts department, etc…

There has to be a way to simplify the car in order to lower cost.


From the people I have spoken with, the manufacturers did have a say in these cars, and also a lot of these parts cannot be modified,,, funny I type this after what happened this week. I say that a spending cap would work best. Kinda like how wind tunnel time works now.
But I agree the cost is high.
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ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
No. These teams will find other places to spend money on. I mean some of these teams have multiple car engineers. The one thing that could help with cost is a spending cap. I believe that that's why NASCAR has told these teams a few times to cut cost, the teams aren't required to have 200 plus employees. And finally, the cars have never been "stock". It's a very interesting topic for sure with no easy answer.


I agree. Teams will spend money on all types of things. My question is more around the car expenses. They could get back to the manufacture having more input on the styling of the car, parts having to be sold in the parts department, etc…

There has to be a way to simplify the car in order to lower cost.


From the people I have spoken with, the manufacturers did have a say in these cars, and also a lot of these parts cannot be modified,,, funny I type this after what happened this week. I say that a spending cap would work best. Kinda like how wind tunnel time works now.
But I agree the cost is high.


I'm really talking about going back to this…

https://pin.it/7sI01cF
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

PossumJenkins said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
No. These teams will find other places to spend money on. I mean some of these teams have multiple car engineers. The one thing that could help with cost is a spending cap. I believe that that's why NASCAR has told these teams a few times to cut cost, the teams aren't required to have 200 plus employees. And finally, the cars have never been "stock". It's a very interesting topic for sure with no easy answer.


I agree. Teams will spend money on all types of things. My question is more around the car expenses. They could get back to the manufacture having more input on the styling of the car, parts having to be sold in the parts department, etc…

There has to be a way to simplify the car in order to lower cost.


From the people I have spoken with, the manufacturers did have a say in these cars, and also a lot of these parts cannot be modified,,, funny I type this after what happened this week. I say that a spending cap would work best. Kinda like how wind tunnel time works now.
But I agree the cost is high.


I'm really talking about going back to this…

https://pin.it/7sI01cF
For whatever reason I can't get the link to work.
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ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

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caryking said:

ncsupack1 said:

Would like to know why Jim France is dead set on not making the charters permanent.
Why even have charters? Just let anybody go out and compete for a spot. I'm not sure I would even give a guaranteed slot for anyone. Now, I might would have multiple attempts of qualifying or something like that.

If the teams pulled out of NASCAR, then we could see another LIV type thing and hopefully, the series will get better. NASCAR needs competition in stock car racing.
Charters specifically may not be the answer...but the teams have to have some kind of security. You wouldn't have a LIV type thing because its not a guy and his clubs. It's a guy with $10's of millions needed to sink into it. It's a scary thing for a race team owner to have to find millions of dollars in sponsorship just to break even.

I have watched numerous people come into the sport and spend themselves broke trying to keep up. It has literally killed two people I know including a very close friend. And that's not hyperbole. Those guys are dead. I'm not saying the sport as a whole hasn't been complicit in creating the problem of exorbitant budgets needed to run a race team...but there has to be some kind of security.


Agree. These owners need somewhat of a return on their investment.
Would changing the rules to more of the Stock Car type car help with cost?
No. These teams will find other places to spend money on. I mean some of these teams have multiple car engineers. The one thing that could help with cost is a spending cap. I believe that that's why NASCAR has told these teams a few times to cut cost, the teams aren't required to have 200 plus employees. And finally, the cars have never been "stock". It's a very interesting topic for sure with no easy answer.


I agree. Teams will spend money on all types of things. My question is more around the car expenses. They could get back to the manufacture having more input on the styling of the car, parts having to be sold in the parts department, etc…

There has to be a way to simplify the car in order to lower cost.


From the people I have spoken with, the manufacturers did have a say in these cars, and also a lot of these parts cannot be modified,,, funny I type this after what happened this week. I say that a spending cap would work best. Kinda like how wind tunnel time works now.
But I agree the cost is high.


I'm really talking about going back to this…

https://pin.it/7sI01cF
For whatever reason I can't get the link to work.
I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em. Jim Valvano.

 
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