Packchem91 said:
DrummerboyWolf said:
Packchem91 said:
DrummerboyWolf said:
wilmwolf80 said:
I'm surprised to see that article from Yahoo, but it's spot on. People have very strong opinions on Phil, and that's not going to change, but he was definitely shown to be right in all that has happened, even if you question his methodology. I actually almost feel bad for Rory. He's been white knighting for the tour for several years and got thrown under the bus and then backed over again. Now, I don't actually feel sorry for him because at his level I would think he'd have the business acumen to know it was a possibility all along. I respect the guys on both sides who has their viewpoints and disagreements without all the grandstanding.
Yep, everything he was advocating for, the shortened season, the bigger events, the PGA paying more money than they said they had, he was right. As you say they may not like his methodology, but he and others brought about change that never would have happened had they not gone to LIV.
He also brought about change for the American Ryder Cup team. We have seen that with the last two dominating events at Hazeltine and Whistling Straights. Many people did not like what he did to Tom Watson, but again he stuck his neck out and change happened.
The sticking point is going to be how Phil, DJ, Brooks, and the others are integrated back in. Jay Monohan keeps saying that the players who stayed loyal have to get be compensated in some way and the players who left are going to pay some reentry fee. Well I doubt the Saudi's are going to invest all this money if those stars are not allowed to return. They have already spent probably close to a billion dollars for a lot of those guys, they will be on the PGA tour somehow and if you think they won't let them back in if they want to come, then I have some ocean front property in Kansas for you. The LIV guys took a lot of heat and Rex Hoggard reported the other day that at least one LIV player was saying, and I am paraphrasing, "When do I get my apology for the hit on my reputation." It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I think I've read you are a business owner.
So if one of your best and top execs, who knew where all the bodies were buried, not only left your company for a hot start up, but bad mouthed you on the way out, amd then sued you, would you welcome him back?
Because that is what your boy did. There are some guys who went to LIV who just wanted the $, and I suspect they'll be welcomed back at some point - DJ, as an example
But Phil and Reed and some other guys actually tried to damage the PGA. And did. I wouldn't let them back.
And now they'd have nowhere to turn because LIV - the league - was and will fail
I am a business owner, but I only have one employee and that is me.
Phil did not say anything about the PGA Tour that was not true and that has come out. Phil has a LIFETIME EXEMPTION on the PGA Tour and has earned that with 45 victories. Again you may not like his methodology but he effected change. Arnie and Jack broke away from the PGA of America in 1968 and formed the PGA Tour, so were they wrong in what they did? That was mainly about money too.
Phil did not need the money. He always said that there was a financial commitment from LIV, but he wanted to change the tour for the better and in a few years that will probably happen and most people, even Rory agree with that.
If he had just gone for the money, no big deal. But you left out the part where he took part in a lawsuit against the PGAT. That's not "changing the tour for the better"
They suspended a member with an earned lifetime membership. He has never resigned his membership. He tried changing things from the inside and that didn't work. There were many parties to the lawsuit and most of the players have dropped out including Phil since LIV was suing the PGA Tour.
I get it you and others don't like Phil. That is fine, but he is not the villain here. Who looks better now Phil or Jay Monohan? I think most people objectively would say Phil.
Last year Phil had received messages from many of the PGA Tour players saying thank you to him because of the PGA Tour having to adapt and change some things. I can't find that specific interview but here is something he said last year from LIV Boston.
Q. You talked with SI early in the week, which I appreciated, you talked about vindication, talked about some regrets. I wonder if there are any specifics you'd be comfortable sharing?PHIL MICKELSON: I didn't say I felt vindicated, I said I felt happy for the guys, that they have a voice and they're being valued and they're being heard, and changes are being implemented to show that appreciation, because that hasn't been the case, and it hasn't had to be the case because there was no other option and no leverage.Now they're being heard and things are changing. So things have gotten better for everybody in professional golf and I believe for the fans, too, because they're seeing golf in a different environment with LIV. They're seeing on the TOUR, the TOUR is bringing their best players together more often. LIV is moving professional golf throughout the world. LIV is adding a team aspect, which is different. They're adding a different viewership to watch golf without commercials and shot after shot.I think the fans are getting a lot of benefit out of this, and all golfers, all professional golfers are getting a lot of benefit. The guys on the TOUR are playing for a lot more money. It's great that they magically found a couple hundred million; that's awesome.Out on LIV, we have as players an incredible opportunity here to play for a lot of money and to be part of a team aspect and to really build this brand up and showcase it throughout the world.Everybody is I think in a better position now than they were a year ago.I know you don't like the players wearing shorts, but I bet if you play you wear shorts. I doubt seriously the PGA will do that, but one would think you would want your best players being comfortable. It connects the fans to the players because most of the fans wear shorts.
Now Phil lost most of his sponsors last year, but I am sure what the Saudi's paid him will make that up, but his deal with Callaway was "put on pause." Last LIV tournament I saw a commercial for Callaway Paradygm Drivers, and I am 99.999% sure that Phil is narrating the commercial. He used to do it and I believe he is back doing it. He kind of puts on his radio voice, but again I would bet $100 right now that it is him. Here is the spot.
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