Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that.

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Australia also doesn't have the 2nd Amendment. To me, all your doing is taking an extreme in one country and trying to apply it in the US like it's on the precipice of being enacted. That does absolutely nothing other than fear monger

There's more guns than people in the US. To think there's even a possibility of making that happen falls in the realm of ludicrous

hokiewolf said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that.

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Australia also doesn't have the 2nd Amendment. To me, all your doing is taking an extreme in one country and trying to apply it in the US like it's on the precipice of being enacted. That does absolutely nothing other than fear monger

There's more guns than people in the US. To think there's even a possibility of making that happen falls in the realm of ludicrous

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Michael Moore was on MSNBC today calling for the Second Amendment to be repealed, giving hope to his Leftist followers by arguing that "the impossible can happen".

https://rumble.com/v161snt-michael-moore-calls-for-scrapping-second-amendment.html

The point is that if these far Left Marxist DemonRats have their way, they will enact extreme levels of gun bans and gun control. In their ideal world, the Second Amendment is repealed, and they disarm the population completely. And in Democrat-run cities and states, they have been for decades now banning whole classes of firearms -- handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.

And this is not "extreme" when you look at the world, in terms of if it is common. In the vast majority of nations in the world, there are no recognized gun rights. Most of Europe, and Canada and Australia have very strict gun control and only allow very limited gun ownership. The communist Left in America would like to do this here as well.

No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

Yeah, I don't listen to idiots like Michael Moore and I'm
Fairly certain that the majority of Americans also don't listen to idiots like Michael Moore.

hokiewolf said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that.

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Australia also doesn't have the 2nd Amendment. To me, all your doing is taking an extreme in one country and trying to apply it in the US like it's on the precipice of being enacted. That does absolutely nothing other than fear monger

There's more guns than people in the US. To think there's even a possibility of making that happen falls in the realm of ludicrous

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You don't allow for the fact that until recently, Australia was regarded as a free nation and respected concerning the rule of law and basic human rights. Much like ours. That changed almost overnight to a callous police state. After two years of Covid-driven abuses of government at all levels, I would not be hasty about labeling any scenario as ludicrous. U.S. politicians are as human as any elsewhere on the planet and crave the accumulation of power the same as any, elsewhere on the planet.

Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that.

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Exactly! Australia used to be almost as free as the USA, but now they cannot fight back against an oppressive government. No thanks for me either.

Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that

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Australian tyranny?

Concentration camps?

When these are the counterpoints to well-crafted laws, we're definitely at the Freedom Over Everything stage of the debate.

caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

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That is why we are still free, although that is eroding. Our Founders were very smart men. The reason we are unique is our freedoms. Not that we are better people than other countries, but our freedoms and liberty gives the USA and it's citizens the best chance to succeed. Terrible tragedy yesterday, but either you want to live in a free society or not. If you don't then pack your bags and move to one of these so called "smarter" countries who limit gun rights and your freedoms.

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that

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Australian tyranny?

Concentration camps?

When these are the counterpoints to well-crafted laws, we're definitely at the Freedom Over Everything stage of the debate.

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"Well-crafted" lmao

Is that the new talking point the far Left Lamestream media and Marxist Democrats have given?

I bet that "two week" lockdown over the covid scamdemic was "well-crafted" too. Well-crafted tyranny.

Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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Other countries have much higher murder rates, and have draconian gun bans. They are murdering each other with knives, bats, and other means. Does an "evil" gun make a murder "worse" than if you are stabbed, strangled, or bludgeoned to death?

The United States has a relatively low homicide rate, compared to the rest of the world. And prior to the 1950s, it had a very low rate, even with a very high gun ownership rate.

Our freedom is pretty unique. Most nations of the world don't even have freedom of speech. But the communist Left will also preach to us that our free speech rights and the First Amendment are "dangerous", because it allows all sorts of speech that Leftist snowflakes can't handle -- eg, "raycism", "misinformation", "conspiracy theories", etc.

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Oldsouljer said:

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I think not . Well-crafted gun laws led to today's Australian tyranny and concentration camps. No thank you to that

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Australian tyranny?

Concentration camps?

When these are the counterpoints to well-crafted laws, we're definitely at the Freedom Over Everything stage of the debate.

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Freedom is the basis that allows you to ***** about this sad event! Not giving it up, sorry!

Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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You are the most racist poster on this board. It's no secret you try and bring race into everything. You are a sad, sad individual.

With your President hiring solely on the basis of race, picking his VP, SCOTUS Justice and 80% of his appointments based solely ON race, not qualifications, you should be happy to be aboard the "Good Ship Dip****"....

In typical LEFTY fashion... here is the hero of the left the Irish Mexican Robert(o) Francis(co) O'Rourke(z) for those who aren't familiar with the WASP translation of his Latino name!

Blows my mind that the left never misses a chance to politicize EVERY tragedy in order to score political points or make jackasses out of themselves. Batting 1.000 on that one... even on here.

BREAKING: Beto O'Rourke just disrupted Greg Abbott's press conference on the school shooting in Texas.

A Sheriff calls him a "sick son of a bitch." pic.twitter.com/KieQw9vITn

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) May 25, 2022

In the 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s it was easier to get a gun than it is today. And yet somehow we didn’t have this issue. Coincidentally this issue started with the first generation that was mass prescribed psychotropic drugs but let’s not look at that. Big Pharma pays too much.

— Carmine Sabia (@CarmineSabia) May 25, 2022

People can offer any opinion they want about guns but a real question we have to start asking ourselves is why we have this many people mentally unhealthy enough to kill school children?

— Gary Sheffield Jr. (@GarysheffieldJr) May 24, 2022

Is this where we are headed?

There is no more reason. There is no more middle ground. And I’m not interested in civility anymore. You people are fucking monsters. Andrew Breitbart was correct. pic.twitter.com/kUT9g1F0qE

— Carmine Sabia (@CarmineSabia) May 25, 2022

And we have people like Chem wanting to mock me when I make a comment about societal degradation…. Where are we headed?

I agree…

https://truthsocial.com/users/breitbartnews/statuses/108363885770097220

Well it would take them months to figure out what outfits they would wear to battle on each front. Then they'd have to coordinate which pronouns they would be using. Most of all, they'd have to design a flag that included all 150 genders, 238 sexual orientations and last but not least every possible ethnic group/combination they could think of

By that time they'd have their asses kicked all the way up into their throats. They talk a big game. The last thing the looney left wants to do is start a fight with the "rubes" that aren't smart enough to bow down to their intellect.

Much like that scrappy bunch of farmers that kicked the **** out of England almost 250 years ago. Maybe we need to remind them what happened the last time a bunch of loud mouth bully blowhards tried to enforce their way of thinking on Freedom loving Patriots.....

Or just give them the West Coast and the Northeast. Ship their liberal asses to the MARXIST utopias they so desire.

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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You are the most racist poster on this board. It's no secret you try and bring race into everything. You are a sad, sad individual.

With your President hiring solely on the basis of race, picking his VP, SCOTUS Justice and 80% of his appointments based solely ON race, not qualifications, you should be happy to be aboard the "Good Ship Dip****"....

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Ouch, you got me.

https://gettr.com/post/p1bacvxefad

Packchem91 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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You are the most racist poster on this board. It's no secret you try and bring race into everything. You are a sad, sad individual.

With your President hiring solely on the basis of race, picking his VP, SCOTUS Justice and 80% of his appointments based solely ON race, not qualifications, you should be happy to be aboard the "Good Ship Dip****"....

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Ouch, you got me.

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Glad to see you are admitting it…

caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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You are the most racist poster on this board. It's no secret you try and bring race into everything. You are a sad, sad individual.

With your President hiring solely on the basis of race, picking his VP, SCOTUS Justice and 80% of his appointments based solely ON race, not qualifications, you should be happy to be aboard the "Good Ship Dip****"....

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Ouch, you got me.

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Glad to see you are admitting it…

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Again... he's a race baiting troll. That's all he brings to the conversation.

BBW12OG said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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No other country has anything like our second amendment, that I know of. No other country has ever been set up like our country. Most other country's are government controlled. Our country requires consent; therefore, the people are in control.

You cannot compare other country's to our country! There is NO comparison! We are unique! The further we get from our uniqueness, the closer we get to tyranny and craziness.

Folks, no one ever wants to see kids killed in cold blood. In fact, I may lose my faith, if it was one of my kids.

That said, the cultural degradation of our society, in whole, is as much to do with this happening as guns. If you really want to slow down this type of crappy event, then work in your local community to build a stronger relationship with those people. Speak truth to the degrading society! You all know what it is; now, it's on us to create a better community.

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking, culturally, are bad!!!

This, along with other cultural degradations, are the root cause to the majority of this mess!! You all know it, now, just admit it!

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first, we are unique indeed....our death by guns is very unique.

second, which communities are you wanting to talk to about these crappy events? Yours? Mine? Or just ones people typically say are the "bad ones" ? Because don't a lot of these mass killings come from people who don't look all that different likely from most of the posters on this board?

Now, hand guns in inner cities....sure, but again, its well established, we don't care (as a country). But we do care about when it happens in schools, shopping centers, work places, etc.

And are you really suggesting racial thinking is a "new way of thinking"? Its pretty clear that is what happened in Buffalo .....and that root cause is as old as time.

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You are the most racist poster on this board. It's no secret you try and bring race into everything. You are a sad, sad individual.

With your President hiring solely on the basis of race, picking his VP, SCOTUS Justice and 80% of his appointments based solely ON race, not qualifications, you should be happy to be aboard the "Good Ship Dip****"....

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Ouch, you got me.

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Glad to see you are admitting it…

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Again... he's a race baiting troll. That's all he brings to the conversation.

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First, do you have to give $$ back when you don't work Marxist into a post?

Ok Heckyl and Jeckyl, who made this comment to which I responded?

Thug life is bad! Racial minds are bad! Gender spectrums are bad! All these new ways of thinking,


And I'm the race guy? Explain to me how racial minds are bad is some kind of new way of thinking?
And here is what we all know race had 100% to do with Buffalo, or are you on GPs side that the government did it?

caryking said:

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In the 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s it was easier to get a gun than it is today. And yet somehow we didn’t have this issue. Coincidentally this issue started with the first generation that was mass prescribed psychotropic drugs but let’s not look at that. Big Pharma pays too much.

— Carmine Sabia (@CarmineSabia) May 25, 2022

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Ive stayed out of this thread cause I dont really have too much to add that hasnt already been said by both sides. But I was having a conversation with a friend of mine today with a similar tone. I firmly believe the response on April 20th, 1999 plays a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE reason to this, not just drugs. Those morons gave them a manifesto and the response gave them the attention they craved

My last post on the Texas school shooting yesterday. I'm mad that 19 kids and 2 adults lost their lives yesterday. Their photos are online. Go look at them. Then go look at your kids and just for a minute imagine if this happened in their school. Then hug them and tell them you love them. Hopefully tomorrow it won't be their schools turn

And you also have to factor in the generation of "trophies for all" has to factor in somewhere. Not to mention zero discipline can be enacted in school, many of the parents are under the impression that little Jimmy and little Karen are perfect saints that do no wrong even though they know they are horrible kids.

You can see from the posts of a few on here they have quite the collection of 7th place trophies and medals hung on their walls.

Add in the dehumanization in video games today they can't handle they become numb to "actual" deaths or carnage they imagine in their addled minds.

Some if not all of these shooters since 1998 I'd put money on were on some type of behavioral modifying drug. Many have been recalled and deemed harmful. But the big pharma companies that have the left bought and paid for keep cranking out "new" "safe" variants of the drugs to pump in kids that need a good a s s whipping instead of a pill three times a day.

As far as you go chem.... go pound sand.

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My last post on the Texas school shooting yesterday. I'm mad that 19 kids and 2 adults lost their lives yesterday. Their photos are online. Go look at them. Then go look at your kids and just for a minute imagine if this happened in their school. Then hug them and tell them you love them. Hopefully tomorrow it won't be their schools turn

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Better than the tasteless joke you made to start the thread. Still can't believe someone with your supposed background would be so crass and insensitive. Says a hell of a lot if you ask me.

Between that and threatening to publicly dox me you may need to consider stepping away from the message board life. Some people just can't handle it.

Glasswolf said:

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My last post on the Texas school shooting yesterday. I'm mad that 19 kids and 2 adults lost their lives yesterday. Their photos are online. Go look at them. Then go look at your kids and just for a minute imagine if this happened in their school. Then hug them and tell them you love them. Hopefully tomorrow it won't be their schools turn

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You should be mad. We should all be mad. But then no one wants anything to change that impacts, or may remotely impact, them. Some will leap to the conclusion (adn scream it loudly) the that gubmint is going to take alllll their guns.
And so eventually nothing meaningful will happen.
And then we'll just move on. I mean, really, until yesterday when it brought it back up, when was the last time you (or we, collectively) thought about Buffalo? And that was what, 3 weeks ago?

Glasswolf said:

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My last post on the Texas school shooting yesterday. I'm mad that 19 kids and 2 adults lost their lives yesterday. Their photos are online. Go look at them. Then go look at your kids and just for a minute imagine if this happened in their school. Then hug them and tell them you love them. Hopefully tomorrow it won't be their schools turn

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Glass, I get it! My daughter rides the Q Train in NYC everyday. That's the same train that had an incident recently. So yes, I can't imagine that happening to my daughter. I called her today to let her know I love her.

This is so sad for the families in Texas, no doubt. I just don't think people are being rational about real solutions. Also, I wish we would let all the facts get out before the radicals (on both sides) start the politicking…

Typically, the radicals will start with gun laws, then the other radicals and non-radicals try to defend the 2nd amendment. We don't have enough facts to cast any real judgement.

Radicals starting with gun laws puts everyone else on the defensive and then it just goes to hell from there. I wish the radicals, that start with gun laws, would just shut the hell up for a moment and see this issue to full understanding. Then, we can hopefully have meaningful possible discussion to help with this incident.

People like Chem just can't help themselves!

caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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My last post on the Texas school shooting yesterday. I'm mad that 19 kids and 2 adults lost their lives yesterday. Their photos are online. Go look at them. Then go look at your kids and just for a minute imagine if this happened in their school. Then hug them and tell them you love them. Hopefully tomorrow it won't be their schools turn

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Glass, I get it! My daughter rides the Q Train in NYC everyday. That's the same train that had an incident recently. So yes, I can't imagine that happening to my daughter. I called her today to let her know I love her.

This is so sad for the families in Texas, no doubt. I just don't think people are being rational about real solutions. Also, I wish we would let all the facts get out before the radicals (on both sides) start the politicking…

Typically, the radicals will start with gun laws, then the other radicals and non-radicals try to defend the 2nd amendment. We don't have enough facts to cast any real judgement.

Radicals starting with gun laws puts everyone else on the defensive and then it just goes to hell from there. I wish the radicals, that start with gun laws, would just shut the hell up for a moment and see this issue to full understanding. Then, we can hopefully have meaningful possible discussion to help with this incident.

People like Chem just can't help themselves!

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LOL, the guy who was gleeful this morning to have a bunch of people posting and debating (you have to turn lemons into lemonade, right?) is whining about others opinions on the topic is hilarious.

There are really 2 non-rational thoughts on this topic right now:
1) take all guns away --- I've not seen a single point on this thread even remotely suggest this
2) don't you dare prevent me from getting more guns -- this has been posted numerous times including by you.
But I know as you've posted before...you don't believe in compromise.

Buying and owning guns is every law abiding citizens' rights as Americans.

You take the illegally purchased guns away from the criminals first and then we can discuss taking mine. But you don't want to piss off your voting base do you now?

Until then...go pound sand.

*and yes I paraphrased a Charlie Daniels song! He'd be called a racist by our resident racist on this board.

I would opine that until the laws we have on the books now are faithfully executed as the people used to expect that they were, any talk of new laws should be a non-starter. The public correctly perceives that the rule of law is dead or dying and isn't interested in any new restrictions.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/christchurch-new-zealand-ardern-guns/2022/05/25/id/1071474/

And the NZ socialist joins the chorus

caryking said:

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I talked to my wife after she got to work. She said that the school and the teachers have a certain calmness about the safety there. As stated earlier, all the doors are locked, from the outside. People are not getting in (easily).

BTW, she took her cannon with her. It's in the classroom waiting for any intruder...

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I've been meaning to ask since i saw this....when did it become legal to carry weapons onto school property? I knew there had been some talk about legislation, but thought it was still only resource officers and a few other very special use cases