Texas School shooting

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-signs-bipartisan-gun-control-bill-going-to-save-a-lot-of-lives/

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The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act includes enhanced background checks for under-21 gun buyers as well as funding to help states pass and implement "red flag" laws to allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous. It also allocates billions in new funding for mental health and school safety, including money for the national build out of community mental-health clinics.
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https://conservativebrief.com/2a-64120/
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BREAKING....it's happened in Texas again!!

50 people found dead, gunned down in with an AR-15 inside a trailer. 50 innocent people killed because you gun-humping Republicans worship the Second Amendment. How many more have to die?? This has GOT TO STOP!!!!



No...wait...just illegal aliens trying to invade the country, died from heat. These 50 deaths don't matter. We can't ban guns with this story. Tell the commie Lamestream media they don't have to breathlessly cover this story 24/7 for the next two weeks, with the Marxist pundit clown puppets shedding crocodile tears and pretending to care about children and foaming at the mouth to ban hot trailers or anything.

Far more people die in vehicles from heat than from AR-15s every year. But wE mUsT bAn AR-15s!!!!







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Notice that the lefties have abandoned this thread... talking points are now Roe overturned, the destruction of Democracy and TRRRUUUUUMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL....

This has to set well with the MARXISTS on this board.

Now if they could only figure out how to regulate posts on a message board without being obvious.....LOL
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002

"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
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Werewolf
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BBW12OG said:

Notice that the lefties have abandoned this thread... talking points are now Roe overturned, the destruction of Democracy and TRRRUUUUUMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL....

This has to set well with the MARXISTS on this board.

Now if they could only figure out how to regulate posts on a message board without being obvious.....LOL
in hiding..............only topics with a comfortable paradigm.
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Werewolf said:

BBW12OG said:

Notice that the lefties have abandoned this thread... talking points are now Roe overturned, the destruction of Democracy and TRRRUUUUUMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL....

This has to set well with the MARXISTS on this board.

Now if they could only figure out how to regulate posts on a message board without being obvious.....LOL
in hiding..............only topics with a comfortable paradigm.
Must keep up with the MARXIST talking points......
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002

"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
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How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
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WolfpackHooligan said:

How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
Those people are just confused!
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^^ For me it's simply one of several means to an end. The end being authoritarianism with power and privilege in the hands of a few. It's sold to the masses as a tool towards equality of status, wealth, etc but the real intentions are otherwise. So as the federal government begins to operate outside of the Constitution, we drift towards this Marxist totalitarian state of so-called utopia. The last time I checked I think our military made up half the employees of the Federal Govt and I think the other 1/2 should be cut by 3/4 with much of that 1/4 being border control and immigrations and customs. Federal funds for defense could be secured directly from States in direct proportion to the population of its citizens.

The best GOVT is government that's closest to the people and DC is not that.
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Werewolf said:

^^ For me it's simply one of several means to an end. The end being authoritarianism with power and privilege in the hands of a few. It's sold to the masses as a tool towards equality of status, wealth, etc but the real intentions are otherwise. So as the federal government begins to operate outside of the Constitution, we drift towards this Marxist totalitarian state of so-called utopia. The last time I checked I think our military made up half the employees of the Federal Govt and I think the other 1/2 should be cut by 3/4 with much of that 1/4 being border control and immigrations and customs. Federal funds for defense could be secured directly from States in direct proportion to the population of its citizens.

The best GOVT is government that's closest to the people and DC is not that.

Sounds like you prefer the way this country was designed to be…

For those uniformed, please research the funding of the Federal Government, prior to roughly 1910..
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WolfpackHooligan said:

How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
Well... a simple Civics class could help you or maybe a World History class.

Not my job to educate you. Pretty sure if you have to ask you should probably take one or both of the above. Judging from your tone and question you are limited with your knowledge on history and governments over the last few hundred years.

Good luck with that.
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002

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caryking said:

WolfpackHooligan said:

How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
Those people are just confused!
Confused, but not a Marxist?
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BBW12OG said:

WolfpackHooligan said:

How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
Well... a simple Civics class could help you or maybe a World History class.

Not my job to educate you. Pretty sure if you have to ask you should probably take one or both of the above. Judging from your tone and question you are limited with your knowledge on history and governments over the last few hundred years.

Good luck with that.
I'm not asking for a historical or scholarly agreed upon definition of Marxism, I am asking for yours.
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Good luck man, it's not worth it.
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caryking said:

WolfpackHooligan said:

How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
Those people are just confused!

Not confused at all.

Bipartisan political platforms mandate philosophical divides within parties.

It defies logic and reality that you'd have full ideological coherence within a party on issues as diverse as abortion, gun control, death penalty, infrastructure, healthcare, and on and on.
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Werewolf
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^^ U guys simply don't get it. Oblivious to what's underway.

"Government by the people for the people"..............but you're paradigm of adulthood has been framed for you over the last 50-60 years such that its "Government by the government for the people".......which spells tyranny in the end. This is my "seat of the pants" phrase essentially meaning we as a citizenry have lost touch with our government.......particularly with our federal government but also with our states, our counties, cities and our school boards. The evidence is actually there.............however the Mockingbird media only parrots a narrative of division and falsehoods. I suspect both of you guys would deny this exists. Social media too.........but I doubt seriously that either of you have been censored a single time. You freely parrot the narratives laid out before you.

Our Republic requires no only an informed electorate but also a moral fabric. We've lost both and its not going to be an easy or quick fix. What will be required is a very painful and exhausting fix. You're not even experiencing the real pain yet.
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Werewolf said:

^^ U guys simply don't get it. Oblivious to what's underway.

"Government by the people for the people"..............but you're paradigm of adulthood has been framed for you over the last 50-60 years such that its "Government by the government for the people".......which spells tyranny in the end. This is my "seat of the pants" phrase essentially meaning we as a citizenry have lost touch with our government.......particularly with our federal government but also with our states, our counties, cities and our school boards. The evidence is actually there.............however the Mockingbird media only parrots a narrative of division and falsehoods. I suspect both of you guys would deny this exists. Social media too.........but I doubt seriously that either of you have been censored a single time. You freely parrot the narratives laid out before you.

Our Republic requires no only an informed electorate but also a moral fabric. We've lost both and its not going to be an easy or quick fix. What will be required is a very painful and exhausting fix. You're not even experiencing the real pain yet.
I think governmental bloat is one of the largest issues we are facing and I personally am in favor of smaller government and economic principals more in line with Adam Smith's than those of Marx. I agree that mainstream media drives division and is designed to do so based on our modern model of viewership leading to increased profits. Hate drives views and a message of unity drives away views. I think everyone should be free to express themselves without censorship and that open dialogue regarding issues is paramount to moving forward as a society.

A moral electorate is also crucial to moving forward, but it is important not to conflate religious values with morality. Morality exists independent of religion and the Establishment Clause is evidence that the founding fathers wanted each person to pursue their religious beliefs unfeterred by government and sought to have a society where one could not impose their beliefs on another. Thomas Jefferson's writing regarding the Establishment Clause support this notion.

What I am trying to do is stimulate debate on the issues and not have the conversation devolve into ad hominem attacks on one another whether that be gun humper, racist, Marxist, commie, libtard, or whichever insult one side hurls at the other. The use of these characterizations cheapens one's own arguments and detracts from their viability while driving the divisiveness you claim to oppose.

It is possible for people to believe in both laissez-faire economics and be pro-choice. It is possible to be supportive of the Second Amendment and support gay marriage. One can support the legalization of marijuana or other drugs and want stronger borders. To ignore those viewpoints and not recognize nuance within political debate is growing obstacle among Americans that needs to be corrected.

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Civilized said:

caryking said:

WolfpackHooligan said:

How many leftist ideals must one believe in to be a Marxist? For example, if a person is pro-choice but also pro-gun do they fall within your definition of a Marxist? What about a fiscal conservative who supports gay marriage?
Those people are just confused!

Not confused at all.

Bipartisan political platforms mandate philosophical divides within parties.

It defies logic and reality that you'd have full ideological coherence within a party on issues as diverse as abortion, gun control, death penalty, infrastructure, healthcare, and on and on.
  • Abortion - Pro-Life
  • Gun Control - 2nd Amendment supporter 100%
  • Death Penalty - I do struggle with taking the life of another and the state rectifying crime. I have friends that see the difference, biblically between corporal punishment and crime based murder.
  • Infrastructure - This one needs more definition
  • Healthcare - Not a government role!
  • and on and on - well, tell us some more and I will comment...

How did I do from a logical, reality, and ideological standpoint?
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  • Abortion - Pro-Life but allowed for rape and incest, etc in the 1st 90 days
  • Gun Control - 2nd Amendment supporter 100%, legislated at State and Local level, if at all
  • Death Penalty - Favor for crimes against humanity and high treason. I support hanging, firing squad.
  • Infrastructure - There are issues with air and water quality and coordination with interstate travel. A coordination board with authority would be necessary.......if I understand you correctly.
  • Healthcare - Not a government role!
  • Education - private or state/local only
  • Border, Customs- federal
  • Defense -federal but also strong state NG's.
  • Intelligence - a rotated core group and supplemented every few years from each state (tricky one for sure)

Good post!

We have a 4th branch of corrupted federal govt.........essentially an independent long-standing bureaucracy which some refer to as the "administrative state". Career bureaucrats are a huge problem. Need to max out service at 10 years or so with some sort of retirement. Plenty of people retire 2 and 3 times these days with 2 and 3 pensions.

I also advocate for some level of public service for all youth. It can be border patrol, military, foreign service such as the Peace Corps. It could offset the educational and job training expenses of our youth.
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I've seen the light....guns are scary weapons of war that must be banned. Only the government should have guns. Turn in your guns so that pedo Joe can give them to Ukraine and the Taliban, and your ammunition so he can give it to DHS and the IRS.

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Public schools throughout the state will undergo unannounced tests for weak entry points that active shooters could potentially exploit. The Texas School Safety Center plans to subject all school districts and 75 percent of campuses to these "random intruder detection audits" by the end of the school year, the Texas Tribune reported.

"Your team should begin conducting in-person, unannounced, random intruder detection audits on school districts," Governor Greg Abbott wrote in a letter to the center last month ordering the safety checks. "Staff should approach campuses to find weak points and how quickly they can penetrate buildings without being stopped."

At a quarterly meeting in June, Kathy Martinez-Prather, the center's executive director, assured a group of school safety officials appointed by Abbott that the tests would not be "simulation intruder assessments" that would involve creating a potentially traumatic or triggering situation for students and staff.

"[It will be like] you and me going out there, just like a normal parent would, and ensuring that school districts keep external threats out," she said, the Texas Tribune noted.

The local police, but not the specific school, will be notified when the test is to be conducted, she added.
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GuerrillaPack said:

I've seen the light....guns are scary weapons of war that must be banned. Only the government should have guns. Turn in your guns so that pedo Joe can give them to Ukraine and the Taliban, and your ammunition so he can give it to DHS and the IRS.


Yeah, but since it's government OF, BY, and for the people of the Inside Pack Sports community, I'm legally eligible and would be happy to take yours off your hands. Just let me know.
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statefan91 said:


The Supe was probably busy at the Doughnut Palace. Yes, there is such a place in Uvalde, and no, don't try to access their website or you'll get all kinds of scary warnings from Apple security and who knows what kind of malware. Which is why I didn't provide the link.
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Thankfully that one cop standing there got his hands nice and sanitized, he may have gotten covid!

These videos comes out and you dont hear as much from the "only cops should have guns" crowd. And the last two shooters were known to law enforcement (red flags laws dont solve it). Stay armed stay safe.
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High Travoltage said:

Thankfully that one cop standing there got his hands nice and sanitized, he may have gotten covid!

These videos comes out and you dont hear as much from the "only cops should have guns" crowd. And the last two shooters were known to law enforcement (red flags laws dont solve it). Stay armed stay safe.
That's an interesting take. You probably hear less from the "only cops should have guns" crowd because they're also trying to figure out why people have easy access to guns that cops are terrified of so much that they'd like children get slaughtered than confront a gunman.
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Here is a video from the Uvalde school cameras. It over an hour and 20 minutes and they did nothing. I have not watched and will not watch, but the police stood by while this idiot murdered many children and would not enter the classroom. Those kids were betrayed by the people who were supposed to protect them. If that had been my child and they had done nothing, then it would have been open season on every one of those police officers. Just because you had orders to stand down doesn't mean you follow those orders. This is just despicable and every one of the officers should be charged.



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You might be a libertarian. If so, I recommend voting Republican as the lesser of two evils, by a long shot. Democrats want to take away ALL of your liberties. Some Republicans want to take away a few liberties. Some are more libertarian.
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Here is a video from the Uvalde school cameras. It over an hour and 20 minutes and they did nothing. I have not watched and will not watch, but the police stood by while this idiot murdered many children and would not enter the classroom. Those kids were betrayed by the people who were supposed to protect them. If that had been my child and they had done nothing, then it would have been open season on every one of those police officers. Just because you had orders to stand down doesn't mean you follow those orders. This is just despicable and every one of the officers should be charged.

If a military mission failed because soldiers, following orders from their superiors, didn't engage we'd blame the leadership not the rank and file soldiers and I don't think this is much different.

I don't think we're better off in the aggregate with a military or police force that operates with soldiers and policemen that go rogue and disobey lawful orders because they think they know better than their superior officers.

The failure was one of leadership. Whoever gave the stand-down order to his staff made a grievous mistake and should be held accountable.
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statefan91 said:

High Travoltage said:

Thankfully that one cop standing there got his hands nice and sanitized, he may have gotten covid!

These videos comes out and you dont hear as much from the "only cops should have guns" crowd. And the last two shooters were known to law enforcement (red flags laws dont solve it). Stay armed stay safe.
That's an interesting take. You probably hear less from the "only cops should have guns" crowd because they're also trying to figure out why people have easy access to guns that cops are terrified of so much that they'd like children get slaughtered than confront a gunman.


Interesting take you think police are only scared of certain guns.
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packgrad said:

statefan91 said:

High Travoltage said:

Thankfully that one cop standing there got his hands nice and sanitized, he may have gotten covid!

These videos comes out and you dont hear as much from the "only cops should have guns" crowd. And the last two shooters were known to law enforcement (red flags laws dont solve it). Stay armed stay safe.
That's an interesting take. You probably hear less from the "only cops should have guns" crowd because they're also trying to figure out why people have easy access to guns that cops are terrified of so much that they'd like children get slaughtered than confront a gunman.


Interesting take you think police are only scared of certain guns.
What do you expect him to say? That dude is always moving the goalposts to fit his woke, liberal narrative...
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TheStorm said:

packgrad said:


Interesting take you think police are only scared of certain guns.
What do you expect him to say? That dude is always moving the goalposts to fit his woke, liberal narrative...
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