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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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packgrad said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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No, they have people assaulting with knives and dump trucks and any of a number of things they can come up with. Do you remember the TEC 9? It was a semi automatic weapon that was glorified in many a rap song I used to listen to back in the day. In fact it was used in the Columbine shooting. It was also part of the famous assault weapons ban that everyone points to. And to you know what happened, along came the AR 15. The current poster child for evil weapons.

I've said that I agree with red flag laws. Some of which are airway in place I've said I agree with a agree raise on these weapons. But, you're missing the point on the gun ban. The weapon doesn't matter no matter how much you kick and scream that it does. They will find another and another.

Start enforcing the laws that are already on the books. Stop looking the other way because they are minors, or not giving a crap because they're in poor areas. Stop letting repeat offenders out repeatedly. These seem like simple things that can turn the tide of all of this. But, if you feel better because of a silly ban, I don't know what to tell you. Good luck with that!

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Weird....so everything is to blame except for the device that is used consistently in these types of shootings. The weapon that isn't available in other countries, where these things don't occur (or are very very rare exceptions)
But don't look at the weapon.

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Does the weapon shoot by itself?

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Got it...so its convenient to not discuss why this is unique to us, when clearly disturbed people are not unique to us, even though the argument is "its the disturbed people".
How convenient!

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Like usual, you misrepresent someone's argument. You are so incredibly ignorant on the topic though, it's literally all you have.

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Hmmmm, wonder why he replied "how truthful". Crazy.

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I I'll answer that. Because it's the truth that you fail to recognize. Pretty straight forward. When I was a kid and threw a rock and broke a window, "It was the rock's fault" didn't work.

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OK. Silly.
Here is the bottom line

We have tons of guns easily available.
Most countries do not
People are crazy and mean everywhere (name a place that doesn't watch violent US made movies or video games or whatever else is supposed to effect kids)
The US is unique in having schools and businesses shot up.

There is one thing that is unique there. You can say its not the guns just like it wasnt your silly rock story. But it was most certainly the access to guns that have enabled these.
Access that we have proven not to be able to regulate.

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You can call whatever example silly you want to. It makes you happy I guess. The premise is right in point. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

You keep making reference to other countries. Apples to oranges! Show me another country with a constitution similar to ours and freedoms similar to ours and societal issues like ours. Then maybe we can have a discussion that compares the two. Until then, I stand by my point. No gun pulls its own trigger. Have you ever seen that defense used in court?

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Well since you want to stick with it.....lets assume breaking windows is bad. Its hard to recover glass products, so a loss of a window is life-changing.

So....instead of just being able to grab a rock from your driveway, they were controlled. And Lil' Steve had to go with his father to a local constable to ask permission to be given a rock (I'm gracious, and not even going to make you pay for it). He's mad. He stomps his feet and gets some powerful folks to support him, its a God-given right to have rocks. But...you'll still be able to have them, we just want to make sure everything is kosher.

Because windows are so precious -- i mean, nothing on the order of a human life, but still irreplaceable....they look at your internet, and low and behold, Lil' Steve has thousands of videos of Ernest T Bass throwing rocks thru the windows of Mayberry and has created his own little shrine to breaking windows. He has an Ernest T Bass costume in his closet. He's emailed his friends letting them know he intends to throw rocks at windows.

So by making you wait a couple of days, we've found out your a little devil! We don't need you breaking windows. So why give you an innocent little rock, when you can't handle it appropriately?

OTOH, if you're all clean, and you're in church every week, you carry the neighbor's groceries, and A-B student, etc...nothing to worry about, take these rocks son! Sure, you had to wait a few days, but you still got your rocks!

So....sure, the rock didn't throw itself, its just a dumb little rock, but at least we kept someone who had proven to be incapable of behaving from making his behavior even more egregious.

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Glasswolf said:

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Keep being you my friend

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Ahhh... so a new recruit to team Glass?

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Keep being you my friend

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Ahhh... so a new recruit to team Glass?

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Actually no. He's not new, He's been a member since 2020. I just love the back and forth between you guys. I'm just going to go into troll mode and I don't give a **** mode from here on. On since most of you are on ignore, Well, have a great

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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packgrad said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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No, they have people assaulting with knives and dump trucks and any of a number of things they can come up with. Do you remember the TEC 9? It was a semi automatic weapon that was glorified in many a rap song I used to listen to back in the day. In fact it was used in the Columbine shooting. It was also part of the famous assault weapons ban that everyone points to. And to you know what happened, along came the AR 15. The current poster child for evil weapons.

I've said that I agree with red flag laws. Some of which are airway in place I've said I agree with a agree raise on these weapons. But, you're missing the point on the gun ban. The weapon doesn't matter no matter how much you kick and scream that it does. They will find another and another.

Start enforcing the laws that are already on the books. Stop looking the other way because they are minors, or not giving a crap because they're in poor areas. Stop letting repeat offenders out repeatedly. These seem like simple things that can turn the tide of all of this. But, if you feel better because of a silly ban, I don't know what to tell you. Good luck with that!

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Weird....so everything is to blame except for the device that is used consistently in these types of shootings. The weapon that isn't available in other countries, where these things don't occur (or are very very rare exceptions)
But don't look at the weapon.

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Does the weapon shoot by itself?

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Got it...so its convenient to not discuss why this is unique to us, when clearly disturbed people are not unique to us, even though the argument is "its the disturbed people".
How convenient!

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Like usual, you misrepresent someone's argument. You are so incredibly ignorant on the topic though, it's literally all you have.

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Hmmmm, wonder why he replied "how truthful". Crazy.

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I I'll answer that. Because it's the truth that you fail to recognize. Pretty straight forward. When I was a kid and threw a rock and broke a window, "It was the rock's fault" didn't work.

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OK. Silly.
Here is the bottom line

We have tons of guns easily available.
Most countries do not
People are crazy and mean everywhere (name a place that doesn't watch violent US made movies or video games or whatever else is supposed to effect kids)
The US is unique in having schools and businesses shot up.

There is one thing that is unique there. You can say its not the guns just like it wasnt your silly rock story. But it was most certainly the access to guns that have enabled these.
Access that we have proven not to be able to regulate.

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You can call whatever example silly you want to. It makes you happy I guess. The premise is right in point. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

You keep making reference to other countries. Apples to oranges! Show me another country with a constitution similar to ours and freedoms similar to ours and societal issues like ours. Then maybe we can have a discussion that compares the two. Until then, I stand by my point. No gun pulls its own trigger. Have you ever seen that defense used in court?

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Well since you want to stick with it.....lets assume breaking windows is bad. Its hard to recover glass products, so a loss of a window is life-changing.

So....instead of just being able to grab a rock from your driveway, they were controlled. And Lil' Steve had to go with his father to a local constable to ask permission to be given a rock (I'm gracious, and not even going to make you pay for it). He's mad. He stomps his feet and gets some powerful folks to support him, its a God-given right to have rocks. But...you'll still be able to have them, we just want to make sure everything is kosher.

Because windows are so precious -- i mean, nothing on the order of a human life, but still irreplaceable....they look at your internet, and low and behold, Lil' Steve has thousands of videos of Ernest T Bass throwing rocks thru the windows of Mayberry and has created his own little shrine to breaking windows. He has an Ernest T Bass costume in his closet. He's emailed his friends letting them know he intends to throw rocks at windows.

So by making you wait a couple of days, we've found out your a little devil! We don't need you breaking windows. So why give you an innocent little rock, when you can't handle it appropriately?

OTOH, if you're all clean, and you're in church every week, you carry the neighbor's groceries, and A-B student, etc...nothing to worry about, take these rocks son! Sure, you had to wait a few days, but you still got your rocks!

So....sure, the rock didn't throw itself, its just a dumb little rock, but at least we kept someone who had proven to be incapable of behaving from making his behavior even more egregious.

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You nailed it! Great job, congrats!

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— The New York Times (@nytimes) June 9, 2022

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Be careful......there's a "two tiered" justice system here.... keep that in mind.

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Be careful......there's a "two tiered" justice system here.... keep that in mind.

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What are the two tiers?

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This little muffin… pic.twitter.com/Tz9Gj6NATN

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) June 10, 2022

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Be careful......there's a "two tiered" justice system here.... keep that in mind.

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What are the two tiers?

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Be careful......there's a "two tiered" justice system here.... keep that in mind.

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What are the two tiers?

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Elite's vs Non-Elites - That's a two tiered system
Dems vs Republican's (General statement) - That's a two tiered system

what else?

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Be careful......there's a "two tiered" justice system here.... keep that in mind.

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What are the two tiers?

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Elite's vs Non-Elites - That's a two tiered system
Dems vs Republican's (General statement) - That's a two tiered system

what else?

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The Uvalde school district's police chief, who has faced intense scrutiny in the aftermath of the May tragedy that left 19 teachers and two children dead, is denying that he was designated the on-scene commander during the shooting and that he ordered law-enforcement officers to stand down while the carnage unfolded in the classroom.

However, Arredondo denied to the Texas Tribune that that was his role and that those were his actions. "My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff," he said. He said he never issued direction to other officers on the scene to not attempt to breach the building.

"I didn't issue any orders," Arredondo told the Tribune. "I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door."

On Thursday, the Department of Justice appointed a panel of nine experts to probe the response by Uvalde police officers at the time of the shooting.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/uvalde-schools-police-chief-denies-giving-stand-down-order-being-on-scene-commander-during-shooting/

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The Uvalde school district's police chief, who has faced intense scrutiny in the aftermath of the May tragedy that left 19 teachers and two children dead, is denying that he was designated the on-scene commander during the shooting and that he ordered law-enforcement officers to stand down while the carnage unfolded in the classroom.

However, Arredondo denied to the Texas Tribune that that was his role and that those were his actions. "My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff," he said. He said he never issued direction to other officers on the scene to not attempt to breach the building.

"I didn't issue any orders," Arredondo told the Tribune. "I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door."

On Thursday, the Department of Justice appointed a panel of nine experts to probe the response by Uvalde police officers at the time of the shooting.

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Be careful......there's a "two tiered" justice system here.... keep that in mind.

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What are the two tiers?

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Elite's vs Non-Elites - That's a two tiered system
Dems vs Republican's (General statement) - That's a two tiered system

what else?

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IPS moderators are elites vs. non-elites or D vs R?

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/uvalde-schools-police-chief-denies-giving-stand-down-order-being-on-scene-commander-during-shooting/

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The Uvalde school district's police chief, who has faced intense scrutiny in the aftermath of the May tragedy that left 19 teachers and two children dead, is denying that he was designated the on-scene commander during the shooting and that he ordered law-enforcement officers to stand down while the carnage unfolded in the classroom.

However, Arredondo denied to the Texas Tribune that that was his role and that those were his actions. "My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff," he said. He said he never issued direction to other officers on the scene to not attempt to breach the building.

"I didn't issue any orders," Arredondo told the Tribune. "I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door."

On Thursday, the Department of Justice appointed a panel of nine experts to probe the response by Uvalde police officers at the time of the shooting.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/uvalde-schools-police-chief-denies-giving-stand-down-order-being-on-scene-commander-during-shooting/

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The Uvalde school district's police chief, who has faced intense scrutiny in the aftermath of the May tragedy that left 19 teachers and two children dead, is denying that he was designated the on-scene commander during the shooting and that he ordered law-enforcement officers to stand down while the carnage unfolded in the classroom.

However, Arredondo denied to the Texas Tribune that that was his role and that those were his actions. "My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff," he said. He said he never issued direction to other officers on the scene to not attempt to breach the building.

"I didn't issue any orders," Arredondo told the Tribune. "I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door."

On Thursday, the Department of Justice appointed a panel of nine experts to probe the response by Uvalde police officers at the time of the shooting.

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The guy has gotten more negative publicity and has had his name mentioned more than the actual killer....so its not shocking he'd turn to the "it wasn't me" response.

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caryking said:

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/uvalde-schools-police-chief-denies-giving-stand-down-order-being-on-scene-commander-during-shooting/

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The Uvalde school district's police chief, who has faced intense scrutiny in the aftermath of the May tragedy that left 19 teachers and two children dead, is denying that he was designated the on-scene commander during the shooting and that he ordered law-enforcement officers to stand down while the carnage unfolded in the classroom.

However, Arredondo denied to the Texas Tribune that that was his role and that those were his actions. "My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff," he said. He said he never issued direction to other officers on the scene to not attempt to breach the building.

"I didn't issue any orders," Arredondo told the Tribune. "I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door."

On Thursday, the Department of Justice appointed a panel of nine experts to probe the response by Uvalde police officers at the time of the shooting.

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The guy has gotten more negative publicity and has had his name mentioned more than the actual killer....so its not shocking he'd turn to the "it wasn't me" response.

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I agree, if its true... If not, then this might end bad for him. AG Paxton needs to investigate.

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Packchem91 said:

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/uvalde-schools-police-chief-denies-giving-stand-down-order-being-on-scene-commander-during-shooting/

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The Uvalde school district's police chief, who has faced intense scrutiny in the aftermath of the May tragedy that left 19 teachers and two children dead, is denying that he was designated the on-scene commander during the shooting and that he ordered law-enforcement officers to stand down while the carnage unfolded in the classroom.

However, Arredondo denied to the Texas Tribune that that was his role and that those were his actions. "My mind was to get there as fast as possible, eliminate any threats, and protect the students and staff," he said. He said he never issued direction to other officers on the scene to not attempt to breach the building.

"I didn't issue any orders," Arredondo told the Tribune. "I called for assistance and asked for an extraction tool to open the door."

On Thursday, the Department of Justice appointed a panel of nine experts to probe the response by Uvalde police officers at the time of the shooting.

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The guy has gotten more negative publicity and has had his name mentioned more than the actual killer....so its not shocking he'd turn to the "it wasn't me" response.

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I agree, if its true... If not, then this might end bad for him. AG Paxton needs to investigate.

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Oh I believe he really screwed up. But yes, regardless of who was at fault for the delayed reaction, someone independent needs to investigate.

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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One wonders if the Feds will bother enforcing any of these laws.

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BBW12OG said:

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I think we have accidentally found out who Chem really is....

This little muffin… pic.twitter.com/Tz9Gj6NATN

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) June 10, 2022

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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One wonders if the Feds will bother enforcing any of these laws.

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Seems like it will really depend on the locals and states, like the one we saw in FL. But even then, still will require others to cooperate and report things. Meaning, IF a waiting periods in TX because this kid was 18 wouldn't have turned up his internet issues or other such flags, what good would it have been?

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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PackFansXL said:

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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One wonders if the Feds will bother enforcing any of these laws.

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Seems like it will really depend on the locals and states, like the one we saw in FL. But even then, still will require others to cooperate and report things. Meaning, IF a waiting periods in TX because this kid was 18 wouldn't have turned up his internet issues or other such flags, what good would it have been?

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I think it goes back to the locals enforcing the laws that are on the books, and communities not passing things off as, "oh, he's just a kid." If things were reported and handled properly with the Uvalde shooter, he probably wouldn't have gotten the weapons he did.

New legislation is fine, now follow through or we'll just have more of the same. I hope it makes a change.

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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One wonders if the Feds will bother enforcing any of these laws.

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Seems like it will really depend on the locals and states, like the one we saw in FL. But even then, still will require others to cooperate and report things. Meaning, IF a waiting periods in TX because this kid was 18 wouldn't have turned up his internet issues or other such flags, what good would it have been?

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I think it goes back to the locals enforcing the laws that are on the books, and communities not passing things off as, "oh, he's just a kid." If things were reported and handled properly with the Uvalde shooter, he probably wouldn't have gotten the weapons he did.

New legislation is fine, now follow through or we'll just have more of the same. I hope it makes a change.

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So what I'm interested in is how aggressive this waiting period is. Do they do an internet search on the person and see what types of groups they are in? Or if they've posted messages about hating group x or school or this person, etc....or homage to one who has done this crap before?

As I understand, pretty quick internet search found that both the Buffalo and Uvalde killers had warning signs on the internet....would any waiting period pursue those, or will it be wholly dependent on legal/medical/school reported issues?

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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One wonders if the Feds will bother enforcing any of these laws.

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Seems like it will really depend on the locals and states, like the one we saw in FL. But even then, still will require others to cooperate and report things. Meaning, IF a waiting periods in TX because this kid was 18 wouldn't have turned up his internet issues or other such flags, what good would it have been?

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I think it goes back to the locals enforcing the laws that are on the books, and communities not passing things off as, "oh, he's just a kid." If things were reported and handled properly with the Uvalde shooter, he probably wouldn't have gotten the weapons he did.

New legislation is fine, now follow through or we'll just have more of the same. I hope it makes a change.

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So what I'm interested in is how aggressive this waiting period is. Do they do an internet search on the person and see what types of groups they are in? Or if they've posted messages about hating group x or school or this person, etc....or homage to one who has done this crap before?

As I understand, pretty quick internet search found that both the Buffalo and Uvalde killers had warning signs on the internet....would any waiting period pursue those, or will it be wholly dependent on legal/medical/school reported issues?

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With all the stuff being monitored on social media in the last few years, could they not put red flags in place that is reported to some site. That way there is something of record, so that when somebody goes to purchase a gun, the waiting period allows these things to be looked into by the proper authorities? I would be okay with that.

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Packchem91 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Packchem91 said:

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A bipartisan coalition of senators on Sunday reportedly reached an agreement on gun legislation, encompassing gun trafficking, enhanced background checks, funding for mental health and school safety, and other items.

The framework includes funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, known as red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to confiscate weapons from people deemed dangerous, Murphy noted.

The package would also allocate "billions in new funding for mental health and school safety," he said, "including money for the national build out of community mental health clinics."

It also targets the "boyfriend loophole," the closing of which would prevent violent spouses or domestic abusers from acquiring a firearm if they are convicted of abuse against their partner.

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One wonders if the Feds will bother enforcing any of these laws.

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Seems like it will really depend on the locals and states, like the one we saw in FL. But even then, still will require others to cooperate and report things. Meaning, IF a waiting periods in TX because this kid was 18 wouldn't have turned up his internet issues or other such flags, what good would it have been?

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I think it goes back to the locals enforcing the laws that are on the books, and communities not passing things off as, "oh, he's just a kid." If things were reported and handled properly with the Uvalde shooter, he probably wouldn't have gotten the weapons he did.

New legislation is fine, now follow through or we'll just have more of the same. I hope it makes a change.

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So what I'm interested in is how aggressive this waiting period is. Do they do an internet search on the person and see what types of groups they are in? Or if they've posted messages about hating group x or school or this person, etc....or homage to one who has done this crap before?

As I understand, pretty quick internet search found that both the Buffalo and Uvalde killers had warning signs on the internet....would any waiting period pursue those, or will it be wholly dependent on legal/medical/school reported issues?

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With all the stuff being monitored on social media in the last few years, could they not put red flags in place that is reported to some site. That way there is something of record, so that when somebody goes to purchase a gun, the waiting period allows these things to be looked into by the proper authorities? I would be okay with that.

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And for me...that shouldn't be limited to 18-21. If a 40 YO man loses his job and decides it was because _____ caused it, and posts some very damning comments on SM about how he hates that group ____ caused him to be fired. Then decides he's going to go get a gun and shoot up the old business (this seems to be a regular theme in these cases), why shouldn't he get flagged as well?

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BBW12OG said:

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I think we have accidentally found out who Chem really is....

This little muffin… pic.twitter.com/Tz9Gj6NATN

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) June 10, 2022

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Good grief, this guy must wear lace underpants. He got bruised from the recoil of what is basically a .22? He'd lose his shoulder from a .12 gauge or a .460 Weatherby. And I'm no psychologist but is there any such thing as "temporary" PTSD?

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Ohio governor Mike DeWine signed a bill on Monday to allow school employees to carry guns on school property.

The law requires employees who wish to come to school armed to complete 24 hours of training in programs approved by the Ohio School Safety Center. Additionally, the bill requires eight hours of annual training for approved employees. School districts may choose not to allow armed employees if they wish under the new law."

This does not require any school to arm teachers or staff," DeWine said at a press conference on Monday after signing the law. "Every school will make its own decision."

The bill also allocates funds for mental-health programs and other school-safety measures.

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PackFansXL said:

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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ohio-governor-signs-bill-allowing-school-employees-to-carry-guns/

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Ohio governor Mike DeWine signed a bill on Monday to allow school employees to carry guns on school property.

The law requires employees who wish to come to school armed to complete 24 hours of training in programs approved by the Ohio School Safety Center. Additionally, the bill requires eight hours of annual training for approved employees. School districts may choose not to allow armed employees if they wish under the new law."

This does not require any school to arm teachers or staff," DeWine said at a press conference on Monday after signing the law. "Every school will make its own decision."

The bill also allocates funds for mental-health programs and other school-safety measures.

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Interestingly, Ohio's Democratic gubernatorial candidate believes this new law makes Ohio less safe.

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