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As someone that has both donated to the renovation project and contributes to baseball NIL, I would be very pissed if they took my money donated for facilities and used in for NIL. That money was earmarked for a specific purpose, it would be fraudulent, and perhaps criminally so, to use it for something else. If you want them to give all the money back to the donors and then let the donors choose to put it into NIL, fine. Logistical nightmare considering the project has already begun, but fine. You can't take money given for one thing and use it for another.James Henderson said:
I'd personally be trying to find a way to turn whatever projected facilities funds into NIL funds. Not all, but certainly some.
That would help win more IMO.
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I don't think State is ever going to beat out LSU for a kid if LSU really wants him but they shouldn't have to either. No reason they can't find a guy at a lower level that smashed and wasn't offered by one of the bigger schools with money. A guy like Pennington last year is a good example. Hart went after high end unproven talent last year and it didn't work out, I'd imagine the strategy this year is different.StateFan2001 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
I think you saw this year there is a ceiling with the type of lineup you are going to be able to out together without appropriate financial resources. You are going to continue to lack in power and probably will struggle to get and keep high end arms.
We need to be able to compete for a guy in our own backyard like the kid from HPU that is going to the SEC. We need to be able to get a guy like Cam Bagwell from UNCW. As we move forward will we be able to compete for power bats and high end arms or relegated to the diamond in the rough? We will see soon enough.
One of the guys from 1pack had said they reached out to Avent about doing a preseason event like they do for basketball and football and there wasn't interest there (paraphrasing from memory), which is sorta turning away NIL funding.
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Yep, I'm sure a lot of people would be upset. Some may be fine with it if they knew it landed a player capable of getting State over the hump.wilmwolf said:As someone that has both donated to the renovation project and contributes to baseball NIL, I would be very pissed if they took my money donated for facilities and used in for NIL. That money was earmarked for a specific purpose, it would be fraudulent, and perhaps criminally so, to use it for something else. If you want them to give all the money back to the donors and then let the donors choose to put it into NIL, fine. Logistical nightmare considering the project has already begun, but fine. You can't take money given for one thing and use it for another.James Henderson said:
I'd personally be trying to find a way to turn whatever projected facilities funds into NIL funds. Not all, but certainly some.
That would help win more IMO.
As with all things with life, probably won't please everyone.
But for me I was also stating projected, so cash being raised down the road.
Ugh
Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
I think a bigger factor is how many of the 34 rostered players are you going to give a full scholarship to. If most SEC schools give everyone a full ride that makes a difference. If Clemson, Fla St., Carolina give full rides to most of the 34 then State needs to try to get close. Thats were you will lose a lot of these guys. Maybe some are willing to come play and not get sn extra $25k in NIL. But getting your education totally paid for might be a really big deal.
Agree
Yea that will be interesting to follow, not sure you really need full 34 to let 10-12 guys to never see the field but I get your point. Guys will still want to play as well even with the full 34.wbkook said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
I think a bigger factor is how many of the 34 rostered players are you going to give a full scholarship to. If most SEC schools give everyone a full ride that makes a difference. If Clemson, Fla St., Carolina give full rides to most of the 34 then State needs to try to get close. Thats were you will lose a lot of these guys. Maybe some are willing to come play and not get sn extra $25k in NIL. But getting your education totally paid for might be a really big deal.
I spoke with a guy who is on the board at ECU earlier this year and he said they currently fund the full 11.5 but wasn't sure they could get anywhere close to the 34, thought it would be more like 15.
Jtilley said:Yea that will be interesting to follow, not sure you really need full 34 to let 10-12 guys to never see the field but I get your point. Guys will still want to play as well even with the full 34.wbkook said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
I think a bigger factor is how many of the 34 rostered players are you going to give a full scholarship to. If most SEC schools give everyone a full ride that makes a difference. If Clemson, Fla St., Carolina give full rides to most of the 34 then State needs to try to get close. Thats were you will lose a lot of these guys. Maybe some are willing to come play and not get sn extra $25k in NIL. But getting your education totally paid for might be a really big deal.
Just wonder the breakdown and its effects. Give 15-16 guys full ride. Then you can split up the back 18 with 9 ships that you split in half giving those kids at least partials. You can get creative if need be. But I think it might matter more to keeping players. If a kid isn't on a scholarship or on partial and UNCG is willing to give the kid a full ride then you have a good chance of loosing them.
Just using Woodson as an example (not saying this is actually why but as a hypothetical) say he blew up in last 3 games. Small sample size so coaching staff not ready to commit to giving full ride or playing time. Woodson or any player in his position might figure go into portal and hope another college is willing to at least give him a full ride. Again just using Woodson as example zero idea why he entered. Coaches in this new day are going to need to get creative not only with NIL but how many scholarships they will have and how they will use them.
Bristol Carter at ECU last year was freshman all American who damn near hit .350. Enters the portal at the end of the year, transfers to Auburn, hits .235 and is benched down the stretch. Does he stay at Auburn and ride the pine on a full scholarship next year or does he go get a half scholarship to go be the starter somewhere?wbkook said:Jtilley said:Yea that will be interesting to follow, not sure you really need full 34 to let 10-12 guys to never see the field but I get your point. Guys will still want to play as well even with the full 34.wbkook said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
I think a bigger factor is how many of the 34 rostered players are you going to give a full scholarship to. If most SEC schools give everyone a full ride that makes a difference. If Clemson, Fla St., Carolina give full rides to most of the 34 then State needs to try to get close. Thats were you will lose a lot of these guys. Maybe some are willing to come play and not get sn extra $25k in NIL. But getting your education totally paid for might be a really big deal.
Just wonder the breakdown and its effects. Give 15-16 guys full ride. Then you can split up the back 18 with 9 ships that you split in half giving those kids at least partials. You can get creative if need be. But I think it might matter more to keeping players. If a kid isn't on a scholarship or on partial and UNCG is willing to give the kid a full ride then you have a good chance of loosing them.
Just using Woodson as an example (not saying this is actually why but as a hypothetical) say he blew up in last 3 games. Small sample size so coaching staff not ready to commit to giving full ride or playing time. Woodson or any player in his position might figure go into portal and hope another college is willing to at least give him a full ride. Again just using Woodson as example zero idea why he entered. Coaches in this new day are going to need to get creative not only with NIL but how many scholarships they will have and how they will use them.
I highly doubt majority of programs outside of the power 2 and other bigger programs will come close to fielding 30 scholarships for baseball, majority of them don't have the money.
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
Ty Allen just followed Avent from Belmont
Gost8 said:
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
They should hire a good coach then bc we swept them and We sucked
cmball3 said:
One of the guys from 1pack had said they reached out to Avent about doing a preseason event like they do for basketball and football and there wasn't interest there (paraphrasing from memory), which is sorta turning away NIL funding.
I'm an Avent fan, but that's idiotic if true. He should go then. I need some real proof
Pack31 said:Gost8 said:
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
They should hire a good coach then bc we swept them and We sucked
CLTWolf said:Pack31 said:Gost8 said:
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
They should hire a good coach then bc we swept them and We sucked
Yepper. They fully support their program and supposedly we don't and we spanked them reg season. They should hire Avent. With $ he's a weiner!!!
Im serious clark
no, saying we sucked this year was a hot take of 2001/M_A levels and I know you're better than that brother! hahaPack31 said:CLTWolf said:Pack31 said:Gost8 said:
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
They should hire a good coach then bc we swept them and We sucked
Yepper. They fully support their program and supposedly we don't and we spanked them reg season. They should hire Avent. With $ he's a weiner!!!
Im serious clark
Hahaha
I would legit just hire 2-3 nerds, pay them 25K each, put them all in a closet in the back and have them Moneyballing/mining spreadsheets/running models all day to fill out the rest of the roster.
One would have to wonder why a coach would not have interest in something that could only help his team....hmmmmcmball3 said:
One of the guys from 1pack had said they reached out to Avent about doing a preseason event like they do for basketball and football and there wasn't interest there (paraphrasing from memory), which is sorta turning away NIL funding.
Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
All I'm saying is I would try to get both sides of the story before making a judgement,
Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
No, I don't think they lied at all. I believe that Avent did not have interest in the event, My question is, why?CLTWolf said:Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
I asked those guys and they said they didn't know. Which, in my opinion, if I was them, I sure as hell would want to know why the baseball coach didn't want to do an event with me to raise money for his team.
I guess I'm just saying, as a member of 1P, I don't need to know why Avent didn't want to do the thing, but I sure think they should know.
If they know and just don't want to say, for whatever reason, I respect that. But that's not what they said.
I would be fine if what I donated toward the project went into NIL funding in any circumstance that helped fill out next year's roster.
But given how little the department has actually communicated what's gone on with the status of that project - and given how fundraising NIL for baseball has seemed much more quiet / behind closed doors for the last 1+ years aside from the first pitch raffle, no one's doing a great job of convincing the fanbase at large to give $ to baseball at this point no matter the purpose.
But given how little the department has actually communicated what's gone on with the status of that project - and given how fundraising NIL for baseball has seemed much more quiet / behind closed doors for the last 1+ years aside from the first pitch raffle, no one's doing a great job of convincing the fanbase at large to give $ to baseball at this point no matter the purpose.
Ncstatefan01 said:No, I don't think they lied at all. I believe that Avent did not have interest in the event, My question is, why?CLTWolf said:Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
I asked those guys and they said they didn't know. Which, in my opinion, if I was them, I sure as hell would want to know why the baseball coach didn't want to do an event with me to raise money for his team.
I guess I'm just saying, as a member of 1P, I don't need to know why Avent didn't want to do the thing, but I sure think they should know.
If they know and just don't want to say, for whatever reason, I respect that. But that's not what they said.
Do you expect them to tell you everything they know? Sometimes it's better to just say "I don't know".
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Well, they could say "we got some feedback from coach that out of respect for him will stay between us" or "yes, we understand why but we arent at liberty to share" and that would be just fine.cmball3 said:Ncstatefan01 said:No, I don't think they lied at all. I believe that Avent did not have interest in the event, My question is, why?CLTWolf said:Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
I asked those guys and they said they didn't know. Which, in my opinion, if I was them, I sure as hell would want to know why the baseball coach didn't want to do an event with me to raise money for his team.
I guess I'm just saying, as a member of 1P, I don't need to know why Avent didn't want to do the thing, but I sure think they should know.
If they know and just don't want to say, for whatever reason, I respect that. But that's not what they said.
Do you expect them to tell you everything they know? Sometimes it's better to just say "I don't know".
If they say they "don't know" then I am going to take them at their word and believe that they do not know. They usually are pretty straight up with us here.
CLTWolf said:no, saying we sucked this year was a hot take of 2001/M_A levels and I know you're better than that brother! hahaPack31 said:CLTWolf said:Pack31 said:Gost8 said:
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
They should hire a good coach then bc we swept them and We sucked
Yepper. They fully support their program and supposedly we don't and we spanked them reg season. They should hire Avent. With $ he's a weiner!!!
Im serious clark
It was sarcasm brother. I've read that on here all season.
My point is Avent does what he does with much less support. Wonder what he could do with Clemsons budget?
Pack31 said:CLTWolf said:no, saying we sucked this year was a hot take of 2001/M_A levels and I know you're better than that brother! hahaPack31 said:CLTWolf said:Pack31 said:Gost8 said:
I heard an interview with the Clemson coach , says he and the athletic dept both plan on giving 34.
They should hire a good coach then bc we swept them and We sucked
Yepper. They fully support their program and supposedly we don't and we spanked them reg season. They should hire Avent. With $ he's a weiner!!!
Im serious clark
It was sarcasm brother. I've read that on here all season.
My point is Avent does what he does with much less support. Wonder what he could do with Clemsons budget?
Poor ole Elliot.
Um Hart lol
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Ncstatefan01 said:Well, they could say "we got some feedback from coach that out of respect for him will stay between us" or "yes, we understand why but we arent at liberty to share" and that would be just fine.cmball3 said:Ncstatefan01 said:No, I don't think they lied at all. I believe that Avent did not have interest in the event, My question is, why?CLTWolf said:Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
I asked those guys and they said they didn't know. Which, in my opinion, if I was them, I sure as hell would want to know why the baseball coach didn't want to do an event with me to raise money for his team.
I guess I'm just saying, as a member of 1P, I don't need to know why Avent didn't want to do the thing, but I sure think they should know.
If they know and just don't want to say, for whatever reason, I respect that. But that's not what they said.
Do you expect them to tell you everything they know? Sometimes it's better to just say "I don't know".
If they say they "don't know" then I am going to take them at their word and believe that they do not know. They usually are pretty straight up with us here.
No offense intended here but they don't owe you or any of us that statement.
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Agree. I'm paraphrasing here but the IPack folks said that there was basically zero interest from the baseball staff to do anything.cmball3 said:Ncstatefan01 said:Well, they could say "we got some feedback from coach that out of respect for him will stay between us" or "yes, we understand why but we arent at liberty to share" and that would be just fine.cmball3 said:Ncstatefan01 said:No, I don't think they lied at all. I believe that Avent did not have interest in the event, My question is, why?CLTWolf said:Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
I asked those guys and they said they didn't know. Which, in my opinion, if I was them, I sure as hell would want to know why the baseball coach didn't want to do an event with me to raise money for his team.
I guess I'm just saying, as a member of 1P, I don't need to know why Avent didn't want to do the thing, but I sure think they should know.
If they know and just don't want to say, for whatever reason, I respect that. But that's not what they said.
Do you expect them to tell you everything they know? Sometimes it's better to just say "I don't know".
If they say they "don't know" then I am going to take them at their word and believe that they do not know. They usually are pretty straight up with us here.
No offense intended here but they don't owe you or any of us that statement.
I think some people can't read here.ncsupack1 said:Agree. I'm paraphrasing here but the IPack folks said that there was basically zero interest from the baseball staff to do anything.cmball3 said:Ncstatefan01 said:Well, they could say "we got some feedback from coach that out of respect for him will stay between us" or "yes, we understand why but we arent at liberty to share" and that would be just fine.cmball3 said:Ncstatefan01 said:No, I don't think they lied at all. I believe that Avent did not have interest in the event, My question is, why?CLTWolf said:Do you think Steve or Reid lied about it? What are we doing here? lolNcstatefan01 said:Did he? How do you know that? If true, why would he do that?cmball3 said:He kinda did when he turned down 1pack for setting up a meet the team/team dinner and auction event TBFNcstatefan01 said:Jtilley said:I have been thinking about this some and this isn't just me trying to knock you or anyone else with the NIL/Scholarship deal but I really don't think there are that many teams doing it.StateFan2001 said:
Good grief. Going to be starting over here. I suspect we will be a year behind the curve on the new baseball lamdsxape with rev share and NIL and scholarship numbers. Next year might be rough.
Baseball is now basically a two power confrence sport with the SEC/ACC and roughly 20-30 other solid teams each year. Out of those teams how many are actually giving guys significant NIL? LSU, Tenn, Texas, A&M can only have so many guys and as we have seen this year, it didn't help all the SEC teams.
Maybe that is Avents argument with saying he doesn't need much NIL. Of course if you have a Tommy White who has a massive season you will probably lose him, but you also don't need to blow your entire budget on him.
Avent has never said he doesn't need much NIL.
I asked those guys and they said they didn't know. Which, in my opinion, if I was them, I sure as hell would want to know why the baseball coach didn't want to do an event with me to raise money for his team.
I guess I'm just saying, as a member of 1P, I don't need to know why Avent didn't want to do the thing, but I sure think they should know.
If they know and just don't want to say, for whatever reason, I respect that. But that's not what they said.
Do you expect them to tell you everything they know? Sometimes it's better to just say "I don't know".
If they say they "don't know" then I am going to take them at their word and believe that they do not know. They usually are pretty straight up with us here.
No offense intended here but they don't owe you or any of us that statement.
I agree with almost everything here. I believe there was zero interest, My issue is that 1P says they don't know why. If that is true, that they don't know why, or haven't bothered to ask, that's malpractice.
I disagree that they don't owe us that statement, We are their customers. We provide them the funds to operate. Again, I'm not asking why, I'm just saying that they should know why. That's all.
I think it's interesting personally, that the staff was interested in it the first year, and then all of a sudden, not interested the second year. I find it concerning that the leadership at 1P says they don't know why they decided not to do it the second year.
If Avent didnt believe in NIL, why would he have done it in the first place.
These concerns seem common sense level to me.
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