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BBADWOLF#1
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Hopefully revenue will give the baseball over million to spend next year. How much does State have to spend in baseball via NIL
CLTWolf
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Mandras said:

If Avent doesn't ask for (nor want) money, he won't get money.

(NIL-specific. He is passionate about the Doak renovations)
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CLTWolf
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Don't know where to put this (or care) but Gupton absolutely destroys a baseball and then proceeds to let everyone know about it.

The former Pack player is having a big year for Samford.

Looks like a fun game if you follow the tweets. Haha


Mandras
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I honestly think the nil value is close to 0. People more connected than myself have said specifically that we (1) have very little money and (2) that it's not our philosophy to bid for players.

Would be very happy to be corrected, as that is all 2nd hand info
FLWolf
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I am not sure it is our philosophy but just our reality
JCooke93
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Elon CF Tank Yaghoubi just followed Hart
matracey
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Mandras said:

I honestly think the nil value is close to 0. People more connected than myself have said specifically that we (1) have very little money and (2) that it's not our philosophy to bid for players.

Would be very happy to be corrected, as that is all 2nd hand info
I guess it depends on what you consider close to 0.

This is 2nd hand info as well but I believe our highest paid player is in the $40K-$50K range and total budget is like $200K max
StateFan2001
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That's not gonna get you a whole lot. I won't go into specifics but the SEC is offering 7 figure deals to certain HS players.
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Mandras said:

If Avent doesn't ask for (nor want) money, he won't get money.

(NIL-specific. He is passionate about the Doak renovations)
WHy would he be more passionate about renovations than NIL?
Mandras
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I'm speculating here, so no claim to know what he's thinking, but he cares more about the "old school" philosophy of how to build a program (high level facilities, player development, fan experience) as opposed to "pay to play".

It could also be that he has been emotionally invested in these renovations for a decade plus, and considers them a trophy of his legacy as a 30 year NC State head coach (along with his 3 CWS's of course).
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The money for renovations has already been raised, I don't think that has any impact on NIL. Wouldn't matter if EA wanted to use that money for players, you can't take money donated for one purpose and use it for something else, EA's feelings about NIL and roster construction be what they may.
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Mandras
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I don't think anyone is making that claim.

Just that he is vocal (behind the scenes and during public appearances) about the renovations while being equally silent about asking for campaigns/fundraisers (through 1pack or otherwise) for NIL funds. He just doesn't want the money (seemingly).
StateFan2001
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If that's the case it is going to get ugly once these arms leave. Hopefully that isn't the case.
JCooke93
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Chrysler just followed Belmont LHP Ethan Harden
JCooke93
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Other Wichita State player just followed Avent RHP Jeremiah Arnett
wroncsu
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Based on what was said at the January 2024 baseball NIL event, it sounds like Avent will never be one to campaign for NIL dollars, but that Hart would be more willing to. Considering that it sounds like the baseball program didn't push to have a public NIL event in 2025 following a 2024 CWS run, feel like that's probably still true.

WIth the arms that State will still hopefully have next season, would be nice to plug a couple of guys with more power into the lineup at a couple spots that will be vacated after the 2025 season ends.
StateFan2001
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When EA leaves we are going to need to modernize how we do things with baseball. In this climate you have to be part fundraiser and then you have to know how to use your money like Wade is doing.
JCooke93
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Hm
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J.Dienes42 is now in the portal
wbkook
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James Henderson said:

Mandras said:

If Avent doesn't ask for (nor want) money, he won't get money.

(NIL-specific. He is passionate about the Doak renovations)
WHy would he be more passionate about renovations than NIL?


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Jtilley
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Just a reminder that revenue sharing and NIL are different from each other. The university decides how revenue sharing is split up, so the baseball team could potentially get some money for players next year.
JCooke93
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Ok
BBADWOLF#1
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Baseball team should get over million with revenue sharing. Hopefully they could get $200,000 thru NIL to get around 1.5 for next year team.

20.5 million

Football. 12
Basketball(m) 5
Basketball(w) 1.3
Baseball 1.2
Olympic 1
StateFan2001
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Question why are we giving $1M to Olympic sports??
BBADWOLF#1
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I was giving example how revenue could look. Wrestling is Top 10 program, should get some money. I would have no problem to leaving half million for Olympic sports
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StateFan2001 said:

Question why are we giving $1M to Olympic sports??
Because every Athletics dept. in the country will give around that amount to their olympic sports whether fans think they should or not
wbkook
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StateFan2001 said:

Question why are we giving $1M to Olympic sports??


Only true student athletes should get something.
StateFan2001
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BBADWOLF#1 said:

I was giving example how revenue could look. Wrestling is Top 10 program, should get some money. I would have no problem to leaving half million for Olympic sports
WIth these programs you aren't competing with pro leagues and they are not profitable so why would we pay the athletes? Most of these folks are true student athletes who are there to get an education and in most cases are getting a reduced cost or free education.
I40Wolf
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StateFan2001 said:

BBADWOLF#1 said:

I was giving example how revenue could look. Wrestling is Top 10 program, should get some money. I would have no problem to leaving half million for Olympic sports
WIth these programs you aren't competing with pro leagues and they are not profitable so why would we pay the athletes? Most of these folks are true student athletes who are there to get an education and in most cases are getting a reduced cost or free education.


Because we are competing with other college programs.
StateFan2001
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I40Wolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

BBADWOLF#1 said:

I was giving example how revenue could look. Wrestling is Top 10 program, should get some money. I would have no problem to leaving half million for Olympic sports
WIth these programs you aren't competing with pro leagues and they are not profitable so why would we pay the athletes? Most of these folks are true student athletes who are there to get an education and in most cases are getting a reduced cost or free education.


Because we are competing with other college programs.


I would be ok recruiting the best free athletes we can for the track and field team if that means more money for football, basketball, and baseball.
Glasswolf
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CLTWolf said:

Don't know where to put this (or care) but Gupton absolutely destroys a baseball and then proceeds to let everyone know about it.

The former Pack player is having a big year for Samford.

Looks like a fun game if you follow the tweets. Haha



Players did not leave the field in protest. They were pulled off the field to prevent a scuffle. Gupton, the Mercer SS Bradley Fyre, 2 coaches were ejected. Bradley Fyre's mother was also removed from the stadium after coming onto Mercers dugout
JCooke93
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Might be a good thing he is not with the Pack9 anymore
Coach15
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That game was out of control from the start. I'd love to know the context behind Gupton's actions. He was clearly yapping for a reason and not because he hit a homerun. Doesn't excuse the actions, but there's more to the story.
Glasswolf
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Coach15 said:

That game was out of control from the start. I'd love to know the context behind Gupton's actions. He was clearly yapping for a reason and not because he hit a homerun. Doesn't excuse the actions, but there's more to the story.



I'm ok with watching a ball leave the yard but after that act like you've been there before. When I pitched Esposito would had me hit him if he came back up again.
Coach15
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Glasswolf said:

Coach15 said:

That game was out of control from the start. I'd love to know the context behind Gupton's actions. He was clearly yapping for a reason and not because he hit a homerun. Doesn't excuse the actions, but there's more to the story.



I'm ok with watching a ball leave the yard but after that act like you've been there before. When I pitched Esposito would had me hit him if he came back up again.
Ha, no doubt.
 
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