Will Wade Is Leaving NC State For LSU

James, when did it start? A month ago?

We need more Wes Moores. Braden Holloways, Laurie Henes types, Elliot Avents, Popolizios, and no more self-aggrandizing narcissists.

and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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**** man, that happened with Wade.

Bas2020 said:

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smitt86 said:

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Bas2020 said:

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This has been in the works since October I'm not sure there is much that would've stopped this from happening.

I do think our administration should've been mor aware … this was an open secret all along .

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Wade was probably lying through his teeth and talking about all the things he wanted to do next year, and our admin probably trusted him.

Also don't think it would have mattered much other than starting a coaching search sooner, because we were never touching $15m/yr in NIL guarantees, and we probably would have needed to exceed that to keep him. Felt like getting us to hire him basically completely erased the last of the "dirt" on him and opened the door for LSU to hire him. May have been his play all along.

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The $15 M was a red herring .

Certain people - Goodman & Giglio are buying that as fact when it's not .

I think that was just the excuse to leave . Even the LSU folks are saying they haven't promised or think they can fund that amount as of today .

On the flip side NC St believing ho huming it with 9M regardless of coach is also troubling given the landscape .

UNC is about to pay a $10M buyout . Fire Hubert . Pay the new guy . Fund a $15 M roster . Pay Belichik $50M.

All while we are rubbing nickels together .

We need to find money .

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Many of these schools don't have the money either. Go look at the debt of these athletic depts.

What a ****ing coward.

PackBacker07 said:

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Boo has been a solid AD but this buyout situation is ludicrous. And if he didn't suspect anything re: LSU here, that's borderline firing territory IMO.

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I assume the greater concern at the time was that you were hiring a coach who had been recently fired in connection with an FBI investigation. Therefore, it was more likely you would need to fire him than another program coming to hire him away. Without those conditions, I am sure the buyout would have been structured differently.

We are fortunate to be rid of him. We can do much better!

Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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Brother, not matching LSU doesn't make us cheap. Wade hade between 10-12 million. More than enough to compete. ****, multiple teams in the sweet 16 had lower NIL.

James Henderson said:

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HMPacker40 said:

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Agreed. Lost in all this is that James getting this out earlier than it may have otherwise might end up making us some $.

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The way that statement is said "Wade is going to LsU who still has a head basketball coach"

PackPA2015 said:

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Need a "pissed off at Will Wade" NIL drive ASAP

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This is the driver. Next coach needs a Player Haters tour.

The back stories from this are gonna be epic. I'm willing to bet the green guys will be more willing to share them than usual because of the circumstances.

Our school just raised 48Mil in 24 hours, this woah as me, we can't afford is BS. We just don't have an administration that is willing to spend to play with the big boys.

wirewolf said:

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Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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Brother, not matching LSU doesn't make us cheap. Wade hade between 10-12 million. More than enough to compete. ****, multiple teams in the sweet 16 had lower NIL.

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It's not about THIS year.

Do we have enough to compete next year, when the price is just going up, especially after an underwhelming year.

I don't know the answer to that, but knowing how we give to other sports with this "prove it and earn it" mentality I wouldn't be surprised

Hell Wes Moore is the most has proved it and earned it coach we have, and even he doesn't get what he deserves.

This is not blaming fans. This is the harsh reality.

He's a clown. Honestly believe we will look back on this in 3-5 years and be glad it worked out this way.

Go get JG, add Hodge as a lead assistant and stud recruiter and let's ride

Mr. O said:

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hink2 said:

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Two things important for our fanbase that may be a little counterintuitive:

1) Do not let him and his camp perpetuate the myth that he didn't have the resources needed to compete. He got arguably the most sought after player in the portal and several other dudes that weren't cheap. There are a lot of coaches out there who could have delivered last season's results, if not better, with the resources in place. The man said himself he had everything needed to win big here and it was the best job he's ever had. DO NOT LET THE FALSE NARRATIVE GAIN OXYGEN when he's going back to a place that fired him and a short while ago would've said was a worse job and basketball situation than what we have in Raleigh.

2) it is also incumbent upon us to collectively step up and make sure that aforementioned myth becomes reality. If you care about this program and have the means to do so, we need to provide our financial support REGARDLESS of who the coach is. It won't make a big difference, but I plan on bumping my monthly payment directed to basketball.

Our program is so much bigger than one person, and NC State basketball will survive. Hell, less than two years ago many of us were packing our bags for Phoenix to watch a team in the Final Four that had comparatively fewer financial resources relative to the competition than we had last year with a coach who understandably was ultimately relieved of his duties.

We have a rich basketball tradition that we can continue to build on - and there are a lot of guys out there who can be successful in this job with our collective support.

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Keatts made a Final Four with less than 3 million. I bet he could have gotten out of Dayton this year with 9.7. He would have also represented NC State with class for one more year.

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Keatts had no revenue share. Rev share started this year. All schools had bigger budgets this year. So it is all relative. $3 Keatts last year equates to what Wade had this year except if any increase in NIL. Any increase in NIL would be credit to the coaching change.

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No it does not equate. Duke was already spending a lot two years ago, so was UNC. Our rev share number was only 4 this year. So if Keatts had 2.7 and you add 4 that's 6.7. There is still a 3 million dollar gap that our big money donors came up with for Wade. I think Keatts could have done about the same THIS year with 9.7. Since we wasted a year with Wade, it was interesting to think about.

I can't be the only one that hated how we played basketball for a good part/most of this season? WW is a clown and after getting a taste of his brand of basketball I'm ok to move on.

Let's get the buyout money and find a new coach.

Doing a little discovery on who he's been talking to re: LSU tampering would be a fun side quest as well.

Nsync7227 said:

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wirewolf said:

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Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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Brother, not matching LSU doesn't make us cheap. Wade hade between 10-12 million. More than enough to compete. ****, multiple teams in the sweet 16 had lower NIL.

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It's not about THIS year.

Do we have enough to compete next year, when the price is just going up, especially after an underwhelming year.

I don't know the answer to that, but knowing how we give to other sports with this "prove it and earn it" mentality I wouldn't be surprised

Hell Wes Moore is the most has proved it and earned it coach we have, and even he doesn't get what he deserves.

This is not blaming fans. This is the harsh reality.

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Take just one day off from the we don't have money ***** Just one day.

You can't be mad at the guy. It's a business. Don't be a victim, be better. NC State needs to figure it out and win.

GTFO and don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya...I'm glad this is over and the Wolfpack circles I run were done with him. The vast majority of the fan base feel jilted and would have never trusted the guy again, and he, by all accounts, had one foot already out the door at his introductory press conference, as his move back to LSU happened quicker than the snakes in the Bayou even thought was possible, but make no mistake...that was the plan from day one. The future is really simple...give what you can and we'll be just fine...don't and we'll reap what we sow...that's just the way of college sports nowadays.
The Time is now to circle the wagons...not to crawl into a "woe is me" hole my Brethren.
Go Pack!!!

Wolfpack8602 said:

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Nsync7227 said:

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wirewolf said:

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Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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Brother, not matching LSU doesn't make us cheap. Wade hade between 10-12 million. More than enough to compete. ****, multiple teams in the sweet 16 had lower NIL.

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It's not about THIS year.

Do we have enough to compete next year, when the price is just going up, especially after an underwhelming year.

I don't know the answer to that, but knowing how we give to other sports with this "prove it and earn it" mentality I wouldn't be surprised

Hell Wes Moore is the most has proved it and earned it coach we have, and even he doesn't get what he deserves.

This is not blaming fans. This is the harsh reality.

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Take just one day off from the we don't have money ***** Just one day.

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Why? It's literally what sports is about these days. Good lord man. It's ok. It's reality.

I'm not belittling or blaming anyone

There's tons of layers to this.

And what did I say was wrong?

PackBacker07 said:

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Are we sure that was Wade's floor? Because he got behind a mic and said so? Knowing what's going down now, what reason do you have to believe this?

I do think Wade is a good coach and his attitude fit here at State, but I also realize he's never been past the S16, even being "ahead of the curve" funding his program at LSU.

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Even though I had my doubts, I somewhat accepted the hype of many here who acted like we'd landed a big fish. I guess he turned out to be a largemouth ass.

I just want to know if we got our $5M?

Didn't want to say anything while he was with us, but that dude just looks like a goofy slob, with that fat spare tire around his waist.

Our NIL money in these threads has been all over the place.

I've seen posts suggesting anywhere from $8m to $12m on our roster this year.
Heard we were top 5 in NIL during the season, and there's no chance $8m is top 5.

Wish there was just an inkling of transparency here, haha.

$12m and finishing 7th in the ACC is pretty bad, given it's top 5 in the conference.
$8m and finishing 7th in the ACC is what I would expect, given that would likely be middle of the road in the ACC.

Add Julius Hodge as the top assistant?

Yeah we are just going to go back to irrelevancy

Julius was my favorite player growing up but we want him the top assistant to a first year HC?

I drank the Kool Aid in the offseason like everyone, but started to pick up the acting in those performative press conferences. Got tired of him calling the guys soft. Attitude reflect leadership, captain.

We'd win with him or without him. Go pack

Now you know what those big ass hips that's impossible...

There has been no indication that Wade wasn't given all the money he was told he was given, proven by the words from his own mouth. Whether that is enough money, whether it would be enough next year, none of that is relevant. That's his narrative. Why do NC State fans need to further the narrative of the snake that just ditched us? That's the self depreciating thing that we do that I don't like. Let's band together, support the administration, and support a coach that actually wants to be here.

Nsync7227 said:

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Wolfpack8602 said:

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Nsync7227 said:

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wirewolf said:

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Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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Brother, not matching LSU doesn't make us cheap. Wade hade between 10-12 million. More than enough to compete. ****, multiple teams in the sweet 16 had lower NIL.

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It's not about THIS year.

Do we have enough to compete next year, when the price is just going up, especially after an underwhelming year.

I don't know the answer to that, but knowing how we give to other sports with this "prove it and earn it" mentality I wouldn't be surprised

Hell Wes Moore is the most has proved it and earned it coach we have, and even he doesn't get what he deserves.

This is not blaming fans. This is the harsh reality.

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Take just one day off from the we don't have money ***** Just one day.

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Why? It's literally what sports is about these days. Good lord man. It's ok. It's reality.

I'm not belittling or blaming anyone

There's tons of layers to this.

And what did I say was wrong?

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Because you're just repeating something everyone already knows.

Wearestate13 said:

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Add Julius Hodge as the top assistant?

Yeah we are just going to go back to irrelevancy

Julius was my favorite player growing up but we want him the top assistant to a first year HC?

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"Top" assistant is probably a little bit off, but would love to add him to the staff as a coach/recruiter.

Just funny how everyone goes nuts when Rivers is just around the football program, but the thought of Hodge being one of our assistant coaches(like Levi was) is a sign of irrelevancy, haha.

Wolfpack8602 said:

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Nsync7227 said:

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Wolfpack8602 said:

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Nsync7227 said:

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wirewolf said:

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Wearestate13 said:

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and we will keep crying and give for a day or maybe a week, but then back to cheap

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Brother, not matching LSU doesn't make us cheap. Wade hade between 10-12 million. More than enough to compete. ****, multiple teams in the sweet 16 had lower NIL.

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It's not about THIS year.

Do we have enough to compete next year, when the price is just going up, especially after an underwhelming year.

I don't know the answer to that, but knowing how we give to other sports with this "prove it and earn it" mentality I wouldn't be surprised

Hell Wes Moore is the most has proved it and earned it coach we have, and even he doesn't get what he deserves.

This is not blaming fans. This is the harsh reality.

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Take just one day off from the we don't have money ***** Just one day.

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Why? It's literally what sports is about these days. Good lord man. It's ok. It's reality.

I'm not belittling or blaming anyone

There's tons of layers to this.

And what did I say was wrong?

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Because you're just repeating something everyone already knows.

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Yea idk because it's a very important part to the why IMO.

Again not sure why you are mad at me ha!

Hope all yall *****ing are on the OnePack thread donating today! We even have a match up to $5000!!!

wolf howl said:

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I can't be the only one that hated how we played basketball for a good part/most of this season? WW is a clown and after getting a taste of his brand of basketball I'm ok to move on.

Let's get the buyout money and find a new coach.

Doing a little discovery on who he's been talking to re: LSU tampering would be a fun side quest as well.

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Agreed. I've stated in several threads he's no more than a freaking YMCA coach.

PackBacker07 said:

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Are we sure that was Wade's floor? Because he got behind a mic and said so? Knowing what's going down now, what reason do you have to believe this?

I do think Wade is a good coach and his attitude fit here at State, but I also realize he's never been past the S16, even being "ahead of the curve" funding his program at LSU.

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Exactly. What proves this was his floor? Everything else he has pretty much said has been a lie. There's no chance Wade would ever miss the tournament if he was here 10-15+ years? No chance he would miss on more evaluations?

This would be 100x worse if Wade was who he said he was and actually won something big here in Year 1.