Republicans For Biden

ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

GuerrillaPack said:

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ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

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you can when supporting the democrat is a 4 year solution to remove arguably the most immoral president in US history. Then you go try to get the party back to Republican roots with the next candidate and elect an actual Christian to lead so the religious right doesnt have to hypocritically support this joke of a man.

GuerrillaPack said:

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jadawson said:

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ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

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you can when supporting the democrat is a 4 year solution to remove arguably the most immoral president in US history. Then you go try to get the party back to Republican roots with the next candidate and elect an actual Christian to lead so the religious right doesnt have to hypocritically support this joke of a man.

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"most immoral"

Like the party that champions the mass murder of millions of unborn children?

Or champions Sodomy and the totally insane transgender agenda?

Or removing mention of God from all areas of public life, and teaching atheism/evolution and denying teaching of Creation as a possible origin of life?

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Yes. Most immoral is hilarious. Orange man bad hyperbole.

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ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

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you can when supporting the democrat is a 4 year solution to remove arguably the most immoral president in US history. Then you go try to get the party back to Republican roots with the next candidate and elect an actual Christian to lead so the religious right doesnt have to hypocritically support this joke of a man.

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"most immoral"

Like the party that champions the mass murder of millions of unborn children?

Or champions Sodomy and the totally insane transgender agenda?

Or removing mention of God from all areas of public life, and teaching atheism/evolution and denying teaching of Creation as a possible origin of life?

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i honestly dont know how to respond to this. you're aware that there is literally nothing Christian about Donald Trump, right? he' spent the entirety of the 90's a democrat and friends with the Clinton's. What has he done to bring god back into society? Champions sodomy? just lol. I'd ask you to back up with facts but the kind of sources you provide are the same one's that believe the earth is flat.

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GuerrillaPack said:

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ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

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you can when supporting the democrat is a 4 year solution to remove arguably the most immoral president in US history. Then you go try to get the party back to Republican roots with the next candidate and elect an actual Christian to lead so the religious right doesnt have to hypocritically support this joke of a man.

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"most immoral"

Like the party that champions the mass murder of millions of unborn children?

Or champions Sodomy and the totally insane transgender agenda?

Or removing mention of God from all areas of public life, and teaching atheism/evolution and denying teaching of Creation as a possible origin of life?

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i honestly dont know how to respond to this. you're aware that there is literally nothing Christian about Donald Trump, right? he' spent the entirety of the 90's a democrat and friends with the Clinton's. What has he done to bring god back into society? Champions sodomy? just lol. I'd ask you to back up with facts but the kind of sources you provide are the same one's that believe the earth is flat.

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As I've probably now said for the tenth time on this forum, I no longer support Donald Trump. I voted for him in 2016 because I believed what he was saying, and that he truly meant what he said he would do. But once in office, he has not upheld his campaign promises/stances, and often done the complete opposite of what he campaigned on. I have since realized that he is yet another RINO fake conservative, and actually a minion of the Establishment. And, yes, of course I'm aware of Trump's past and that he was publicly a Democrat and friends with many Democrats/liberals over the past years and decades. Now, I understand that Trump has ALWAYS been a leftist, and a part of the "elite"/Establishment. He only PRETENDED to be a "conservative" when running for President, in order to fool conservative/Republican voters.

jadawson said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

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you can when supporting the democrat is a 4 year solution to remove arguably the most immoral president in US history. Then you go try to get the party back to Republican roots with the next candidate and elect an actual Christian to lead so the religious right doesnt have to hypocritically support this joke of a man.

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Yep.
We can survive 4 years of Biden. Republicans may keep the senate anyways. At most Biden will have a mandate for 2 years before the inevitable mid term backlash. Then in 2024, maybe the republican party tries to make a return to normalcy and nominate someone decent.
If Trump wins again, you're most likely seeing another Trump-like candidate. The party will then continue the being anti-trade, anti immigration, and with complete disregard for deficits

Wait.... why won't 60 minutes in the US run this piece?

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Wait.... why won't 60 minutes in the US run this piece?

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Excellent question.

Why won't the communist Establishment Lamestream media run all the videos from CSPAN where Joe Biden is groping and inappropriately touching numerous women and young girls?

Hmmmmmm. What a mystery. I just can't imagine why!

If there were numerous videos of Trump doing this, they would be airing it non-stop for months on end and every talking head "pundit" on all the "news" channels would be talking about it 24/7, creating a firestorm, so that everyone in the country knew about it.

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A nation state attempting to operate under the strict construction of the Constitution will fail. I think perhaps we have reached the point in the relationship where we should split up into three to five smaller nation states and operate more like the European Union, sharing just a military, a common currency, Corps of Engineers, and open boarders.

The new Confederacy could consist of Northern Florida, Bama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, Western NC, SW Va, West Va., Kentucky and Tennessee.

They could attempt to follow strict construction, They could devolve State's rights so that they disenfranchise their poorer people. They could not provide Medicare, etc., etc. The key would be that visitors to their sub nation form the rest of the former US would retain their home sub nation rights on a visit. It would be a low tax, low service world.

The class caste system will become severe as it was in the past. I suspect that a lot of black folks, especially in Atlanta would migrate away.

California, Washington State, Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado could run a very European economic and social system. They would offer a high tax, high service world.

New England, Middle Atlantic to include Eastern Va and Eastern NC, plus South Florida, PR, and VI could probably operate a moderate tax, high service environment, closer maybe to Germany or Switzerland and they would get a lot in migration from Atlanta.

In Texas and Western Oklahoma, every child can be given a gun at birth.

The Midwest and Upper Plains could run like most any developed nation in Stage 5 Demographic Transition.

As long as you don't turn over the military to Nashville, or Sacramento, or Dallas, it could work.

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What you described, in the first paragraph, is exactly what we attempted to do. Unfortunately, Man has screwed this up so much that we are unrecognizable.

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Because he doesn't tell us about some moral high ground. The point is, we have all fallen short of the glory of God. No person should be an idol of another. The real argument to be made: which politician, then party, gets us closest to liberty. Liberty meaning individual freedoms as recognized and protected by the constitution. Our moral compass is from God (at least for me it does), not people...

Liberty is why I will vote Republican as they are the closest to it that we have. Another government solution is: A) not constitutional, and B) taking away more of our liberties. Study the original intent of the constitution and you will come away with the same opinion. If you don't, then, you are not putting original intent along with what people were experiencing at the time. I will say this: technology has changed; however, really nothing else has changed from the times these founders lived.

Liberty is Liberty! Today, 250 years ago, 1,000's of years ago...

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Well I would say that a LOT has changed since the time these founders lived. At the time of writing for instance liberty for them only mean liberty for white property holding males. That's such a bunch of crap and you know it. It's the lefts new talking point! I think we're all glad the society has moved past that.

Thomas Jefferson argued in his letters to James Madison that they should specifically allow within the framework that the document should be revisited and amended by each generation for periodical repairs until the end of time. We have it. It's called the amendment process and it very difficult to do, so, your statement is so hollow! Many of these founders that we rely so heavily on probably wouldn't be as happy as you'd think that we are still largely relying on their same words from almost 250 years ago. Again, that's a bunch of crap! Words spoken by a very uniformed person.

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My thoughts in bold above...

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If you care to expound upon those points please feel free to do so. Im sorry if i don't take "that's a bunch of crap" by itself as a solid rebuttal. I literally gave the example of Thomas Jefferson and your response is "that's a bunch of crap"

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Yep, that's what it is... "a bunch of crap". I don't know specifically where Jefferson said that to Madison; however, I am confident that what you are saying, if true, is taken completely out of context. As I said, above, the constitution does provide for an amendment process. Unfortunately, to the chagrin of liberals, it takes a lot to change it, as it should.

The problem with most liberals is that they can't handle the restrictions the constitution puts on them; so, they make up crazy statements like: founders wouldn't be as happy as you think as we...

What they wouldn't be happy about is the perversion of the constitution we have by both Republicans and Democrats. They literally didn't trust Man as they knew they could be corrupted.

Are you corrupted?

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here's the letter to Madison, no context removed. It's pretty damn clear he thought the dead shouldn't rule over the living.

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-12-02-0248

The most relevant section, but please read the whole thing

On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, & what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, & consequently may govern them as they please. But persons & property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course, with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, & no longer. Every constitution then, & every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, & not of right. It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to 19 years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be indeed if every form of government were so perfectly contrived that the will of the majority could always be obtained fairly & without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves. Their representation is unequal & vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils. Bribery corrupts them. Personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents: and other impediments arise so as to prove to every practical man that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal.

he thought that the constitution and laws should expire every 19 years or so and the new generation should write a new set of laws to govern themselves with, precisely because men are easily corrupted and we can't be certain that representatives are acting in the interest of their constituents.

This letter was written after the Constitution was ratified, including the Article outlining the amendment process.

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Now, go back and read the letters back and fourth between the two. I am not reading that Jefferson was advocating your narrative. It is true that no law should bind another generation. The very fact that this is done by electing a new congress. The problem is the corrupt nature of Man that Jefferson is pointing out.

I think Jefferson was closer to brilliant than most. He believed in a free man (including slaves) and didn't want government to interfere with Man's liberty.

I just read the entire letter again. This is not easy reading and I may not be qualified to do so; however, we do have a constitution and we do have an amendment process for change. The most important part of the letter is speaking of binding one generation (1st) to another generation (2nd) to debt incurred by the 1st generation.

We have completely blown this one apart!!!

GuerrillaPack said:

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ciscopack said:

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Republicans For Biden

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That's like a "Christians for Satan" campaign.

Those people are not true Republicans. No way that you can stand for the principles of the Republican Party, and support the communist Democrats.

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Gov. John Kasich

Secretary of State Colin Powell

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood

EPA Director Christine Whitman

Trump Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci

Trump Homeland Security Dept. Chief Miles Taylor

Former GOP Presidential candidate/HP CEO and Ted Cruz running mate Carly Fiorina

Former GOP Senator David Durenberger of Minnesota

Former GOP Senator Gordon J. Humphrey of New Hampshire

Former GOP Senator John Warner of Virginia

Former GOP Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona, who called a Trump second term "a real danger."

Rep. Susan Molinari of New York

Rep. Charles Djou of Hawaii

Rep. Joe Walsh of Illinois

Cindy McCain, the widow of Sen. John McCain

Former Rep. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania

Former Trump Assistant Director of Homeland Security Elizabeth Neumann

27 former GOP lawmakers, including Rep. Bob Inglis of South Carolina, Rep. Jim Kolbe of Arizona, Rep. Jim Greenwood of Pennsylvania, Rep. Jim Leach of Iowa and Mickey Edwards of Oklahoma.

A group of 73 former U.S. national security officials in the Republican administrations, including former heads of the CIA and FBI and Trump administration officials, endorsed Biden

former Republican Senator Bill Cohen of Maine endorsed

On the final day of the convention, groups of over 100 McCain 2008 and 30 Romney 2012 campaign staffers endorsed Biden, in addition to a group of nearly two dozen George W. Bush campaign and administration staffers.

A group of 100 prominent Republicans and independents, including Todd Whitman, former Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder and former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, launched a group to campaign, run ads and pen opinion pieces on Biden's behalf.

6 Republican AGs; Greg Zoeller of Indiana, Mark Shurtleff of Utah, Jim Jones of Idaho, Doug Baily of Alaska, Jeff Amestoy of Vermont and Jeff Pine of Rhode Island.

Olivia Troye, a former Pence aide and White House coronavirus task force member

Former Pennsylvania Gov. and Bush Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge endorsed Biden in a Philadelphia Inquirer op-ed

Numerous Republican media figures, campaign strategists and government officials have even organized PACs dedicated to supporting Biden, such as Republican Voters Against Trump and, most recently, 43 Alumni for Biden. The most notable among them is the Lincoln Project

The last living former Republican president, George W. Bush, has said he won't back Trump. Nor will his brother Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida

Trump's former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and former Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly have both expressed opposition to Trump

Other ex-Trump officials have spoken out against him as well, including Homeland Security advisor Tom Bossert, communications staffer Omarosa Manigault, National Economic Council director Gary Cohn, Navy Secretary Richard Spencer, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security advisor John Bolton.

5. That's how many sitting Republican senators are weighing voting against Trump, according to Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.). Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) has said he will not vote for Trump and may write-in his wife, while Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said she is "struggling" with the decision. Rep. Francis Rooney (R-Fla.) has also said he will not vote for Trump and is considering a vote for Biden.

Former Representative Mark Sanford, who briefly challenged the president in the Republican primary, said last year that he'd support the president if he won the nomination.

But now Mr. Sanford believes Mr. Trump is threatening the stability of the country. "He's treading on very thin ice," said Mr. Sanford, also a former South Carolina governor, who is engaged in frequent conversations with other Republicans about how to proceed.

^ RINOs. Fake conservatives. Congress and DC is full of them. They are not true conservatives. They are charlatans who just PRETEND to be "conservative". In reality, they are closet Leftists.

Another story by John Solomon talking about Hunter Biden's problems in Ukraine. There should be about a two minute video on the page of Solomon explaining what happened. Biden and his family are as dirty as can be.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/joe-biden-defense-his-sons-overseas-business-deals

Dude needs something else to do.

A new group of evangelical leaders forms in support of Biden

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Biden said to a group of Haitian Americans that it would be ironic If they delivered the coup de grace in this ELECTION. Twisting that to say what this tweet does is hilariously bad.

Sincerely hope this account has never tweeted about "fake news" or the MSM because THAT would be ironic

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You've got to be kidding.

I think this is new and I don't believe it's doctored, but Joe sticking his foot in his mouth again and being racist.

Just because what Biden is talking about now:

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I think this is new and I don't believe it's doctored, but Joe sticking his foot in his mouth again and being racist.

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seriously???? For how much trumpers scream fake news you guys are so damn gullible and willing to believe anything that fits your worldview without a simple fact check. Here's the full context quote of the clip that was so conveniently cut off for the soundbit.

https://twitter.com/LorenCollins/status/1313217375760773122/photo/1

It's for sure political pandering, but thats it

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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I think this is new and I don't believe it's doctored, but Joe sticking his foot in his mouth again and being racist.

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seriously???? For how much trumpers scream fake news you guys are so damn gullible and willing to believe anything that fits your worldview without a simple fact check. Here's the full context quote of the clip that was so conveniently cut off for the soundbit.

https://twitter.com/LorenCollins/status/1313217375760773122/photo/1

It's for sure political pandering, but thats it

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So if he says somebody else said it, it's not racist? Lol. Defend the party!!!!

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I think this is new and I don't believe it's doctored, but Joe sticking his foot in his mouth again and being racist.

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seriously???? For how much trumpers scream fake news you guys are so damn gullible and willing to believe anything that fits your worldview without a simple fact check. Here's the full context quote of the clip that was so conveniently cut off for the soundbit.

https://twitter.com/LorenCollins/status/1313217375760773122/photo/1

It's for sure political pandering, but thats it

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So if he says somebody else said it, it's not racist? Lol. Defend the party!!!!

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how is it racist? He's talking about how people are hopefully changing their mindsets regarding race.

That's exactly the kind of **** republicans would call someone a snowflake for getting offended about out of context.

Nobody is making him say black people are the ones stocking shelves at grocery stores. You snowflakes would riot in the streets if Trump said something like that.

I love that liberals are worried about context now.

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Nobody is making him say black people are the ones stocking shelves at grocery stores. You snowflakes would riot in the streets if Trump said something like that.

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LOL ok dude. Don't even know how to respond to this since you clearly are choosing not to use any critical thinking ability.

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Nobody is making him say black people are the ones stocking shelves at grocery stores. You snowflakes would riot in the streets if Trump said something like that.

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LOL ok dude. Don't even know how to respond to this since you clearly are choosing not to use any critical thinking ability.

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Totally, dude. I bet you've been using righteous critical thinking ability when determining context the last 4 years, brah.

He's clearly racist and misogynist based on this video.