MLB DRAFT TRACKER: Wolfpack Players And Signees

James Henderson said:

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https://fredericksburg.com/sports/baseball/professional/w-l-grad-craig-finds-it-breathtaking-to-be-drafted-by-orioles/article_88d5843c-4651-5e57-8714-9dff74a7e5dd.html

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Welp..next

EthanBarry said:

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Gone:
Torres
McDonough
Justice
Murr
Johnston
Watson

Decision time:
Butler
Tatum
Craig
Hood

Most likely back:
Tresh
Green

Getting White and likely Green is a huge coup. Also keep an eye on Mensik potentially signing an undrafted deal. I think you could also see Dalton Feeney get an undrafted deal

Deadline to sign is August 1 so this won't be a long, drawn-out process like it usually is

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Will NC State baseball players have access NIL? Ethan has IPS investigated the how our athletics staff is approaching NIL? Are they out seeking deals with agents? Can they create a list of NIL brokers for players to consider? The athletics staff sells ads and does merchandise so there folks who are in this space now. Will they transition to a role in NIL?

IPS Pack9 baseball shirts... with player names and likenesses on them... with half the profits going to the players.
Hmmmm....

poexcuse said:

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EthanBarry said:

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Gone:
Torres
McDonough
Justice
Murr
Johnston
Watson

Decision time:
Butler
Tatum
Craig
Hood

Most likely back:
Tresh
Green

Getting White and likely Green is a huge coup. Also keep an eye on Mensik potentially signing an undrafted deal. I think you could also see Dalton Feeney get an undrafted deal

Deadline to sign is August 1 so this won't be a long, drawn-out process like it usually is

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Will NC State baseball players have access NIL? Ethan has IPS investigated the how our athletics staff is approaching NIL? Are they out seeking deals with agents? Can they create a list of NIL brokers for players to consider? The athletics staff sells ads and does merchandise so there folks who are in this space now. Will they transition to a role in NIL?

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https://gopack.com/news/2021/7/1/general-nc-state-athletics-unveils-alpha-nil-program.aspx

wilmwolf80 said:

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poexcuse said:

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EthanBarry said:

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Gone:
Torres
McDonough
Justice
Murr
Johnston
Watson

Decision time:
Butler
Tatum
Craig
Hood

Most likely back:
Tresh
Green

Getting White and likely Green is a huge coup. Also keep an eye on Mensik potentially signing an undrafted deal. I think you could also see Dalton Feeney get an undrafted deal

Deadline to sign is August 1 so this won't be a long, drawn-out process like it usually is

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Will NC State baseball players have access NIL? Ethan has IPS investigated the how our athletics staff is approaching NIL? Are they out seeking deals with agents? Can they create a list of NIL brokers for players to consider? The athletics staff sells ads and does merchandise so there folks who are in this space now. Will they transition to a role in NIL?

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https://gopack.com/news/2021/7/1/general-nc-state-athletics-unveils-alpha-nil-program.aspx

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Thanks. I am sure it will take time to see how this works for athletes across all sports. My instincts were that the NCAA run increased public awareness of the baseball program and thus added market value to players images.

Sam Hall Clemson Grad Transfer

Honestly, I don't think I've seen any baseball players anywhere coming out with any kind of big NIL deal. Actually, outside of Oregon and Miami, I haven't seen many big money deals at all. I think outside of a few high profile guys in basketball and football, you aren't going to see as much real money out there as some maybe would think. I know some of our baseball guys have been named barstool athletes, but I haven't found where that is going to net them any money. Baseball money is already stretched pretty thin, I'm just not sure there will ever be enough NIL money out there to convince a kid to come to school instead of signing, or return to school. Maybe there will be a video game that will get them some money or something down the road, who knows.

Yup

In 2019 Sam Hall hit .260 with 7 homeruns and 30 stolen bases.

Sam Hall is fast. Dude stole 30 bases 2 years ago.

GolfGuy726 said:

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In 2019 Sam Hall hit .260 with 7 homeruns and 30 stolen bases.

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sorry, I missed this one when I posted. Good info!

A close friend has a son who plays at Clemson. He says the players do not like Monte Lee. Went on to say Hall is a great pickup for State. He's a NC boy who has great parents.

Awesome

EthanBarry said:

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braz213 said:

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https://theclemsoninsider.com/2021/07/14/clemson-player-commits-to-another-acc-school/

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Feels ominous after Hood and Craig got drafted

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Agreed

Who has the better bat?

Sam Hall
Sam Highfill

Honest question here...why do people think Tresh will be back? (other than Rogers statement) We have two good catchers coming in and KC is who drafted him. Perez, their starter, is getting old. Tresh has good power and a strong arm. He needs to learn to hit pro breaking pitches (he can't do that in college) and he needs to be much better defensively behind the plate. I think it better for him to learn from the KC coaches, not ours. With Perez getting older, KC may be two to four years from making a catching changing....just about time for Tresh to be ready. I don't think he can prove anything else and has a good situation....I would sign if I were him.

Packsd14me said:

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Honest question here...why do people think Tresh will be back? (other than Rogers statement) We have two good catchers coming in and KC is who drafted him. Perez, their starter, is getting old. Tresh has good power and a strong arm. He needs to learn to hit pro breaking pitches (he can't do that in college) and he needs to be much better defensively behind the plate. I think it better for him to learn from the KC coaches, not ours. With Perez getting older, KC may be two to four years from making a catching changing....just about time for Tresh to be ready. I don't think he can prove anything else and has a good situation....I would sign if I were him.

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1. He still has another "leverage" year.
2. Something caused him to fall and most people don't believe it was his play at the end of the season. I think he had a big number and teams didn't want to pay it. Royals took a flyer.
3. The JUCO catcher is probably going to sign with the Rangers if I were a betting man so that just leaves Cozart. That's not really a reason why I think Tresh is coming back just more informational. If we hear that Mitchell doesn't sign with the Rangers then I'd guess Tresh is gone and the staff worked Mitchell to get him to enroll.
4. KC also drafted a C in the 3rd round that has said he's going to sign. Hometown kid too. (not that it matters a ton).


I do think that the Royals will have some money leftover to try and get guys like Tresh to sign. Don't know if it will be enough.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article252753143.html

Link talks about "signability" issues (potential)

Luca Tresh, who Royals drafted at pick 499, was a consensus top 70-110 prospect. Slot value of pick 100 is $577k. You would think with the money saved on their first pick, this would be easy to hit.

— Ryan Patrick Dolan (@kc_fun) July 14, 2021

Here's where it could get weird with Luca, depending on the number he's looking for.

wolfpack1437 said:

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Packsd14me said:

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Honest question here...why do people think Tresh will be back? (other than Rogers statement) We have two good catchers coming in and KC is who drafted him. Perez, their starter, is getting old. Tresh has good power and a strong arm. He needs to learn to hit pro breaking pitches (he can't do that in college) and he needs to be much better defensively behind the plate. I think it better for him to learn from the KC coaches, not ours. With Perez getting older, KC may be two to four years from making a catching changing....just about time for Tresh to be ready. I don't think he can prove anything else and has a good situation....I would sign if I were him.

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He will be back. He's looking for way more money than where he was drafted. He also needs to prove his bat isn't hampered by his catching duties (like it was the 2nd half of the season)

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Thanks...it sounds like you have spoken with him. I have know players that asked for too much money and didn't get drafted as high as they were ranked because of their money demands. A couple even fell to later rounds than they should have been draft due to those demands. Pros don't draft guys high they don't think are signable. One player I coached asked for first round money even though he was a 4-8 round projection, went to college one year, played fairly well, got hurt and didn't get drafted ever again AND never even finished college. His life could have been much different had not the money demands been in the way. I think Tresh needs to think long and hard about what he will do. He has a good opportunity in front of him. What if he does improve much? One year in college plus three to four years to get better in the minors WHILE making money.

I wish him the best in whatever he decides. We need to consider the player's best interest here and not NC State.

I think Hood could prove something by playing well at SS (both on offense and defense) in the ACC. He may want to think about his position before he signs. If he plays well, he could command a lot more money. Not so sure about Tresh. I don't think he will be Patrick Bailey.....Bailey is in high A right now.

CLTWolf said:

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Packsd14me said:

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Honest question here...why do people think Tresh will be back? (other than Rogers statement) We have two good catchers coming in and KC is who drafted him. Perez, their starter, is getting old. Tresh has good power and a strong arm. He needs to learn to hit pro breaking pitches (he can't do that in college) and he needs to be much better defensively behind the plate. I think it better for him to learn from the KC coaches, not ours. With Perez getting older, KC may be two to four years from making a catching changing....just about time for Tresh to be ready. I don't think he can prove anything else and has a good situation....I would sign if I were him.

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1. He still has another "leverage" year.
2. Something caused him to fall and most people don't believe it was his play at the end of the season. I think he had a big number and teams didn't want to pay it. Royals took a flyer.
3. The JUCO catcher is probably going to sign with the Rangers if I were a betting man so that just leaves Cozart. That's not really a reason why I think Tresh is coming back just more informational. If we hear that Mitchell doesn't sign with the Rangers then I'd guess Tresh is gone and the staff worked Mitchell to get him to enroll.
4. KC also drafted a C in the 3rd round that has said he's going to sign. Hometown kid too. (not that it matters a ton).


I do think that the Royals will have some money leftover to try and get guys like Tresh to sign. Don't know if it will be enough.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article252753143.html

Link talks about "signability" issues (potential)

Luca Tresh, who Royals drafted at pick 499, was a consensus top 70-110 prospect. Slot value of pick 100 is $577k. You would think with the money saved on their first pick, this would be easy to hit.

— Ryan Patrick Dolan (@kc_fun) July 14, 2021

Here's where it could get weird with Luca, depending on the number he's looking for.

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This makes more sense.....just like the kid I coached...Tresh may wish he hadn't ask for so much money. I know my player and his mom (the driving force in his decision) did.

Thanks for the info.

CLTWolf said:

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I do think that the Royals will have some money leftover to try and get guys like Tresh to sign. Don't know if it will be enough.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article252753143.html

Link talks about "signability" issues (potential)

Luca Tresh, who Royals drafted at pick 499, was a consensus top 70-110 prospect. Slot value of pick 100 is $577k. You would think with the money saved on their first pick, this would be easy to hit.

— Ryan Patrick Dolan (@kc_fun) July 14, 2021

Here's where it could get weird with Luca, depending on the number he's looking for.

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From everything I've heard even 110 slot money is not enough....not even close

What are the odds that both Tresh and Mitchell sign, leaving only Cozart?

50/50

EthanBarry said:

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Tresh probably needs ~500k IMO

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From what I understand, and it's not firsthand, it's much more than that. He views himself as a high draft pick, not 70-110. That 500 number is off by a factor of more than 1

Terrell Tatum has informed PTB that he intends to sign his professional contract with the Chicago White Sox.

— Pack the Bases (@PackTheBases) July 15, 2021

Called it

Pretty much

James Henderson said:

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kmb717 said:

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Terrell Tatum has informed PTB that he intends to sign his professional contract with the Chicago White Sox.

— Pack the Bases (@PackTheBases) July 15, 2021

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Biggest no-brainer of them all IMO.

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interesting because i thought the opposite (granted, he had like a 1% chance of NOT signing and i don't blame him at all). but if he played a high level center field next year and kept hitting, he is a top 10 round pick. he has more tools than Butler to me. But, of course, no leverage. potential wise, I thought he had the most to gain