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I'll just ask the question on the climate change thread. Did the vaccine stop the spread of the virus?

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as someone who gets a flu shot most years I never felt that was the purpose of the vaccine. Always thought it was to make the virus not as brutal when you do get it....which is exactly what the flu shot does. And that's all covid pretty much is. An illness much like the flu.

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ncsupack1 said:

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I'll just ask the question on the climate change thread. Did the vaccine stop the spread of the virus?

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as someone who gets a flu shot most years I never felt that was the purpose of the vaccine. Always thought it was to make the virus not as brutal when you do get it....which is exactly what the flu shot does. And that's all covid pretty much is. An illness much like the flu.

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Understood. But the current President didn't sell the Covid vaccine that way did he? I get your point, but let's go back and look how the vaccine was sold.

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ncsupack1 said:

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I'll just ask the question on the climate change thread. Did the vaccine stop the spread of the virus?

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as someone who gets a flu shot most years I never felt that was the purpose of the vaccine. Always thought it was to make the virus not as brutal when you do get it....which is exactly what the flu shot does. And that's all covid pretty much is. An illness much like the flu.

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Understood. But the current President didn't sell the Covid vaccine that way did he? I get your point, but let's go back and look how the vaccine was sold.

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It absolutely was sold that way. "Take this and you're less likely to die from Covid! Notice how all of the old people who get this shot aren't dying as much anymore? Yeah, that can be you, too!"

Maybe you should consider the sources you get your information from. Seems like you might be getting a funhouse mirror version of reality.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211

Does this count?

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https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211

Does this count?

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Right, at the time of that town hall, about 6 months after the vaccine rollout, what he said was mostly true. Did you read that fact check? Their big "gotcha" was that a relatively small number of breakthrough infections do occur, so it's not technically "complete protection". But it was close enough that the military and businesses thought the idea of mandates was appealing so that they could get back to work sooner rather than later.

It was a few months later, as the Delta variant really took hold, where it became obvious that breakthrough infections were becoming the norm and mandates were pointless. Since then all subsequent boosters have just been based on the idea of reducing illness.

It seems like you guys just fundamentally don't understand what a moving target this virus has been, in terms of how quickly it evolved, but also just how often it defied decades of understanding about how similar viruses behave.

So what are you so mad about exactly? That the best scientist on the planet couldn't predict the future with 100% precision?

lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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Yes, he said it, because at the time it was true. 95% effective in the real world means it's fair to say that you're protected. I swear you guys are learning disabled on this concept or something.

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lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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Yes, he said it, because at the time it was true. 95% effective in the real world means it's fair to say that you're protected. I swear you guys are learning disabled on this concept or something.

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It wasn't true. I now know why were and others laugh at you about this. You are admitting it was a moving target but yet keep saying it was mostly true. Both can't be the same. You are worked up cause you thought I would quote some random X account.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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Yes, he said it, because at the time it was true. 95% effective in the real world means it's fair to say that you're protected. I swear you guys are learning disabled on this concept or something.

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It wasn't true. I now know why were and others laugh at you about this. You are admitting it was a moving target but yet keep saying it was mostly true. Both can't be the same. You are worked up cause you thought I would quote some random X account.

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Maybe he just gave you too much credit. There has never been a vaccine in human history that was 100% effective. 95% is about as good as it gets. People consider themselves fully protected from measles, but that vaccine isn't 100% either.

So you're OUTRAGED that Biden said that a vaccine that is 95% effective is completely protecting you? And you're STILL mad about it? Lol, Jesus, there's something seriously wrong with you guys.

Anyway, I'm confident that you won't comprehend this (or won't want to), but if the vaccine had stayed 95% effective then just like measles, Covid would basically have ceased to exists outside of wack-job anti-vaxxer communities. It was worth a try.

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lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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Yes, he said it, because at the time it was true. 95% effective in the real world means it's fair to say that you're protected. I swear you guys are learning disabled on this concept or something.

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It wasn't true. I now know why were and others laugh at you about this. You are admitting it was a moving target but yet keep saying it was mostly true. Both can't be the same. You are worked up cause you thought I would quote some random X account.

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Maybe he just gave you too much credit. There has never been a vaccine in human history that was 100% effective. 95% is about as good as it gets. People consider themselves fully protected from measles, but that vaccine isn't 100% either.

So you're OUTRAGED that Biden said that a vaccine that is 95% effective is completely protecting you? And you're STILL mad about it? Lol, Jesus, there's something seriously wrong with you guys.

Anyway, I'm confident that you won't comprehend this (or won't want to), but if the vaccine had stayed 95% effective then just like measles, Covid would basically have ceased to exists outside of wack-job anti-vaxxer communities. It was worth a try.

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Biden is on record saying, "if you get the vaccine you will not get Covid". How is that not misleading? I feel bad for those who believed him. Also, no outrage here, I'm happy with my choice.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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Yes, he said it, because at the time it was true. 95% effective in the real world means it's fair to say that you're protected. I swear you guys are learning disabled on this concept or something.

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It wasn't true. I now know why were and others laugh at you about this. You are admitting it was a moving target but yet keep saying it was mostly true. Both can't be the same. You are worked up cause you thought I would quote some random X account.

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Maybe he just gave you too much credit. There has never been a vaccine in human history that was 100% effective. 95% is about as good as it gets. People consider themselves fully protected from measles, but that vaccine isn't 100% either.

So you're OUTRAGED that Biden said that a vaccine that is 95% effective is completely protecting you? And you're STILL mad about it? Lol, Jesus, there's something seriously wrong with you guys.

Anyway, I'm confident that you won't comprehend this (or won't want to), but if the vaccine had stayed 95% effective then just like measles, Covid would basically have ceased to exists outside of wack-job anti-vaxxer communities. It was worth a try.

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Biden is on record saying, "if you get the vaccine you will not get Covid". How is that not misleading? I feel bad for those who believed him. Also, no outrage here, I'm happy with my choice.

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It was only misleading if you're a 14 year old.

You now know that the measles vaccine has never been 100% effective, either, yet they require it to go to public school. Do you feel bad for everyone who got a measles vaccine, too?

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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lol… he said it. That fact that you want argue that says more about you than the " got ya ". You are as bad as the hard line Trump people. I like the " mostly " part…nice touch.

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Yes, he said it, because at the time it was true. 95% effective in the real world means it's fair to say that you're protected. I swear you guys are learning disabled on this concept or something.

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It wasn't true. I now know why were and others laugh at you about this. You are admitting it was a moving target but yet keep saying it was mostly true. Both can't be the same. You are worked up cause you thought I would quote some random X account.

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Maybe he just gave you too much credit. There has never been a vaccine in human history that was 100% effective. 95% is about as good as it gets. People consider themselves fully protected from measles, but that vaccine isn't 100% either.

So you're OUTRAGED that Biden said that a vaccine that is 95% effective is completely protecting you? And you're STILL mad about it? Lol, Jesus, there's something seriously wrong with you guys.

Anyway, I'm confident that you won't comprehend this (or won't want to), but if the vaccine had stayed 95% effective then just like measles, Covid would basically have ceased to exists outside of wack-job anti-vaxxer communities. It was worth a try.

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Biden is on record saying, "if you get the vaccine you will not get Covid". How is that not misleading? I feel bad for those who believed him. Also, no outrage here, I'm happy with my choice.

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It was only misleading if you're a 14 year old.

You now know that the measles vaccine has never been 100% effective, either, yet they require it to go to public school. Do you feel bad for everyone who got a measles vaccine, too?

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I'm going to remember all these " misleading, mostly true " quotes for another day.

EU’s Ursula Von Der LIAR strikes again with the FRAUDULENT Climate Change Scam.

“There’s a way to cut emissions…put a price on carbon…and the message is very clear: You're polluting, you must pay a price…in the fight against Climate Change...” pic.twitter.com/7yaSxxbx8b

— Liz Churchill (@liz_churchill10) June 10, 2024

predictive programming - its climate crisis and cost of OM&R. you're being manipulated......

U.S. homeownership costs have risen 26% since 2020.

“On average Americans are spending $18,000 a year to own and maintain their home. This is all on top of your mortgage payment.”pic.twitter.com/uV6FGeLtNT

— TFTC (@TFTC21) June 11, 2024

Predictive programming on full display.

John Podesta is warning the world about climate change at Arnold Schwarzenegger's climate initiative, boldly declaring it a threat to our entire planet.

Podesta highlighted key events as examples of proof that climate change is killing people:

- Panama relocating indigenous… pic.twitter.com/nCGfidTUop

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) June 23, 2024

Predictive programming. EMP results will look just like those of a solar flare.

Apparently this is the Solar Flare apparently filmed from 91million miles away👀👀😎😎 pic.twitter.com/yT0uHT63cA

— nikola 3 (@ronin19217435) June 21, 2024

Don Jr broke the internet

He doesn’t even believe it was a “Solar Flare” 🤣🤣

Does anyone actually believe this was a “solar flare?” Next they’ll tell us that the stars are aligning in retrograde or some crap, which made it worse. lol.

At this point if you don’t have a hard… https://t.co/niIF9VyjSM pic.twitter.com/IkBWH0pnj7

— MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) February 22, 2024

https://instagr.am/p/C8kHkwiAU30

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/06/25/climate-aerosols-shipping-global-cooling/

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We've been accidentally cooling the planet and it's about to stop

Humans' fossil fuel burning has cooled the planet while warming it presenting problems for the future.

By Shannon Osaka
June 25, 2024

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https://instagr.am/p/C8rNjnlOVHV

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So if the planet is cooling to the tenth power while inversely warming at a rate of 1/3 the rate of earth's rotation that gives humanity about 6 months to live unless #democrats win the election.

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Climate Change. Real or hoaz? pic.twitter.com/BSOh1qT9R6

— Linda Hare (@MimiofBest) August 20, 2023

Watch the tyranny in #Hawaii develop. #Lahaina #DEW #SmartCities

Starting today, we are prepared to preemptively shut off power in areas that appear at high risk of wildfire as part of our PSPS program. Our internal systems, protocols and plans will be ready in the event of extreme weather conditions. Learn more at https://t.co/DkluqzKkcS. pic.twitter.com/weS8A8Ia7m

— Hawaiian Electric - Maui County (@MauiElectric) July 1, 2024

Biden smears Americans who aren't full-blown, five-alarm-fire climate alarmists as "really dumb" pic.twitter.com/qW5X6yVBN6

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 2, 2024

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Biden smears Americans who aren't full-blown, five-alarm-fire climate alarmists as "really dumb" pic.twitter.com/qW5X6yVBN6

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 2, 2024

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These are the same people who say it is also "science" that there are now 70 genders and that men can become women. They don't even know the most basic facts about biology, and yet want to lecture all of us on "science". They also say you are "dumb" if you believe in God and dare to reject their fairytale that "we are evolved monkeys who came into existence by random chance on a rock flying through space that was ejected from a big bang explosion". That is also "unquestionable science" according to these professional con artists.

A general rule in life is "believe and do the 180 degree opposite of what the communist Left and Democrats are promoting". There is not one thing that these fraudsters and their duped idiotic followers are right about. Not one. Everything they promote is deliberately designed to advance tyranny and big government power grabs, subvert Christianity and morality, and in general destroy society -- eg, abortion, transgender insanity, drag queen grooming of school children, aiding illegal alien invasion of the nation, destroying the first and second amendments, decriminalize looting and stealing, provide crack pipes for drug addicts, enact socialist "wealth transfer" welfare programs to pay half the country to not work and tax the working population half of their income to pay for all the freeloaders, demonize white people and promote racial division, etc.

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Biden smears Americans who aren't full-blown, five-alarm-fire climate alarmists as "really dumb" pic.twitter.com/qW5X6yVBN6

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 2, 2024

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Someone should just ask him "what is a woman?"

For the coffee drinkers

BigBarryWood said:

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What will the left do if they can't buy their $8 Starbucks everyday

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Good question? I hadn't thought about that.

BigBarryWood said:

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What will the left do if they can't buy their $8 Starbucks everyday

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They might not like not being able to eat meat either...because the priests of the cult of climate change are banning livestock.

ncsupack1 said:

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For the coffee drinkers

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I'm doing my part to make winters warmer. You're welcome!

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ncsupack1 said:

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For the coffee drinkers

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I'm doing my part to make winters warmer. You're welcome!

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I like my coffee

ncsupack1 said:

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Big Sexy Pack said:

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For the coffee drinkers

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I'm doing my part to make winters warmer. You're welcome!

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I like my coffee

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I like a lot of my coffee. A LOT!

BigBarryWood said:

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What will the left do if they can't buy their $8 Starbucks everyday

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I refuse to shop there. It's 10 cups every morning for me........and seldom to I leave any in the pot.

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BigBarryWood said:

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What will the left do if they can't buy their $8 Starbucks everyday

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I refuse to shop there. It's 10 cups every morning for me........and seldom to I leave any in the pot.

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Wow. That's a lot of coffee

If coffee is bad for the climate, I'll just tell you right now: Move away from the coast and get that AC serviced. My wife has an entire coffee system set up in our house. And if Diet Coke is bad, then humanity is rightly and truly screwed.