The "Flat Earth" movement - Could Establishment claims about the universe be false?

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WolfpackUSC
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The clouds are moving, just really hard to distinguish from such a large distance.



Here is a spot zoomed that shows cloud movement. Notice the left side of the shown cloud dissipates.

Who am I kidding, Guerrilla won't believe nor care.
grantwolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

barelypure said:

From a Million Miles Away, NASA Camera Shows Moon Crossing Face of Earth




Yeah, we've been discussing that CGI image for much of this page of the thread. Notice that in a supposed "5 hour time lapse" in the supposed "photos taken", that the cloud formations do not even change.

Bad fake.
Again, scale is not your friend. The cloud formations do move and change, but very subtly, as would be the case when looking at the entire Earth from this perspective. A typical cloud formation isn't going to move more than around 150 miles in a 5-hour time period, which is REALLY SMALL amount of movement.
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GuerrillaPack said:

dogplasma said:

No, it *is* proof, at least for someone who rejects the thousands of photographs of the round earth as actual things.
There is not one genuine photo of the "globe earth". Did you know that NASA even says (at the article below from the official NASA website) that the "only photograph of an entire hemisphere of the globe earth was taken in 1972 during Apollo 17"? And that one was fake too, because of course the "moon landings" are laughably fake/hoaxed.
I love how you've just totally ignored the Apollo photo because "moon landing fake!". I already debunked every one of your crazy moon conspiracies back on statefans.com many moons ago.
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grantwolf said:



I love how you've just totally ignored the Apollo photo because "moon landing fake!". I already debunked every one of your crazy moon conspiracies back on statefans.com many moons ago.
Statefans? I've never posted there in my life.
dogplasma
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Well, it won't be long until the flat earth society can easily crowdsource a commercial ride to the boundary of space and/or low earth orbit as some have already done. I bet if they made it known what they're doing they'd even get priority! Would make a good story. Would they be willing to go and would they believe their own eyes?
grantwolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

grantwolf said:



I love how you've just totally ignored the Apollo photo because "moon landing fake!". I already debunked every one of your crazy moon conspiracies back on statefans.com many moons ago.
Statefans? I've never posted there in my life.
wherever you were as NorthWolf....
WolfpackUSC
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grantwolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

grantwolf said:



I love how you've just totally ignored the Apollo photo because "moon landing fake!". I already debunked every one of your crazy moon conspiracies back on statefans.com many moons ago.
Statefans? I've never posted there in my life.
wherever you were as NorthWolf....


He also ignored the DSCOVR photos that do in fact show clouds moving.
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GuerrillaPack said:

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Interesting you'd pick a balloon as an example. How do you explain the fact that the sniper in the balloon can see objects much more distant than the sniper on the ground, with the same optics? In other words, how do you explain the horizon?
dogplasma
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If you try Google, you'll find that hot air balloons rising and falling are, in fact, influenced by the Coriolis effect enough that pilots can make some use of it. I didn't know that myself until I checked.

So now you've found two more DIY ways to test for a round earth: There's the two-flight test (timing two commercial airline flights in each hemisphere as discussed previously), the Focault pendulum test, the long-range rifle shot test, and a hot air balloon ride. The last two are admittedly a little tricky as they're sensitive to conditions and special equipment, but that's still two more options for the armchair flat earther.

What I don't get is how you can look at other things like the moon, the sun, Venus, Jupiter and its moons, etc, and see that they're obviously round, and then not think that the earth is too. Why would it make sense that the earth is the only flat thing?
WolfpackUSC
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dogplasma said:

If you try Google, you'll find that hot air balloons rising and falling are, in fact, influenced by the Coriolis effect enough that pilots can make some use of it. I didn't know that myself until I checked.

So now you've found two more DIY ways to test for a round earth: There's the two-flight test (timing two commercial airline flights in each hemisphere as discussed previously), the Focault pendulum test, the long-range rifle shot test, and a hot air balloon ride. The last two are admittedly a little tricky as they're sensitive to conditions and special equipment, but that's still two more options for the armchair flat earther.

What I don't get is how you can look at other things like the moon, the sun, Venus, Jupiter and its moons, etc, and see that they're obviously round, and then not think that the earth is too. Why would it make sense that the earth is the only flat thing?



ncsupack1
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^…lol
grantwolf
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I'm curious why Northwolf things fall to the ground. I've heard that the flerfs don't believe in gravity.
grantwolf
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Good news for Northwolf!!!!

He can actually go to Antarctica for a flat earth experiment. See details here:

Final Experiment
WolfpackUSC
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grantwolf said:

Good news for Northwolf!!!!

He can actually go to Antarctica for a flat earth experiment. See details here:

Final Experiment


Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
GuerrillaPack
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WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
WolfpackUSC
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GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.

GuerrillaPack
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WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


I love it when people hate and mock me for speaking the truth.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
WolfpackUSC
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GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


I love it when people hate and mock me for speaking the truth.


Lol ok
grantwolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


I love it when people hate and mock me for speaking the truth.
You won't even engage in dialogue. What freaking truth are you speaking?

grantwolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


I love it when people hate and mock me for speaking the truth.
I only hate you for claiming Sandy Hook and the Holocaust to be a hoax, not because you "speak the truth".
ncsupack1
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This has been one of the more interesting threads.
WolfpackUSC
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grantwolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


I love it when people hate and mock me for speaking the truth.
I only hate you for claiming Sandy Hook and the Holocaust to be a hoax, not because you "speak the truth".


Woah, I didn't know he was THAT deep into conspiracies. The movie, Idiocracy, is slowly becoming true.
Oldsouljer
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WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


There's scientific evidence in support of it. For example, it's well-known that an asteroid killed off the dinosaurs, so it's plausible that the Earth got flattened in the process. :B
GuerrillaPack
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grantwolf said:



You won't even engage in dialogue. What freaking truth are you speaking?


That's a blatant lie. You are clearly a LIAR. Why should we trust anything you have to say when you blatantly lie like this?
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
grantwolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

grantwolf said:



You won't even engage in dialogue. What freaking truth are you speaking?


That's a blatant lie. You are clearly a LIAR. Why should we trust anything you have to say when you blatantly lie like this?
Meaningful dialogue. Like, answer simple questions like:

How big is the sun?
How far away is the sun?
How big is the moon?
How far away is the moon?
Why can't the sun be observed 24/7 on a flat Earth?
What makes things fall towards the Earth?
Does the moon create its own light, or is it reflecting the Sun's light?
What are stars?

These are questions that should be easily answered by everyone (flat Earthers or not).
WolfpackUSC
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Oldsouljer said:

WolfpackUSC said:

GuerrillaPack said:

WolfpackUSC said:



Flerfs will still deny it. No reasoning with those weirdos
Proud "weirdo" here then.

You know all of us flerfs used to be glerfs at one time.


Believing the earth is flat isn't something to be proud of.


There's scientific evidence in support of it. For example, it's well-known that an asteroid killed off the dinosaurs, so it's plausible that the Earth got flattened in the process. :B


Now this, I can get behind!
grantwolf
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This is a riveting back and forth.
WolfpackUSC
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dogplasma
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Christmas will be here before you know it. Order early.


GuerrillaPack
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The International Space Station and "space walks" are faked. The footage from "inside the ISS" where they are supposedly "floating" is filmed with green screen technology. There are many "bloopers" where the astroNots can be seen with wires (to simulate "floating"), and numerous "glitches" from official NASA footage the green screen technology failed and "layers" visibly fade in an out (with the image of the astroNots fading in and out suddenly). Also, bubbles (of air in the water) can be seen on a lot of the official NASA footage of the "space walks".

The "space walks" are filmed in an underwater tank, to simulate the astroNots "floating outside the ISS". There is an admitted full scale "model" of the ISS in a huge pool/tank at a NASA facility that they claim is "only used for training". This is the "real" ISS. There is not an ISS "orbiting" up in the sky hundreds of miles above the earth.

Here are Lamestream news reports of an astroNot almost drowning from from "water leaking inside his helmet".


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grantwolf
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Yes there's a partial ISS model in water for astronaut training. No, the videos from NASA of the space station aren't filmed in said tank. There's literally a 45-minute long video from the ISS with maybe 2-3 cuts in the whole thing. This couldn't be filmed in a tank, nor could it be filmed with "wires", nor could it be filmed on a vomit comet airplane.

I'm constantly amazed at the amount of "unequivocal proof" people try to use to try to call space a hoax ("hey look, this guy's foot stuck on something while he was spinning...it must be a wire!!!"), yet ignore the abundance of proof that what they are watching was in fact real.
dogplasma
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Every SpaceX launch is live streamed from an onboard camera. You can literally watch the rocket leave the platform, which you can visit and see for yourself, and then watch the earth's horizon in the background as it begins to show the curve of the planet and, on a long enough flight, go from sunlight to darkness.
 
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