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James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
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kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs. You are 1 of the 2 flagship schools in one of the most fertile recruiting states in the country for baseball. Not to mention if you are in the SeC or the southern half of the ACC you have to work hard not to be a quality baseball program.
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StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.

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PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




But yes you can't suck if that is your point I agree.
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James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.


The point is it is alot easier to get it right with NC state baseball than say NC state football and even basketball. Hell half the P4/BE isnt even a factor in baseball.
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James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.
Here's what I know...

If Chris Hart gets the job, this program will keep chugging along and possibly take a step forward. I know he's a good coach like I knew Scott Forbes would be a good HC.

Here's what I don't know...

What does Boo do when Avent retires? Boo had two slam dunk choices in Hart and the former Army/Northwestern HC Jim Foster. Of course Foster turns out to be a toxic shtty human that's unhireable at this point.

You're right, you never know.
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CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.
Here's what I know...

If Chris Hart gets the job, this program will keep chugging along and possibly take a step forward. I know he's a good coach like I knew Scott Forbes would be a good HC.

Here's what I don't know...

What does Boo do when Avent retires? Boo had two slam dunk choices in Hart and the former Army/Northwestern HC Jim Foster. Of course Foster turns out to be a toxic shtty human that's unhireable at this point.

You're right, you never know.
IMO Boo will make an independent hire. Could be coach Hart, but I'm not sure that's an automatic move for Corrigan.

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StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.
uSCar recruits nationally and SC has a ton of talent, just like NC.
Hell, just recruiting regionally from SC, NC, GA and FL is plenty. Go look at the roster from the 2 time Natty champs and see where they were from...I'll spoil it, the southeast with some yankees sprinkled in for good measure.
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James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.
Here's what I know...

If Chris Hart gets the job, this program will keep chugging along and possibly take a step forward. I know he's a good coach like I knew Scott Forbes would be a good HC.

Here's what I don't know...

What does Boo do when Avent retires? Boo had two slam dunk choices in Hart and the former Army/Northwestern HC Jim Foster. Of course Foster turns out to be a toxic shtty human that's unhireable at this point.

You're right, you never know.
IMO Boo will make an independent hire. Could be coach Hart, but I'm not sure that's an automatic move for Corrigan.


As he should, but sometimes the answer is right in front of you. Basically the guy doing all the work now. haha
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James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


There's not a person on here that wouldn't celebrate an ACC championship. I just feel like the format in conference tournaments are so quirky that I just can't put that ahead of Omaha. You play all regular season playing 3 game series and then you had the pool play nonsense and now a single elimination tournament. Just too much randomness, even more so than other post season tournaments.
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StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.
uSCar recruits nationally and SC has a ton of talent, just like NC.
Hell, just recruiting regionally from SC, NC, GA and FL is plenty. Go look at the roster from the 2 time Natty champs and see where they were from...I'll spoil it, the southeast with some yankees sprinkled in for good measure.


That's right burn your base should always be your home state.
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kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
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CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.
Here's what I know...

If Chris Hart gets the job, this program will keep chugging along and possibly take a step forward. I know he's a good coach like I knew Scott Forbes would be a good HC.

Here's what I don't know...

What does Boo do when Avent retires? Boo had two slam dunk choices in Hart and the former Army/Northwestern HC Jim Foster. Of course Foster turns out to be a toxic shtty human that's unhireable at this point.

You're right, you never know.
IMO Boo will make an independent hire. Could be coach Hart, but I'm not sure that's an automatic move for Corrigan.


As he should, but sometimes the answer is right in front of you. Basically the guy doing all the work now. haha

NC State alum

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StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.
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kmb717 said:

James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


There's not a person on here that wouldn't celebrate an ACC championship. I just feel like the format in conference tournaments are so quirky that I just can't put that ahead of Omaha. You play all regular season playing 3 game series and then you had the pool play nonsense and now a single elimination tournament. Just too much randomness, even more so than other post season tournaments.
I think you can strive to win as many titles as you can and not dismiss any of them.

It's all random. Hell top 8 seeds can never leave home and make it to Omaha, in a double-elimination format. In a pretty good spot.

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Wolfer79 said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.


I think it's like anything else. You never know how a hire will workout so we can assume what we want. Some will assume NC State will fall off the face of the earth post-Avent, others won't.
Here's what I know...

If Chris Hart gets the job, this program will keep chugging along and possibly take a step forward. I know he's a good coach like I knew Scott Forbes would be a good HC.

Here's what I don't know...

What does Boo do when Avent retires? Boo had two slam dunk choices in Hart and the former Army/Northwestern HC Jim Foster. Of course Foster turns out to be a toxic shtty human that's unhireable at this point.

You're right, you never know.
IMO Boo will make an independent hire. Could be coach Hart, but I'm not sure that's an automatic move for Corrigan.


As he should, but sometimes the answer is right in front of you. Basically the guy doing all the work now. haha

NC State alum


Love Sogard but everyone wins at Wright State. It's like the baseball version of VCU in basketball. haha

I'd like to see Alex to another step up from Wright State.
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.


Go look
For yourself. If not I will do the math later when I have time.
State has 1 of the Top 15 players in the 2026 class per PG and that player is an outfielder. Good hitter but still not a premium position. That's isn't close to good enough.
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IF nc state doesn't go with hart (i think they should, but that's another convo) go get glavine at northeastern. Typically has one of the best pitching staffs at the mid major level and his team plays fun and aggressive (200+ stolen base attempts this year). Was so impressed when they whooped out ass a couple years ago
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StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.


That's just now how college sports work anymore. That's a totally obtuse response.
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James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


Haha we can settle this debate once and for all. The D1baseball website does a weekly chat on mondays where you can ask questions. I'll ask their opinion on Conference titles vs Omaha
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StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.


Go look
For yourself. If not I will do the math later when I have time.
State has 1 of the Top 15 players in the 2026 class per PG and that player is an outfielder. Good hitter but still not a premium position. That's isn't close to good enough.
huh? you're all over the place.

PG has Gunnar Alm ranked 65th nationally. Not good enough?
PBR has Serrano and Church ranked in the top 10.
Kellen Smith and Jacob Smith are big time instate kids.

The portal has also changed how recruiting works.

Never mind you're gonna see some Florida studs pop up from Hart sooner than later.

We're gonna get a couple JUCO studs each year as well. Devin Mitchell being one from Flo-Dar already signed for next year. He's from Oklahoma and goes to a JUCO in Florence, SC. We hit the home base hard but also recruit very well regionally as well.

You're manufacturing angst for some odd reason.
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With our financial disadvantage and small/inadequate stadium we need to perfect the art of small market moneyball to sustain our success going forward. As I said earlier, what Avent has accomplished and the consistency his program has delivered relative to the support he is provided has been remarkable. It will be a much harder challenge for his successor.
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.


Go look
For yourself. If not I will do the math later when I have time.
State has 1 of the Top 15 players in the 2026 class per PG and that player is an outfielder. Good hitter but still not a premium position. That's isn't close to good enough.
huh? you're all over the place.

PG has Gunnar Alm ranked 65th nationally. Not good enough?
PBR has Serrano and Church ranked in the top 10.
Kellen Smith and Jacob Smith are big time instate kids.

The portal has also changed how recruiting works.

Never mind you're gonna see some Florida studs pop up from Hart sooner than later.

We're gonna get a couple JUCO studs each year as well. Devin Mitchell being one from Flo-Dar already signed for next year. He's from Oklahoma and goes to a JUCO in Florence, SC. We hit the home base hard but also recruit very well regionally as well.

You're manufacturing angst for some odd reason.


I am it going to get on here and talk about kids negatively that are juniors in HS but you are wrong in some of those dudes. Yes, they were good as 14 year olds. Gunnar Alm is a stud and he is the one top 15 Nc kid in our 2026 class. Serrano will be a good player too but he is just outside top 15
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StateFan2001 said:

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kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.


Go look
For yourself. If not I will do the math later when I have time.
State has 1 of the Top 15 players in the 2026 class per PG and that player is an outfielder. Good hitter but still not a premium position. That's isn't close to good enough.
huh? you're all over the place.

PG has Gunnar Alm ranked 65th nationally. Not good enough?
PBR has Serrano and Church ranked in the top 10.
Kellen Smith and Jacob Smith are big time instate kids.

The portal has also changed how recruiting works.

Never mind you're gonna see some Florida studs pop up from Hart sooner than later.

We're gonna get a couple JUCO studs each year as well. Devin Mitchell being one from Flo-Dar already signed for next year. He's from Oklahoma and goes to a JUCO in Florence, SC. We hit the home base hard but also recruit very well regionally as well.

You're manufacturing angst for some odd reason.


I am it going to get on here and talk about kids negatively that are juniors in HS but you are wrong in some of those dudes. Yes, they were good as 14 year olds. Gunnar Alm is a stud and he is the one top 15 Nc kid in our 2026 class. Serrano will be a good player too but he is just outside top 15

People that I know and trust that do this sht for a living and know much more about this stuff than you and I, I'll defer to them. Sorry.
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CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.


Go look
For yourself. If not I will do the math later when I have time.
State has 1 of the Top 15 players in the 2026 class per PG and that player is an outfielder. Good hitter but still not a premium position. That's isn't close to good enough.
huh? you're all over the place.

PG has Gunnar Alm ranked 65th nationally. Not good enough?
PBR has Serrano and Church ranked in the top 10.
Kellen Smith and Jacob Smith are big time instate kids.

The portal has also changed how recruiting works.

Never mind you're gonna see some Florida studs pop up from Hart sooner than later.

We're gonna get a couple JUCO studs each year as well. Devin Mitchell being one from Flo-Dar already signed for next year. He's from Oklahoma and goes to a JUCO in Florence, SC. We hit the home base hard but also recruit very well regionally as well.

You're manufacturing angst for some odd reason.


I am it going to get on here and talk about kids negatively that are juniors in HS but you are wrong in some of those dudes. Yes, they were good as 14 year olds. Gunnar Alm is a stud and he is the one top 15 Nc kid in our 2026 class. Serrano will be a good player too but he is just outside top 15

People that I know and trust that do this sht for a living and know much more about this stuff than you and I, I'll defer to them. Sorry.


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StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

CLTWolf said:

StateFan2001 said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.




You are underestimating the quality of the NC State baseball job. It is a primo job. Have you noticed how UNC changes coaches and keeps on rolling. These are both prime jobs.
unc hires great coaches (unfortunately). I worked for Mike Roberts at his camps and grew up playing with his son Brian, Mike is a great coach. I knew Coach Fox when he was at Wesleyan when we played them in the fall and he recruited my friends and teammates, including former teammate Scott Forbes. Great coach at Wesleyan and took advantage of the built in cheat codes at unc. I knew Scott was going to be a damn good coach back when I played Legion ball with him my FR year of HS. Hated that State fan from a family full of State people took the unc job, especially with him being such a good coach.

Look at South Carolina, "primo" job, right? Make bad hires and see what happens. Mississippi State, same thing. Lemonis had the program set up nicely for him from Cohen and Cannizaro and he got worse every year once the Cohen/Cannizaro kids cycled through.

Being a "prime job" is part of it, but you got to make the right hire. The job doesn't recruit, develop, and foster relationships.




Compare the talent coming out of SC and what comes out of NC. Volume nowhere close to the same.


Wait, are you saying that NC State should just be better than the USC because one is in Raleigh and the other is in Columbia?


Yes absolutely. Your recruiting base is your state. NC has probably twice as many D1 prospects each year as does SC.
twice as much is not accurate at all.


Go look
For yourself. If not I will do the math later when I have time.
State has 1 of the Top 15 players in the 2026 class per PG and that player is an outfielder. Good hitter but still not a premium position. That's isn't close to good enough.
huh? you're all over the place.

PG has Gunnar Alm ranked 65th nationally. Not good enough?
PBR has Serrano and Church ranked in the top 10.
Kellen Smith and Jacob Smith are big time instate kids.

The portal has also changed how recruiting works.

Never mind you're gonna see some Florida studs pop up from Hart sooner than later.

We're gonna get a couple JUCO studs each year as well. Devin Mitchell being one from Flo-Dar already signed for next year. He's from Oklahoma and goes to a JUCO in Florence, SC. We hit the home base hard but also recruit very well regionally as well.

You're manufacturing angst for some odd reason.


I am it going to get on here and talk about kids negatively that are juniors in HS but you are wrong in some of those dudes. Yes, they were good as 14 year olds. Gunnar Alm is a stud and he is the one top 15 Nc kid in our 2026 class. Serrano will be a good player too but he is just outside top 15

People that I know and trust that do this sht for a living and know much more about this stuff than you and I, I'll defer to them. Sorry.


Cool
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It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
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Rob McLamb said:

It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State
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PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


Haha we can settle this debate once and for all. The D1baseball website does a weekly chat on mondays where you can ask questions. I'll ask their opinion on Conference titles vs Omaha
What's there to settle? I've been referring all along to determining who watches 5 games a year. Not sure what D1Baseball has to do with that.
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James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


Haha we can settle this debate once and for all. The D1baseball website does a weekly chat on mondays where you can ask questions. I'll ask their opinion on Conference titles vs Omaha
What's there to settle? I've been referring all along to determining who watches 5 games a year. Not sure what D1Baseball has to do with that.


So you deny being of the mindset that an ACC Title is better than making it to Omaha?

If so I will retract my comment.

But if not. I say let's take it to the most respected source of information in College Baseball and see what the guys at D1 think.
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When Avent steps away then we need to clean house and have a new head coach and staff.
 
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