James Henderson said:Do you play every team in the ACC Tournament? What about the NCAA Tournament or CWS?Cthepack said:If you played everyone (and I could argue home and away) then maybe you have something. But thinking having the best regular season record is a real championship when you do not play every team is odd to me. The UNC and Wake series is about emotions, winning those series means much more to me than having the best record in an unbalanced regular season.James Henderson said:Sure but I was more talking the comparison of the series vs. UNC/Wake and the bball conf. titles, not just the conf. titles.Cthepack said:James Henderson said:That's wild to me, but to each his own.Cthepack said:Rob McLamb said:I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.StateFan2001 said:I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would goJames Henderson said:Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?
Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.
Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.
Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.
I would put winning the yearly series against UNC and Wake when we play them, above having the best record in the ACC. Especially with not every team playing each other.
Do you feel the same way in basketball?
Basketball may be worse. Not sure when a baseball power 5 conference best record team did not make the tourney. It has happened in basketball.
I can not remember ever seeing a conference regular season champion t shirt for baseball or basketball. See lots of t shirts for tournament champions.
I just do not view the regular season team with the best record as a champion. I feel this is something new and for arenas to put things on walls. Especially since we do not have a balanced schedule.
I get why they don't recognize it that way because then all tourneys would be meaningless but I've always thought success over 3 months should outweigh whatever happens over 3 days.
That's a disingenuous take. A tournament is a tournament and who you match up with is based on how you fared during the season. There are inherent advantages based on your in season performance which are earned. Random scheduling of the regular season where Team A doesn't play any of the Top 3 or 4 teams in the league is just that random and creates an imbalance that is based on nothing earned but obviously impacts wins and losses.