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We're in year two post Yow, if she was the thing keeping it from happening, why didn't they start as soon as she left, if the money was there? That part doesn't really make sense to me. I get that she and Avent might not have been best pals, but if all the money is out there, what's stopping it now?

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This more than anything else conclusively proves the old story blaming Yow for no stadium improvements is a total urban legend. We have to look no further than ourselves. I'd bet lunch that at least half of the chuckleheads piling on this thread have never donated more than $100 to the Wolfpack Club in any year.

And I've said it before, but it bears repeating--most of remaining developable areas on Centennial Campus are either spoken for, or lie in the flood plain or buffer areas of blue line streams, and thus would present signficant environmental permitting issues. Of course, you have some of the same issues with Doak, considering Rocky Branch is just beyond the right field wall, but the grandfathering of existing impervious surfaces means there is more to work with at the current stadium. I think most people would be perfectly happy with a covered mezzanine area up one level from current concourse, and with some kind of shade over parts of the stand (although for most of the season, too cold is more of a problem than too hot...)

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wilmwolf80 said:

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We're in year two post Yow, if she was the thing keeping it from happening, why didn't they start as soon as she left, if the money was there? That part doesn't really make sense to me. I get that she and Avent might not have been best pals, but if all the money is out there, what's stopping it now?

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This more than anything else conclusively proves the old story blaming Yow for no stadium improvements is a total urban legend. We have to look no further than ourselves. I'd bet lunch that at least half of the chuckleheads piling on this thread have never donated more than $100 to the Wolfpack Club in any year.

And I've said it before, but it bears repeating--most of remaining developable areas on Centennial Campus are either spoken for, or lie in the flood plain or buffer areas of blue line streams, and thus would present signficant environmental permitting issues. Of course, you have some of the same issues with Doak, considering Rocky Branch is just beyond the right field wall, but the grandfathering of existing impervious surfaces means there is more to work with at the current stadium. I think most people would be perfectly happy with a covered mezzanine area up one level from current concourse, and with some kind of shade over parts of the stand (although for most of the season, too cold is more of a problem than too hot...)

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But for most of us who do contribute.....would you throw 500 or 1000 or 10000 towards the "General Fund" if your desire is to see a new or improved baseball stadium, not knowing if it will even contribute to that?

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a plan and a rendering and say we need 20 million (or whatever the price tag) to get there and we are x % of the way there so far? If we are just gonna sit back and wait for Goodnight, Trump or A-Rod to pay for our new or upgraded stadium it will never get done.

Were there really rumors that A Rod wanted to contribute?

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Why dont we have a clear vision with football and baseball stadium enhancements?


Go get some plans and a rendering made and donations will go thru the roof.


There is a TON of cash floating around in the economy right now. Strike while the iron is hot.

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Yes. My guess is that we're about to get slammed with another 2009 except on steroids, so anything you want, you lock it in now.

Personally, I don't think there needs to be much expansion. Maybe some seating out in left field. Maybe a covered area added. The thing that needs work is the facilities, the infrastructure, locker rooms, etc.

wilmwolf80 said:

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Personally, I don't think there needs to be much expansion. Maybe some seating out in left field. Maybe a covered area added. The thing that needs work is the facilities, the infrastructure, locker rooms, etc.

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There has to be a WOW factor for recruiting. Not to mention, next year, as a national seed, we are going to look like crap on National TV ;-)

metcalfmafia said:

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Were there really rumors that A Rod wanted to contribute?

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Yes

I don't think expansion is the right word. I think the vast majority of us mean facility improvements/upgrades. Seating capacity isn't the issue.

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I hate to be that guy, but is the demand REALLY there for stadium expansion? I don't know, I'm asking. It's a tremendous atmosphere in May when Pack9 is making a run, but what is the crowd size on a weekend in March?

I get why Arkansas has the facility they do, there's nothing else in that state besides the Razorbacks. Same applies for the Mississippi schools.

I have a hard time imagining Boo is gonna dump significant resources into stadium expansion unless there's demand outside of a couple weekends in NCAA postseason play.

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Would love to see another 1k seats for the "big games" but improvements are a bigger issue than expansion. The lee Fowler crew took the cheap route in 2004 and it shows big time now. Not blaming him entirely because we were pouring all our money into C-F at the time. There was only so much money to go around.

gotcha, thanks for that clarification. so what exactly is the infrastructure problem? are the locker rooms, batting cages/bullpen, operations offices, press box too small or too outdated ? what do you get at uva, unc, ga tech, clemson, fsu that you won't find on our campus ?

Outside of the fan facing side of things, concessions, restrooms and what not, the other things are just things I've heard or seen written here. But our locker rooms, training areas, analytics equipment and all that kind of stuff seems to lag pretty far behind other clubs. Would have to go back and find some of the old threads on it

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Outside of the fan facing side of things, concessions, restrooms and what not, the other things are just things I've heard or seen written here. But our locker rooms, training areas, analytics equipment and all that kind of stuff seems to lag pretty far behind other clubs. Would have to go back and find some of the old threads on it

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does this help?
https://insidepacksports.com/forums/3/topics/5475

Yup, that's it.

Wasn't there a plan years ago to put baseball it at Carter Finley? I believe if I remember correctly it was going to put where the superfund site was.

For all the flack some of our fans give Boo, he would become a legend if he uses this momentum and gets it done

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Wasn't there a plan years ago to put baseball it at Carter Finley? I believe if I remember correct.y it was going to put where the superfund site was.

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The rumors were that Avent wanted it over there.

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Wolfpacklife said:

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Scotty is with us!

Give the #Pack9 the stadium they deserve!! @NCStateBaseball

— Scotty McCreery (@ScottyMcCreery) June 14, 2021

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Scotty got any scratch laying around? LOL

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Russell, and Phil do. I've always wondered (put aside politics) why someone doesn't hit up ol Lara Trump - like her father in law or hate him, the family has money and she is a graduate.

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You're talking about money, and there's a difference between your family and the family you married into.

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The family I come from the woman (women) control the "you know what", so they control the money. Get my drift?

Why can't we get a corporation to donate 20 million and put their name on the new facility. We need to think outside the box. Other teams have done this with great success.

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Why can't we get a corporation to donate 20 million and put their name on the new facility. We need to think outside the box. Other teams have done this with great success.

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There are many corporations out there with NC State ties. I don't know how we get them to make the gift. Maybe "Apple Stadium"?

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89_Grad said:

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wilmwolf80 said:

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We're in year two post Yow, if she was the thing keeping it from happening, why didn't they start as soon as she left, if the money was there? That part doesn't really make sense to me. I get that she and Avent might not have been best pals, but if all the money is out there, what's stopping it now?

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This more than anything else conclusively proves the old story blaming Yow for no stadium improvements is a total urban legend. We have to look no further than ourselves. I'd bet lunch that at least half of the chuckleheads piling on this thread have never donated more than $100 to the Wolfpack Club in any year.

And I've said it before, but it bears repeating--most of remaining developable areas on Centennial Campus are either spoken for, or lie in the flood plain or buffer areas of blue line streams, and thus would present signficant environmental permitting issues. Of course, you have some of the same issues with Doak, considering Rocky Branch is just beyond the right field wall, but the grandfathering of existing impervious surfaces means there is more to work with at the current stadium. I think most people would be perfectly happy with a covered mezzanine area up one level from current concourse, and with some kind of shade over parts of the stand (although for most of the season, too cold is more of a problem than too hot...)

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But for most of us who do contribute.....would you throw 500 or 1000 or 10000 towards the "General Fund" if your desire is to see a new or improved baseball stadium, not knowing if it will even contribute to that?

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a plan and a rendering and say we need 20 million (or whatever the price tag) to get there and we are x % of the way there so far? If we are just gonna sit back and wait for Goodnight, Trump or A-Rod to pay for our new or upgraded stadium it will never get done.

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those things are necessary, but not sufficient. I remember seeing "renderings" of PNC around 1989 while Valvano was the coach still, and it took 10 years and a bailout by the State and Wake County to get the thing built, because our fan base couldn't or wouldn't put up the money. We are biggest cheapskates as a fanbase in the P5.

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Pre PNC (Raleigh ESA) opening in '99 I would agree with you but it is mind boggling to see how much we've put into facilities in the past 20-23 years. I don't know the correct dollar amount but I would imagine it's close to $250 million into our facilities since then. Maybe more. And all baseball has received is 6 million. IMO our third most important sport.

How we went from the mid 60's until then without any major upgrades is a discussion we can save for another day tho......

Lagniappe said:

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jwpack said:

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Why can't we get a corporation to donate 20 million and put their name on the new facility. We need to think outside the box. Other teams have done this with great success.

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There are many corporations out there with NC State ties. I don't know how we get them to make the gift. Maybe "Apple Stadium"?

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With all the cash Hendu has I am thinking something like "Inside Pack Sports Baseball Stadium "

78wilsonpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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78wilsonpack said:

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metcalfmafia said:

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Wolfpacklife said:

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Scotty is with us!

Give the #Pack9 the stadium they deserve!! @NCStateBaseball

— Scotty McCreery (@ScottyMcCreery) June 14, 2021

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Scotty got any scratch laying around? LOL

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Russell, and Phil do. I've always wondered (put aside politics) why someone doesn't hit up ol Lara Trump - like her father in law or hate him, the family has money and she is a graduate.

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You're talking about money, and there's a difference between your family and the family you married into.

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The family I come from the woman (women) control the "you know what", so they control the money. Get my drift?

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Yup

Please

Amen to that

And some people have been turned away that wanted to give money just to baseball and that's it not very good handling it but that's just what I have been told

I think a lot of people on here (IPS) would be interested in giving for a specific baseball stadium improvement or replacement drive. What's next?