TheStorm said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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TheStorm said:

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Good grief, will somebody please get rid of this anti-semitic clown?

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You are officially a Leftist now, right?

All you do here is whine for censorship, like the commie do.

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No. I'm just one of many that is so ****ing tired of reading your idiocy here.

Loser.

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The last resort of someone who has LOST the argument is whining and crying for their ideological opponent to be silenced and censored.

You are admitting defeat.

The only way you can "beat" my argument is to silence me.

Loser.

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Please tell us all-knowing one.

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There is no us here. There is only a you, and you are an idiot.

You prove it here on a daily basis.

The Jews! The Jews! Everything is the Jews!

You have maybe one person here that agrees with 90% of what you write and that's Were... maybe at some point it's you and not everybody else...

Ponder that one for a while, genius...

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Charlie Kirk himself said it was the jews.

And Israel killed him for it.

You should whine and cry for Charlie to be censored too!

DrummerboyWolf said:

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Everybody's "Favorite Governor" right now has been pushing and embracing trans-ideology for quite a while. He would be a better chance of being the Democrat nominee than the GOP.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/09/17/gov-cox-has-spent-years-embracing-the-trans-ideology-that-corrupted-charlie-kirks-killer/

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That's why they (Mossad/CIA) perpetrated this killing of Kirk in a state like Utah.

They knew they had a totally RINO fake conservative governor who would "play ball" and go along with the cover-up. They think they can trick and con conservatives into believing that the "investigation" is "legitimate" and convince them that the patsy (Robinson), is the real killer.

They mis-calculated, as usual. The official story is falling apart.

You act like a petulant 5 year old... please, please, please keep posting more responses to me.

I love to watch you cry here like the ****ing baby that you are.

Can't wait for your next post. I bet it will be epic...

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You act like a petulant 5 year old... please, please, please keep posting more responses to me.

I love to watch you cry here like the ****ing baby that you are.

Can't wait for your next post. I bet it will be epic...

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I don't give a rat's arse about anything you post here.

I'm forced to respond because a crybaby like you is whing to ban and censor me.

And talk about projection and hypocrisy and accusing others of what YOU are doing. YOU are the one acting like a child. The epitome of a child is to whine and cry for those you disagree with to be silenced and censored.

"Waaaaahhh....Mommy moderator, censor the bad man who is posting things I don't like! Waaaaah"

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hokiewolf said:

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Right wing Cancel Culture is going to end well isn't it

https://www.thefp.com/p/his-wife-called-charlie-kirk-a-nazi

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Wow, fired due to association/wife. I can see the dilemma for businesses. For a restaurant, will they lose customers or will employees feel threatened working with someone celebrating the political assassination of a conservative/Republican. Tough business decision, although this one was due to the wife.

Businesses have core values and ethics requirements. Everyone should be mindful of that regardless of political affiliation.

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Yeah there's a broader FAFO component to this on display here.

Just because you're allowed to say something legally doesn't mean it won't have consequences for you. If you're an at-will employee or even if not if your company has online behavior standards, you better make sure your personal conduct doesn't bring embarrassment to your employer, or you may find out.

I think it's a reach for a business owner to fire a good employee because of their spouse's legal speech online, especially if it's a one-time event and they're not some notorious and locally famous online troll, but that's their business to run (presumably; I don't know Texas employment law).

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"He is the manager of a Texas Roadhouse in Milton, Florida"

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Jimmy Kimmel blatantly lying to his audience is peak liberal indoctrination… just lie to your audience face while they clap like seals because they are too stupid to conduct basic research and fact checking on their own .

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Are you describing JD Vance?

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Civilized said:

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packofwolves said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Right wing Cancel Culture is going to end well isn't it

https://www.thefp.com/p/his-wife-called-charlie-kirk-a-nazi

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Wow, fired due to association/wife. I can see the dilemma for businesses. For a restaurant, will they lose customers or will employees feel threatened working with someone celebrating the political assassination of a conservative/Republican. Tough business decision, although this one was due to the wife.

Businesses have core values and ethics requirements. Everyone should be mindful of that regardless of political affiliation.

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Yeah there's a broader FAFO component to this on display here.

Just because you're allowed to say something legally doesn't mean it won't have consequences for you. If you're an at-will employee or even if not if your company has online behavior standards, you better make sure your personal conduct doesn't bring embarrassment to your employer, or you may find out.

I think it's a reach for a business owner to fire a good employee because of their spouse's legal speech online, especially if it's a one-time event and they're not some notorious and locally famous online troll, but that's their business to run (presumably; I don't know Texas employment law).

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"He is the manager of a Texas Roadhouse in Milton, Florida"

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Florida/Texas is the same picture.

So anyways, back to the topic...

Anyone else find it odd that the video surveillance of him on the roof, jumping off the roof, running across the parking lot and to the sidewalk was all controlled by a person using a tilt/zoom camera? I know there's motion activated cameras that follow subjects but there were other people all around him so doubtful it would've been electronically doing it on it's own.

Who was operating the camera? Why didn't they catch him in about 5 minutes as they had visual and tracking to a very specific area immediately.

Not necessarily saying conspiracy or anything, just some anomalies that need explaining.

Stormy, you need to up your crybaby campaign for censorship, and add Matt Gaetz too. For daring to criticize Israel and jews, you are going to need to censor Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Matt Gaetz, most importantly censor Charlie Kirk himself, and probably half of all conservatives and MAGA people at this point.

I have personal knowledge as to many of the claims Tucker is making here.

They are 100 percent true. https://t.co/w7XoLiMl3m

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) September 17, 2025

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Tucker Carlson said that Charlie Kirk told him at a TPUSA Student Action Summit last July to highlight Epstein's connections to Mossad.

Distinguishing between Netanyahu and the State of Israel, Carlson claimed that Kirk hated Netanyahu and his war against Gaza despite loving Israel, and that Kirk was "tormented" until the day he died by Zionist donors for platforming Carlson at his event.

Two days before Kirk's death, Carlson revealed that Kirk lost a $2 million donation for pledging to platform him at TPUSA's December AmericaFest conference.

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So anyways, back to the topic...

Anyone else find it odd that the video surveillance of him on the roof, jumping off the roof, running across the parking lot and to the sidewalk was all controlled by a person using a tilt/zoom camera? I know there's motion activated cameras that follow subjects but there were other people all around him so doubtful it would've been electronically doing it on it's own.

Who was operating the camera? Why didn't they catch him in about 5 minutes as they had visual and tracking to a very specific area immediately.

Not necessarily saying conspiracy or anything, just some anomalies that need explaining.

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generally on college campuses they are not manned cameras, they activate with motion and they follow that motion.

There isn't a "control room" of people watching cameras like a casino for instance.

MTG just posted this 3 hours ago.

This is one of the first "substantive" tweets/statements from her going into detail about the reasons for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And, surprise surprise, it concerns the stance of Charlie in relation to Israel, and the fact that he invited MTG to speak at a conference, and to specifically debate "about AIPAC" and Israeli influence in our government.

Charlie was murdered because he was providing a platform for critics of Israel, like Tucker and MTG.

Charlie Kirk invited me to speak at Amfest a few weeks ago before he was martyred.
This was after I called for AIPAC to register under FARA and said that the nuclear armed secular government of Israel was committing genocide in Gaza and killing innocent children, Christians, and… pic.twitter.com/Mk7WTQnT0M

— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) September 17, 2025

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Charlie Kirk invited me to speak at Amfest a few weeks ago before he was martyred.
This was after I called for AIPAC to register under FARA and said that the nuclear armed secular government of Israel was committing genocide in Gaza and killing innocent children, Christians, and people.
He asked if I wanted to debate about AIPAC but made it clear NOT against him.
He said "we", him - TPUSA, would do whatever I want on the issue.
If you don't know who to believe, between Bibi Netanyahu (a foreign country's leader) or Charlie's personal friends Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, I'm posting my last text message with Charlie.
Believe Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
And at the same time always remember:
1. Charlie Kirk is an American Christian.
2. Charlie Kirk is a devoted loving husband and father.
3. Charlie Kirk is a Christian movement leader, a giant in American history.
4. Charlie Kirk is a Christian martyr for Jesus Christ.
5. Charlie Kirk is a Free Speech warrior and was committed to non-violent debate.
Do not allow a foreign country, foreign agents, and another religion tell you about Charlie Kirk.
And I hope a foreign country and foreign agents and another religion does not take over Christian Patriotic Turning Point USA.

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jkpackfan said:

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Has there ever been a world event that the Jews weren't responsible for?

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I'm posting MTG, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and others who are either specifically saying or implying that Israel was behind the murder of Charlie Kirk.

Those close to Charlie have reported that Charlie was under intense pressure from the "Israeli Lobby" in the weeks and months prior to his murder. Charlie reportedly told people he was close to that he even feared Israel might kill him.

But you want to talk about me, personally, and question what I say. This is not me saying these things. This is MTG, Tucker, Candace, Matt Gaetz. Listen to them.

This is just the facts. If jews have great power in society and over our government, then that's reality. Our government is being blackmailed and controlled by the Epstein blackmail ring, and Epstein worked for Mossad-Israel.

Don't you think THAT fact alone (Israel controlling much of our government via blackmail) has the potential to mean that these people have a TON of power over our government/society?

And then you have Charlie Kirk himself saying that (paraphrasing) elite "jewish donors are the driving force behind the cultural Marxist movement in America".

If you don't like the facts and reality of the world we live in, don't get mad at me.

hokiewolf said:

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wolf howl said:

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So anyways, back to the topic...

Anyone else find it odd that the video surveillance of him on the roof, jumping off the roof, running across the parking lot and to the sidewalk was all controlled by a person using a tilt/zoom camera? I know there's motion activated cameras that follow subjects but there were other people all around him so doubtful it would've been electronically doing it on it's own.

Who was operating the camera? Why didn't they catch him in about 5 minutes as they had visual and tracking to a very specific area immediately.

Not necessarily saying conspiracy or anything, just some anomalies that need explaining.

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generally on college campuses they are not manned cameras, they activate with motion and they follow that motion.

There isn't a "control room" of people watching cameras like a casino for instance.

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Even for events that are a known security risk? Just interesting it picked up on him specifically versus all the other people in the frames.

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caryking said:

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I suggest all liberals that have opinions of Charlie Kirk listen to this…. I 100% believe exactly what Charlie is saying in this video…

pic.twitter.com/vt7dOWMLm9

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 15, 2025

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What a disgusting guy he was.

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I am fighting mad right now.

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Civilized said:

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El Lobo Loco said:

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Civilized said:

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packofwolves said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Right wing Cancel Culture is going to end well isn't it

https://www.thefp.com/p/his-wife-called-charlie-kirk-a-nazi

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Wow, fired due to association/wife. I can see the dilemma for businesses. For a restaurant, will they lose customers or will employees feel threatened working with someone celebrating the political assassination of a conservative/Republican. Tough business decision, although this one was due to the wife.

Businesses have core values and ethics requirements. Everyone should be mindful of that regardless of political affiliation.

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Yeah there's a broader FAFO component to this on display here.

Just because you're allowed to say something legally doesn't mean it won't have consequences for you. If you're an at-will employee or even if not if your company has online behavior standards, you better make sure your personal conduct doesn't bring embarrassment to your employer, or you may find out.

I think it's a reach for a business owner to fire a good employee because of their spouse's legal speech online, especially if it's a one-time event and they're not some notorious and locally famous online troll, but that's their business to run (presumably; I don't know Texas employment law).

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"He is the manager of a Texas Roadhouse in Milton, Florida"

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Florida/Texas is the same picture.

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Have you ever in your life said "I was wrong"?

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OMG. It was a joke.

Yes I thought it was Texas. It was Florida. I was wrong. Does that matter one iota for the purpose of this conversation?

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Jimmy Kimmel blatantly lying to his audience is peak liberal indoctrination… just lie to your audience face while they clap like seals because they are too stupid to conduct basic research and fact checking on their own .

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Liberals make a living on the low information voter

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So if we take a random sampling of 10 million Pubs and Dems, what exactly do you think Dems have less information about?

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Honestly it depends on how much media they consume. Probably plenty out there don't realize the whole Russian thing was a fake opposition take down orchestrated by the highest up in the government. Most of those same people probably also believe the Hunter Biden laptop was fake, because that's what they were told by "security experts" and the media for months, if not years. Many on the left think there's more than two genders and that men can get pregnant. Sounds insane for me to actually type that, yet people on the left believe it.

So, honestly, it really goes back to how much they watch the news and are influenced by it.

With that said, there's certainly those on the right who are misinformed about topics as well either via social media outlets (way more common than legacy media like Dems) I'm sure.

The truly sad part is, as an American, you can't consume anything on the internet or legacy media and not wonder what their motive is, as far as news goes at least.

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Jimmy Kimmel blatantly lying to his audience is peak liberal indoctrination… just lie to your audience face while they clap like seals because they are too stupid to conduct basic research and fact checking on their own .

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Liberals make a living on the low information voter

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So if we take a random sampling of 10 million Pubs and Dems, what exactly do you think Dems have less information about?

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My honest answer is I dont think they are nearly as skeptical about things that come out of the media. I have some very left wing family members who take a lot of things that come from media/main stream at complete face value without any questions needing to be asked.

I always say that I am willing to learn/be wrong, but show me exactly what was said from the original source, not from some random podcast or new cast. Show me source material. I usually never hear back after that.

Admittedly, I question just about everything I read, so that may be on me

There are HUGE problems with the official story on this, and Robinson is looking like the Patsy.

We need to remain very skeptical, ask questions and fully investigate this ourselves...not relying on the government and Establishment media to dictate what we believe.

One thing I want to know is the trajectory of the where the shot that killed Kirk came from. And does this correspond to where they claim Robinson was?

Here is one person to follow for the latest developments on this, Phil Lyman, a former representative in the state of Utah. He was just on the Alex Jones show today, and pointing out many problems with the official story. For example, according to him, there are multiple eyewitnesses who said that a shooter escaped and was seen getting into a car and being driven away (not the Robinson guy who supposedly walked into the woods).

This Phil Lyman, is a Republican and being a former state rep, knows a ton about the "inside baseball" on Utah politics. He calls out the current governor, Cox, as 100% a RINO and actually a closet Leftist. And from looking at his twitter account history, he has been working hard to expose just how big of a threat Cox is to the conservative movement in Utah.

This is exactly where I am at with the @charliekirk11 assassination. https://t.co/43Wj2GkifF

— Just Phil Lyman (@phil_lyman) September 17, 2025

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Everyone who truly cares about Charlie Kirk and wants to see justice for his tragic murder should be advocating for an EXTREMELY thorough investigation of all the facts, evidence and unanswered questions.

I am absolutely appalled and disturbed by the growing list of people who want to see a rushed process by simply relying on the current government narrative without having seen any easily verifiable proof. Why the rush?

The evidence may be forthcoming and I hope to see it, but if Tyler Robinson was executed based on what's been shared with the public so far, are you satisfied beyond any reasonable doubt he's the lone wolf and no further investigation is necessary?

Why are certain people in such a rush? Engagement? Blood lust? Something else?

Maybe it's just me, but personally, some of the things I'd like to know are:

> Where is the bullet?
> How can you confirm the weapon that was recovered was the gun that was used without the bullet?
> Why has the crime scene already been dismantled when the bullet was never found? It wasn't a large area and should've easily been found.
> Why did two unidentified men remove the camera behind Charlie 5 minutes after he was killed?
> Where is the footage from that camera? Don't you want more confirmation of where the shot came from to ensure the right suspect(s) are apprehended?
> Where is the footage from the camera that was facing directly in front of Charlie? It should have the high resolution necessary to help determine the trajectory of the shot.
> Where is all of high quality security footage from the campus? Why do we only have a few grainy pictures from the stairwells and a distant video of someone jumping off the roof?
> Why are there no pictures or videos of the alleged shooter with the gun?
> Why are there no pictures or videos of the alleged shooter taking the shot?
> The FBI says they found Tyler's DNA on the towel the recovered gun was found in. We don't yet have any evidence of his DNA on the gun. As noted above, even if it is, how do we know this was the murder weapon without the bullet?
> Tyler's boyfriend and neighbors all mentioned suspicious out of state vehicles at their house in the days and week(s) leading up to the shooting. Don't you want to know who these people were? Is there any ring camera footage? Did the neighbors take any pictures? Are their co-conspirators?
> Who selected UVU's campus as Charlie's first tour stop?
> Why did George Zinn immediately claim he was the one to take the shot as a diversion to distract the crowd and law enforcement while the real shooter was trying to escape?
> We should be demanding search warrants for his communication devices, home, etc.
> We should be asking for more people who knew Charlie to come forward with any information that might help solve his murder.
> Are the claims being made by Candace, Tucker, Max Blumenthal, Matt Gaetz, Harrison Smith and many others legitimate? All of their assertions should be fully vetted. Let's see the receipts.
> Is it true Charlie confided in those close to him that he was fearful for his life? If so, why? By who?

No stone should be left unturned. We need to know every single person involved. All of the evidence should be rock-solid beyond any doubt and I'm very skeptical of anyone and everyone insisting otherwise.

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From Phil Lyman's account, here is Charlie Kirk speaking out on how big of a total RINO Leftist that the Utah Governor Cox is...

This was recorded in April of 2024 at an event in Utah where @charliekirk11 voiced what he really thought of the leader of this state, @GovCox Spencer Cox. Charlie knew. I believe he wants everyone to know. pic.twitter.com/XVt0mSKwIt

— Just Phil Lyman (@phil_lyman) September 15, 2025

Bannon covering how big of a total RINO Leftist that Utah Governor Cox is.

Cox promoted DEI, is a huuge proponent of the LGBTQ and transgender agenda, and recently denied allowing the Utah National Guard to assist Homeland Security in removing illegal aliens from the country.

Spencer Cox is a cancer to Utah. https://t.co/nTqsdahMsu

— Just Phil Lyman (@phil_lyman) September 17, 2025

I haven't been reading every single post on this thread, and just want to check on this one point....does anyone here actually believe that those alleged text messages the FBI claimed were from Robinson and his h0m0 tr@nny lover were real?

Has anyone here actually read those texts?

They are the fakest thing EVER. I mean no one is buying that those texts are legit. They are laughable.

If you can be honest with yourself and acknowledge that those texts are phony as hell, then just take the next step and consider the strong possibility that you are being lied to about the whole narrative.