Werewolf said:

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Charlie called out Utah's RINO governor Cox in April 2024.

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Makes Cox's decorum in the wake of Kirk's death even more magnanimous.

Candace Owens flat-out says the text messages of Tyler Robinson released by the United States government are doctored and fake.

She claims the messages were cherry-picked and placed strategically to push a specific narrative.

Owens insists they should be released with… pic.twitter.com/7QNgVU55dQ

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) September 16, 2025

packofwolves said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Right wing Cancel Culture is going to end well isn't it

https://www.thefp.com/p/his-wife-called-charlie-kirk-a-nazi

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Wow, fired due to association/wife. I can see the dilemma for businesses. For a restaurant, will they lose customers or will employees feel threatened working with someone celebrating the political assassination of a conservative/Republican. Tough business decision, although this one was due to the wife.

Businesses have core values and ethics requirements. Everyone should be mindful of that regardless of political affiliation.

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Yeah there's a broader FAFO component to this on display here.

Just because you're allowed to say something legally doesn't mean it won't have consequences for you. If you're an at-will employee or even if not if your company has online behavior standards, you better make sure your personal conduct doesn't bring embarrassment to your employer, or you may find out.

I think it's a reach for a business owner to fire a good employee because of their spouse's legal speech online, especially if it's a one-time event and they're not some notorious and locally famous online troll, but that's their business to run (presumably; I don't know Texas employment law).

Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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Charlie called out Utah's RINO governor Cox in April 2024.

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Makes Cox's decorum in the wake of Kirk's death even more magnanimous.

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#Sieve, a little birdie is chirping that Cox's election and election fraud have some commonality. We won't agree as to whether this ithe case or not.....so we shall have to wait n see... ;-)
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Those text messages appear to have united the nation.

Nobody on either side of the aisle thinks that shit is legitimate. 🤣🤣🤣

— Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) September 17, 2025

LOLOLOL

Truth. From Steve Bannon to the raddest commie rad-libs on down to even total nutjob Candace Owens nobody is buying that fake-ass middle school play script errrr...text string.

I see the FBI has taken to writing fan-fiction. Young gay men talk to one another like this?

Half of it is in cop speak: "interrogated" "squad car" "retrieve it" "swept that spot"

And why does he address multiple loose ends in a convo with his significant other unprompted after… pic.twitter.com/Wg4Awv0gwp

— Sarah (@DDGSarah) September 16, 2025

I showed this to my 21 and 23-year-old sons, and they said no one they know this age texts like this. They said, "Mom, this is how you text".
Do you know any 22-year-olds who text other kids like this?
They don't use complete sentences with correct punctuation. pic.twitter.com/cy36fMqzuG

— Sadie (@Sadie_NC) September 16, 2025

Not many on the right are buying it. pic.twitter.com/1Wm40bvaES

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 17, 2025

uhoh they've even lost catturd 😹 pic.twitter.com/z1Sqq32e0K

— foundring 🇺🇸 (@foundring1) September 16, 2025

What TF is going on?

Does Kash make it to the weekend?

caryking said:

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Regarding the firings of people…

I don't see this as conservative cancel culture at all. Take a look at where these people are being fired. Not all, but some are in the education field. Let's not pretend that education is some bastion of MAGA. No, they typically lean left, in their ideology. So, we should come to the conclusion that people are seeing these celebrations as horrible and they don't want these people associated with their business, faculty, etc…

Every business, school should have the right to disassociate with people that show vile actions. I'm not saying, in each case, that's the proper thing to do; rather, they should have the right to do it.

In summary, this appears to me as if we are going through a cleansing of people that showed horrible derision making. People can think certain things, no doubt; however, expressing things do have consequences, even with your freedom of speech.

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The distinction here is public/private though Cary.

In most cases, it is obviously not Constitutional to fire a public employee for their opinions, even if vile, that are expressed away from work and on their own time.

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Regarding the firings of people…

I don't see this as conservative cancel culture at all. Take a look at where these people are being fired. Not all, but some are in the education field. Let's not pretend that education is some bastion of MAGA. No, they typically lean left, in their ideology. So, we should come to the conclusion that people are seeing these celebrations as horrible and they don't want these people associated with their business, faculty, etc…

Every business, school should have the right to disassociate with people that show vile actions. I'm not saying, in each case, that's the proper thing to do; rather, they should have the right to do it.

In summary, this appears to me as if we are going through a cleansing of people that showed horrible derision making. People can think certain things, no doubt; however, expressing things do have consequences, even with your freedom of speech.

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The distinction here is public/private though Cary.

In most cases, it is obviously not Constitutional to fire a public employee for their opinions, even if vile, that are expressed away from work and on their own time.

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The very fact that you say we have a distinction between public/private is a problem,. My assumption is that public should be delineated from private. If so, we have created a public sector that has become void of accountability. I'm sorry, where in the constitution does firing a person, for their personal private feelings is out of bounds.

Freedom of Speech doesn't say that at all. Perhaps certain laws have been passed to protect employees, somewhat similar to the way tenure is. For me, tenure has never been a good thing. Everyone should go in each day and perform to the best of their ability, to provide the service they are being paid to do. No guarantees!!

Civ, please provide your thoughts on this…

I suggest all liberals that have opinions of Charlie Kirk listen to this…. I 100% believe exactly what Charlie is saying in this video…

pic.twitter.com/vt7dOWMLm9

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 15, 2025

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Regarding the firings of people…

I don't see this as conservative cancel culture at all. Take a look at where these people are being fired. Not all, but some are in the education field. Let's not pretend that education is some bastion of MAGA. No, they typically lean left, in their ideology. So, we should come to the conclusion that people are seeing these celebrations as horrible and they don't want these people associated with their business, faculty, etc…

Every business, school should have the right to disassociate with people that show vile actions. I'm not saying, in each case, that's the proper thing to do; rather, they should have the right to do it.

In summary, this appears to me as if we are going through a cleansing of people that showed horrible derision making. People can think certain things, no doubt; however, expressing things do have consequences, even with your freedom of speech.

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The distinction here is public/private though Cary.

In most cases, it is obviously not Constitutional to fire a public employee for their opinions, even if vile, that are expressed away from work and on their own time.

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The very fact that you say we have a distinction between public/private is a problem,. My assumption is that public should be delineated from private. If so, we have created a public sector that has become void of accountability. I'm sorry, where in the constitution does firing a person, for their personal private feelings is out of bounds.

Freedom of Speech doesn't say that at all. Perhaps certain laws have been passed to protect employees, somewhat similar to the way tenure is. For me, tenure has never been a good thing. Everyone should go in each day and perform to the best of their ability, to provide the service they are being paid to do. No guarantees!!

Civ, please provide your thoughts on this…

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So we're re-litigating the First Amendment now?

The public sector isn't void of accountability, but the scales of justice start out being tipped signficantly in public employees' favor.

The Constitution establishes Free Speech as the baseline, similar to innocent until proven guilty.

People don't have to demonstrate their speech is allowable. Their employer (the government) has to demonstrate that their speech is not protected by the First and that's a difficult needle-threading exercise.

This is a very well-worn path legally.

Was the employee speaking in their official role or as a private citizen? If private, they are very broadly protected.

Was the speech about a matter of pubic concern? If so, they are very broadly protected.

If their private speech is so inflammatory that it damages their ability to do their job, or damages their workplace's ability to perform their functions with the public, they may be disciplined or fired. You can't have a police officer, sworn to protect the public, disparaging broad classes of people as an example. Public trust would be lost and that's vital for their job.

Courts have to look at it case-by-case. Maybe you can give some examples of specific speech that you think should be grounds to legally fire a public employee.

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Regarding the firings of people…

I don't see this as conservative cancel culture at all. Take a look at where these people are being fired. Not all, but some are in the education field. Let's not pretend that education is some bastion of MAGA. No, they typically lean left, in their ideology. So, we should come to the conclusion that people are seeing these celebrations as horrible and they don't want these people associated with their business, faculty, etc…

Every business, school should have the right to disassociate with people that show vile actions. I'm not saying, in each case, that's the proper thing to do; rather, they should have the right to do it.

In summary, this appears to me as if we are going through a cleansing of people that showed horrible derision making. People can think certain things, no doubt; however, expressing things do have consequences, even with your freedom of speech.

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The distinction here is public/private though Cary.

In most cases, it is obviously not Constitutional to fire a public employee for their opinions, even if vile, that are expressed away from work and on their own time.

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The very fact that you say we have a distinction between public/private is a problem,. My assumption is that public should be delineated from private. If so, we have created a public sector that has become void of accountability. I'm sorry, where in the constitution does firing a person, for their personal private feelings is out of bounds.

Freedom of Speech doesn't say that at all. Perhaps certain laws have been passed to protect employees, somewhat similar to the way tenure is. For me, tenure has never been a good thing. Everyone should go in each day and perform to the best of their ability, to provide the service they are being paid to do. No guarantees!!

Civ, please provide your thoughts on this…

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So we're re-litigating the First Amendment now?

The public sector isn't void of accountability, but the scales of justice start out being tipped signficantly in public employees' favor.

The Constitution establishes Free Speech as the baseline, similar to innocent until proven guilty.

People don't have to demonstrate their speech is allowable. Their employer (the government) has to demonstrate that their speech is not protected by the First and that's a difficult needle-threading exercise.

This is a very well-worn path legally.

Was the employee speaking in their official role or as a private citizen? If private, they are very broadly protected.

Was the speech about a matter of pubic concern? If so, they are very broadly protected.

If their private speech is so inflammatory that it damages their ability to do their job, or damages their workplace's ability to perform their functions with the public, they may be disciplined or fired. You can't have a police officer, sworn to protect the public, disparaging broad classes of people as an example. Public trust would be lost and that's vital for their job.

Courts have to look at it case-by-case. Maybe you can give some examples of specific speech that you think should be grounds to legally fire a public employee.

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Where is the constitution does protected speech have anything to do with employment? These people are not being put in a gaol...

caryking said:

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I suggest all liberals that have opinions of Charlie Kirk listen to this…. I 100% believe exactly what Charlie is saying in this video…

pic.twitter.com/vt7dOWMLm9

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 15, 2025

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What a disgusting guy he was.

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Regarding the firings of people…

I don't see this as conservative cancel culture at all. Take a look at where these people are being fired. Not all, but some are in the education field. Let's not pretend that education is some bastion of MAGA. No, they typically lean left, in their ideology. So, we should come to the conclusion that people are seeing these celebrations as horrible and they don't want these people associated with their business, faculty, etc…

Every business, school should have the right to disassociate with people that show vile actions. I'm not saying, in each case, that's the proper thing to do; rather, they should have the right to do it.

In summary, this appears to me as if we are going through a cleansing of people that showed horrible derision making. People can think certain things, no doubt; however, expressing things do have consequences, even with your freedom of speech.

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The distinction here is public/private though Cary.

In most cases, it is obviously not Constitutional to fire a public employee for their opinions, even if vile, that are expressed away from work and on their own time.

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The very fact that you say we have a distinction between public/private is a problem,. My assumption is that public should be delineated from private. If so, we have created a public sector that has become void of accountability. I'm sorry, where in the constitution does firing a person, for their personal private feelings is out of bounds.

Freedom of Speech doesn't say that at all. Perhaps certain laws have been passed to protect employees, somewhat similar to the way tenure is. For me, tenure has never been a good thing. Everyone should go in each day and perform to the best of their ability, to provide the service they are being paid to do. No guarantees!!

Civ, please provide your thoughts on this…

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So we're re-litigating the First Amendment now?

The public sector isn't void of accountability, but the scales of justice start out being tipped signficantly in public employees' favor.

The Constitution establishes Free Speech as the baseline, similar to innocent until proven guilty.

People don't have to demonstrate their speech is allowable. Their employer (the government) has to demonstrate that their speech is not protected by the First and that's a difficult needle-threading exercise.

This is a very well-worn path legally.

Was the employee speaking in their official role or as a private citizen? If private, they are very broadly protected.

Was the speech about a matter of pubic concern? If so, they are very broadly protected.

If their private speech is so inflammatory that it damages their ability to do their job, or damages their workplace's ability to perform their functions with the public, they may be disciplined or fired. You can't have a police officer, sworn to protect the public, disparaging broad classes of people as an example. Public trust would be lost and that's vital for their job.

Courts have to look at it case-by-case. Maybe you can give some examples of specific speech that you think should be grounds to legally fire a public employee.

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Where is the constitution does protected speech have anything to do with employment? These people are not being put in a gaol...

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Firing someone for their legal, constitutionally protected speech is interpreted as an abridgment of free speech.

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Regarding the firings of people…

I don't see this as conservative cancel culture at all. Take a look at where these people are being fired. Not all, but some are in the education field. Let's not pretend that education is some bastion of MAGA. No, they typically lean left, in their ideology. So, we should come to the conclusion that people are seeing these celebrations as horrible and they don't want these people associated with their business, faculty, etc…

Every business, school should have the right to disassociate with people that show vile actions. I'm not saying, in each case, that's the proper thing to do; rather, they should have the right to do it.

In summary, this appears to me as if we are going through a cleansing of people that showed horrible derision making. People can think certain things, no doubt; however, expressing things do have consequences, even with your freedom of speech.

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The distinction here is public/private though Cary.

In most cases, it is obviously not Constitutional to fire a public employee for their opinions, even if vile, that are expressed away from work and on their own time.

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The very fact that you say we have a distinction between public/private is a problem,. My assumption is that public should be delineated from private. If so, we have created a public sector that has become void of accountability. I'm sorry, where in the constitution does firing a person, for their personal private feelings is out of bounds.

Freedom of Speech doesn't say that at all. Perhaps certain laws have been passed to protect employees, somewhat similar to the way tenure is. For me, tenure has never been a good thing. Everyone should go in each day and perform to the best of their ability, to provide the service they are being paid to do. No guarantees!!

Civ, please provide your thoughts on this…

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So we're re-litigating the First Amendment now?

The public sector isn't void of accountability, but the scales of justice start out being tipped signficantly in public employees' favor.

The Constitution establishes Free Speech as the baseline, similar to innocent until proven guilty.

People don't have to demonstrate their speech is allowable. Their employer (the government) has to demonstrate that their speech is not protected by the First and that's a difficult needle-threading exercise.

This is a very well-worn path legally.

Was the employee speaking in their official role or as a private citizen? If private, they are very broadly protected.

Was the speech about a matter of pubic concern? If so, they are very broadly protected.

If their private speech is so inflammatory that it damages their ability to do their job, or damages their workplace's ability to perform their functions with the public, they may be disciplined or fired. You can't have a police officer, sworn to protect the public, disparaging broad classes of people as an example. Public trust would be lost and that's vital for their job.

Courts have to look at it case-by-case. Maybe you can give some examples of specific speech that you think should be grounds to legally fire a public employee.

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Where is the constitution does protected speech have anything to do with employment? These people are not being put in a gaol...

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Firing someone for their legal, constitutionally protected speech is interpreted as an abridgment of free speech.

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for your education...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Bas2020 said:

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Cancel culture started with leftist retrieving a tweet that somebody put out when they were 15 and then now using it to punish that person when they are 30.

Or demanding the ESPN announcer be fired because he used the words "Guerilla warfare".

If you aren't woke enough they would "cancel " you . Basically join us fully or we will go after your sponsors . Essentially a scare tactic to be liberal or not .

On the flip side we are seeing repercussions for mentally ill people celebrating an assassination.

Two totally different things .

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Yep they opened Pandora's box and they had absolutely no problem with it…now they cry. Absolutely hilarious

The "official" story with Robinson is not adding up. Texts look beyond fake, etc.

It's far more likely to me that Israel/Mossad (along with CIA) were the ones who orchestrated this assassination of Kirk, and they are framing this Robinson guy as their patsy.

As we know with the Epstein blackmail ring, Israel blackmails and controls much of our government. And so that explains how you get our FBI and CIA to go along with the cover-up.

packgrad said:

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Every single day there is rhetoric like this from the left. They are responsible for where we are today with the weaponization of the mentally ill.

An excerpt from Randi Weingarten’s new book, “Why Fascists Fear Teachers,” reveals why Trump and the far right are demeaning teachers, slashing school funding, and rewriting history.

📕 https://t.co/rxfqLv5jKE pic.twitter.com/NnTBM2mNQH

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) September 17, 2025

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She is jewish communist lunatic hell bent on indoctrinating children into the far Left agenda.

Every time she gets in front of a mic, she spazzes out like a maniac screeching and screaming. These are the type of wild-eyed nutcases that control the Marxist indoctrination in the public schools.

People like her have no business being with 100 yards of a child.

TheStorm said:

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Good grief, will somebody please get rid of this anti-semitic clown?

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anti-slimite anti-septicite

We need to get rid of you

loser

TheStorm said:

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Good grief, will somebody please get rid of this anti-semitic clown?

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You are officially a Leftist now, right?

All you do here is whine for censorship, like the commie do.

TheStorm said:

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Good grief, will somebody please get rid of this anti-semitic clown?

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Your ilk would smear Charlie Kirk as an "anti-semit" too, and call for him to be censored. Why don't you do it now, and call for all of Charlie's videos to be taken down off the internet, for daring to criticize jews.

Do you want me to post the videos again where Charlie Kirk says, quote (paraphrasing) that "jewish donors are behind the cultural Marxist agenda in America"?

Or where he explicitly says that Epstein worked for Mossad and they are using that to blackmail and control members of US Congress?

Or where Charlie specifically said that Israel is, quote, "trying to ethnically cleanse" Gaza.


Where do you get this idea that anyone who criticizes Israel or jews should have their first amendment rights stripped away, and be banned and censored and silenced??

Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel, because he started to express "anti-Semitic" views.

And now cry babies like you want to ban me for saying the same things Charlie did.

Ironic

TheStorm said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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TheStorm said:

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Good grief, will somebody please get rid of this anti-semitic clown?

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You are officially a Leftist now, right?

All you do here is whine for censorship, like the commie do.

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No. I'm just one of many that is so ****ing tired of reading your idiocy here.

Loser.

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I'm tired of the fact that you contribute NOTHING to this forum other than whining like a cry baby to censor me.

Tell us more about this "cosmic law" that no one can criticize jews or Israel?

Should Charlie Kirk have his free speech stripped of him after his death for what he said?

Why are the jews "above criticism"??

Please tell us all-knowing one.

TheStorm said:

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No. I'm just one of many that is so ****ing tired of reading your idiocy here.

Loser.

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Oh, so if you are "tired" of seeing my posts or strongly disagree with me, that gives you the "right" to whine and cry for me to be banned and censored.

Use the "ignore" button on me if you don't want to see my posts, and it triggers your sensitive little snowflake feelings so much.

But stop your whining and crying for censorship.

It's very tiresome. And pathetic.