I'm done here at IPS and at State if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke. It's ridiculous. Refuse to give my money to people that want to control narratives.
Sorry you don't understand how subscriptions work. Get mom to teach you.KKandDD said:
"I'm done here at IPS"
-guy posting on IPS
I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOLKKandDD said:
Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.
Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.
wolf howl said:Sorry you don't understand how subscriptions work. Get mom to teach you.KKandDD said:
"I'm done here at IPS"
-guy posting on IPS
And how many years now has the Left been using sports to shove the "Black Lives Matter" and LGBTQ agendas down our throats? The Left is not against injecting politics into sports. They blatantly use sports to promote their ideological and political agendas. They only have a problem with it when someone in sports voices a conservative, right-wing, or anti-Establishment viewpoint, and then they mobilize to destroy that person's life and career.wolf howl said:
I'm done here at IPS and at State if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke. It's ridiculous. Refuse to give my money to people that want to control narratives.
wolf howl said:I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOLKKandDD said:
Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.
Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.
You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.
I'm not freaking out, I'm simply withholding my money to organizations that allow voices to be censored. Enough is enough. If you support that then good for you, you're allowed, but if anyone has a shred of dignity and doesn't stand for what they think is right and supports those they oppose, then they're the fool.KKandDD said:
I'm a snowflake? I frankly don't care about the situation. Gary can get suspended, fired, continue to call games until he croaks. I do not care. He played a stupid game and got a stupid prize. The world will continue to turn.
Y'all are the ones freaking out. If you're such a big shot in the corporate world, then you'd know the employer can deal with this situation how they please.
You have reading comprehension problems? Did you see where he stated "if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke".KKandDD said:
"I'm done here at IPS"
-guy posting on IPS
If Gary would have said "down in El Paso where the poor undocumented migrants are trying to get a better life", in sympathy for them...then there would be no problem, right?KKandDD said:
Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.
Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.
ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.Packchem91 said:wolf howl said:I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOLKKandDD said:
Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.
Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.
You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.
Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.
I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.
Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow
To their credit, James and company do not censor people for their ideological views.KKandDD said:
James and company offer an incredible service to State fans and put out top notch content. They'll be just fine. Maybe I'll up my donation a few bucks a month to make up for your absence! Take care.
wolf howl said:I'm not freaking out, I'm simply withholding my money to organizations that allow voices to be censored. Enough is enough. If you support that then good for you, you're allowed, but if anyone has a shred of dignity and doesn't stand for what they think is right and supports those they oppose, then they're the fool.KKandDD said:
I'm a snowflake? I frankly don't care about the situation. Gary can get suspended, fired, continue to call games until he croaks. I do not care. He played a stupid game and got a stupid prize. The world will continue to turn.
Y'all are the ones freaking out. If you're such a big shot in the corporate world, then you'd know the employer can deal with this situation how they please.
IPS decided to lock a thread because they were afraid it was too political that the freaking voice of the Pack for decades was suspended for saying something NOT CONTROVERSIAL or offensive then that's their right as they own the site. It's also my right not to support that decision.
As their business model I'm sure they don't want to rock the boat but to look the other way means you're agreeing, and I do not and will not.
GuerrillaPack said:To their credit, James and company do not censor people for their ideological views.KKandDD said:
James and company offer an incredible service to State fans and put out top notch content. They'll be just fine. Maybe I'll up my donation a few bucks a month to make up for your absence! Take care.
You seem to be in the distinct minority here in supporting the suspension of Hahn.
I appreciate your history lesson but I've been around since the Nando days or whatever it was called WAY back in the history so I'm aware of the info provided. It's very well done otherwise I wouldn't be a customer for decades at this point. Point still stands, if Pack nation can't support Hahn then I can't support them.KKandDD said:wolf howl said:I'm not freaking out, I'm simply withholding my money to organizations that allow voices to be censored. Enough is enough. If you support that then good for you, you're allowed, but if anyone has a shred of dignity and doesn't stand for what they think is right and supports those they oppose, then they're the fool.KKandDD said:
I'm a snowflake? I frankly don't care about the situation. Gary can get suspended, fired, continue to call games until he croaks. I do not care. He played a stupid game and got a stupid prize. The world will continue to turn.
Y'all are the ones freaking out. If you're such a big shot in the corporate world, then you'd know the employer can deal with this situation how they please.
IPS decided to lock a thread because they were afraid it was too political that the freaking voice of the Pack for decades was suspended for saying something NOT CONTROVERSIAL or offensive then that's their right as they own the site. It's also my right not to support that decision.
As their business model I'm sure they don't want to rock the boat but to look the other way means you're agreeing, and I do not and will not.
James and company offer an incredible service to State fans and put out top notch content. They'll be just fine. Maybe I'll up my donation a few bucks a month to make up for your absence! Take care.
If he'd commented on a shooting and said we needed gun control, would he have been suspended? We both know the answer.Brown is Red said:
GH is well past his prime. Many State fans that are supporting him today have commented in the past that it's past time for him to retire. He's been slipping for a while.
Is there an illegal alien issue at our southern border? Yes, there has been for decades.
Did Gary Hahn need to make the comment? No.
If he had just reported the score and moved on, no one would think twice. We'd just be arguing over the FB and BB games. I don't consider his comment to be untruthful, and only borderline insensitive. If he was playing a broadcaster in a comedy and made the comment, I would probably laugh. It was still a dumb thing to say on air. He should've known that comment like that would likely cost him his job.
Or how about, for example, if a sports commentator says they support the transgender agenda and allowing biological men to compete as a "woman", such as that swimmer? No one would bat an eye.wolf howl said:If he'd commented on a shooting and said we needed gun control, would he have been suspended? We both know the answer.Brown is Red said:
GH is well past his prime. Many State fans that are supporting him today have commented in the past that it's past time for him to retire. He's been slipping for a while.
Is there an illegal alien issue at our southern border? Yes, there has been for decades.
Did Gary Hahn need to make the comment? No.
If he had just reported the score and moved on, no one would think twice. We'd just be arguing over the FB and BB games. I don't consider his comment to be untruthful, and only borderline insensitive. If he was playing a broadcaster in a comedy and made the comment, I would probably laugh. It was still a dumb thing to say on air. He should've known that comment like that would likely cost him his job.
wolf howl said:I appreciate your history lesson but I've been around since the Nando days or whatever it was called WAY back in the history so I'm aware of the info provided. It's very well done otherwise I wouldn't be a customer for decades at this point. Point still stands, if Pack nation can't support Hahn then I can't support them.KKandDD said:wolf howl said:I'm not freaking out, I'm simply withholding my money to organizations that allow voices to be censored. Enough is enough. If you support that then good for you, you're allowed, but if anyone has a shred of dignity and doesn't stand for what they think is right and supports those they oppose, then they're the fool.KKandDD said:
I'm a snowflake? I frankly don't care about the situation. Gary can get suspended, fired, continue to call games until he croaks. I do not care. He played a stupid game and got a stupid prize. The world will continue to turn.
Y'all are the ones freaking out. If you're such a big shot in the corporate world, then you'd know the employer can deal with this situation how they please.
IPS decided to lock a thread because they were afraid it was too political that the freaking voice of the Pack for decades was suspended for saying something NOT CONTROVERSIAL or offensive then that's their right as they own the site. It's also my right not to support that decision.
As their business model I'm sure they don't want to rock the boat but to look the other way means you're agreeing, and I do not and will not.
James and company offer an incredible service to State fans and put out top notch content. They'll be just fine. Maybe I'll up my donation a few bucks a month to make up for your absence! Take care.
GuerrillaPack said:To their credit, James and company do not censor people for their ideological views.KKandDD said:
James and company offer an incredible service to State fans and put out top notch content. They'll be just fine. Maybe I'll up my donation a few bucks a month to make up for your absence! Take care.
You seem to be in the distinct minority here in supporting the suspension of Hahn.
I agree with u almost 100%..... I think:Brown is Red said:
GH is well past his prime. Many State fans that are supporting him today have commented in the past that it's past time for him to retire. He's been slipping for a while.
Is there an illegal alien issue at our southern border? Yes, there has been for decades.
Did Gary Hahn need to make the comment? No.
If he had just reported the score and moved on, no one would think twice. We'd just be arguing over the FB and BB games. I don't consider his comment to be untruthful, and only borderline insensitive. If he was playing a broadcaster in a comedy and made the comment, I would probably laugh. It was still a dumb thing to say on air. He should've known that comment like that would likely cost him his job.
Agree, but whether they'll support a wrongful termination suit is at least questionable.Werewolf said:I agree with u almost 100%..... I think:Brown is Red said:
GH is well past his prime. Many State fans that are supporting him today have commented in the past that it's past time for him to retire. He's been slipping for a while.
Is there an illegal alien issue at our southern border? Yes, there has been for decades.
Did Gary Hahn need to make the comment? No.
If he had just reported the score and moved on, no one would think twice. We'd just be arguing over the FB and BB games. I don't consider his comment to be untruthful, and only borderline insensitive. If he was playing a broadcaster in a comedy and made the comment, I would probably laugh. It was still a dumb thing to say on air. He should've known that comment like that would likely cost him his job.
- GH is "past his prime" not "well past his prime"
- "borderline insensitive" by today's standards, yes, but the two words "illegal" and "alien" are true and correct
Do you say the same every time ESPN spouts their woke values? Gun control, racism, etc.? Or we driving on a one way street here?KKandDD said:
It's not remotely close to being a racist comment. That's absurd. It was unprofessional, unnecessary, and completely random, but not racist.
That company can do as they choose. I'm just glad I don't reside or am employed in that environment. I could never see myself returning to the RTP area for that reason alone; its changed dramatically since I left in the 80s.Oldsouljer said:Agree, but whether they'll support a wrongful termination suit is at least questionable.Werewolf said:I agree with u almost 100%..... I think:Brown is Red said:
GH is well past his prime. Many State fans that are supporting him today have commented in the past that it's past time for him to retire. He's been slipping for a while.
Is there an illegal alien issue at our southern border? Yes, there has been for decades.
Did Gary Hahn need to make the comment? No.
If he had just reported the score and moved on, no one would think twice. We'd just be arguing over the FB and BB games. I don't consider his comment to be untruthful, and only borderline insensitive. If he was playing a broadcaster in a comedy and made the comment, I would probably laugh. It was still a dumb thing to say on air. He should've known that comment like that would likely cost him his job.
- GH is "past his prime" not "well past his prime"
- "borderline insensitive" by today's standards, yes, but the two words "illegal" and "alien" are true and correct
LOL at this poster literally threatening to cancel this website and his university over opinions that dissent from his. Talk about wanting to control narratives.wolf howl said:
I'm done here at IPS and at State if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke. It's ridiculous. Refuse to give my money to people that want to control narratives.
He's standing up for the right to speak freely. Something we're all too ready to give up. IPS does a fantastic job with allowing free speech here.......MrStateFanGuy said:LOL at this poster literally threatening to cancel this website and his university over opinions that dissent from his. Talk about wanting to control narratives.wolf howl said:
I'm done here at IPS and at State if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke. It's ridiculous. Refuse to give my money to people that want to control narratives.
LOL at this poster not understanding the original thread was locked to suppress discussion over the literal voice of the Wolfpack being suspended. My entire point is it should not have been locked where it was at. We can't support our own when it's remotely inconvenient.MrStateFanGuy said:LOL at this poster literally threatening to cancel this website and his university over opinions that dissent from his. Talk about wanting to control narratives.wolf howl said:
I'm done here at IPS and at State if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke. It's ridiculous. Refuse to give my money to people that want to control narratives.