Wufpack17 said:

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Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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They actually cancelled the Sun Bowl fan fest because the convention center was being used to house illegal immigrants/aliens. They've had a huge recent surge, hence the state of emergency was declared. Normal Sun Bowl activities were affected by the number of illegal aliens currently in the city, so Gary said nothing that was either wrong or political.

Illegal Aliens is not a political term. Now, how to deal with the illegal alien problem is a political issue. Gary said nothing that could be called political.

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I agree with everything you said 100%. But GH shouldn't have used his platform to say what he said. I'm perfectly ok with him saying it using any avenue but the one his job provides. If I talk politics or religion at my work I get in trouble. It's a no no and it's written into my employment agreement. And we are encouraged to practice our faith and participate in the political process outside of work

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I bet if you talked the correct politics you would be a-okay. Anything that is true and ruffles feathers? You are toast.

At least, that's how it is at my company. We have diversity trainings and every "example" they provide the offender is a white male.

Basically, corporations are kowtowing to the far left demands. Gary just a latest example of that.

The sun bowl was IN FACT played among illegal immigration crisis. Anyone paying attention to the national news understands that. The Sun Bowl even put out a PR regarding it.

Was the issue that Gary used "illegal aliens "?

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Wufpack17 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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SaltWaterWolf said:

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DJncsu13 said:

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Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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They actually cancelled the Sun Bowl fan fest because the convention center was being used to house illegal immigrants/aliens. They've had a huge recent surge, hence the state of emergency was declared. Normal Sun Bowl activities were affected by the number of illegal aliens currently in the city, so Gary said nothing that was either wrong or political.

Illegal Aliens is not a political term. Now, how to deal with the illegal alien problem is a political issue. Gary said nothing that could be called political.

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I agree with everything you said 100%. But GH shouldn't have used his platform to say what he said. I'm perfectly ok with him saying it using any avenue but the one his job provides. If I talk politics or religion at my work I get in trouble. It's a no no and it's written into my employment agreement. And we are encouraged to practice our faith and participate in the political process outside of work

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I bet if you talked the correct politics you would be a-okay. Anything that is true and ruffles feathers? You are toast.

At least, that's how it is at my company. We have diversity trainings and every "example" they provide the offender is a white male.

Basically, corporations are kowtowing to the far left demands. Gary just a latest example of that.

The sun bowl was IN FACT played among illegal immigration crisis. Anyone paying attention to the national news understands that. The Sun Bowl even put out a PR regarding it.

Was the issue that Gary used "illegal aliens "?

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caryking said:

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Glasswolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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SaltWaterWolf said:

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DJncsu13 said:

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Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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They actually cancelled the Sun Bowl fan fest because the convention center was being used to house illegal immigrants/aliens. They've had a huge recent surge, hence the state of emergency was declared. Normal Sun Bowl activities were affected by the number of illegal aliens currently in the city, so Gary said nothing that was either wrong or political.

Illegal Aliens is not a political term. Now, how to deal with the illegal alien problem is a political issue. Gary said nothing that could be called political.

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I agree with everything you said 100%. But GH shouldn't have used his platform to say what he said. I'm perfectly ok with him saying it using any avenue but the one his job provides. If I talk politics or religion at my work I get in trouble. It's a no no and it's written into my employment agreement. And we are encouraged to practice our faith and participate in the political process outside of work

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I bet if you talked the correct politics you would be a-okay. Anything that is true and ruffles feathers? You are toast.

At least, that's how it is at my company. We have diversity trainings and every "example" they provide the offender is a white male.

Basically, corporations are kowtowing to the far left demands. Gary just a latest example of that.

The sun bowl was IN FACT played among illegal immigration crisis. Anyone paying attention to the national news understands that. The Sun Bowl even put out a PR regarding it.

Was the issue that Gary used "illegal aliens "?

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Define "correct politics" Everyone has a different view of what that is.

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Glass, if you don't know what correct politics are, in our current societal place, then, you are about as mainstream of a news watcher/reader there is.

That's not meant to be disparaging at all, it's just that MSM is putting out one narrative and other media is putting out a different narrative. I mostly watch/read the other narrative; however, my most viewed media is Tim Poole.

Yes, I know… some will say they are not real media and to some degree, I would say… yep. That said, they certainly have an interesting societal take on where we are…. And that is from a bunch of people that toed the MSM line for a long time. Now, they question everything!

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOL

You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.

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Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.

I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.

Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow

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ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.

And, again, "illegal aliens" isn't offensive. LOL It's the legit term for people that are in ANY country illegally. JFC

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.

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And now the Gary Hahn situation is a major national news story when it should not have been. Learfield should have had a private discussion with Gary and moved on, but now N. C. State is being pummeled by the news cycle. Nobody will know he works for Learfield, but for the generation that has the attention span of about 30 seconds will look upon N. C. State very badly. What else is new. UNC cheated their athletes and it's opponents with a scandal that went on for decades and it got less coverage than this will.

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To be fair, the sitting president has said worse but he gets away with because of the letter by his name and his "old age".

It's selective outrage.

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It's just the exercise of power. The outrage itself is fake. Nobody is *genuinely personally offended* by the comments and those who say they are are lying.

Oh no, he used a phrase that it has been decided for us is off limits now. **** them.

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Wufpack17 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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SaltWaterWolf said:

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DJncsu13 said:

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Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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They actually cancelled the Sun Bowl fan fest because the convention center was being used to house illegal immigrants/aliens. They've had a huge recent surge, hence the state of emergency was declared. Normal Sun Bowl activities were affected by the number of illegal aliens currently in the city, so Gary said nothing that was either wrong or political.

Illegal Aliens is not a political term. Now, how to deal with the illegal alien problem is a political issue. Gary said nothing that could be called political.

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I agree with everything you said 100%. But GH shouldn't have used his platform to say what he said. I'm perfectly ok with him saying it using any avenue but the one his job provides. If I talk politics or religion at my work I get in trouble. It's a no no and it's written into my employment agreement. And we are encouraged to practice our faith and participate in the political process outside of work

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I bet if you talked the correct politics you would be a-okay. Anything that is true and ruffles feathers? You are toast.

At least, that's how it is at my company. We have diversity trainings and every "example" they provide the offender is a white male.

Basically, corporations are kowtowing to the far left demands. Gary just a latest example of that.

The sun bowl was IN FACT played among illegal immigration crisis. Anyone paying attention to the national news understands that. The Sun Bowl even put out a PR regarding it.

Was the issue that Gary used "illegal aliens "?

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Define "correct politics" Everyone has a different view of what that is.

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In the corporate world it's whatever is being pushed by the left.

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.

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And now the Gary Hahn situation is a major national news story when it should not have been. Learfield should have had a private discussion with Gary and moved on, but now N. C. State is being pummeled by the news cycle. Nobody will know he works for Learfield, but for the generation that has the attention span of about 30 seconds will look upon N. C. State very badly. What else is new. UNC cheated their athletes and it's opponents with a scandal that went on for decades and it got less coverage than this will.

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To be fair, the sitting president has said worse but he gets away with because of the letter by his name and his "old age".

It's selective outrage.

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It's just the exercise of power. The outrage itself is fake. Nobody is *genuinely personally offended* by the comments and those who say they are are lying.

Oh no, he used a phrase that it has been decided for us is off limits now. **** them.

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Who decided it's off limits?

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Media-educational industrial complex. The same places push all sorts of fake language on the population. Here's a recent example, from Stanford: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/stanfordlanguage.pdf

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Glasswolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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Glasswolf said:

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SaltWaterWolf said:

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DJncsu13 said:

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Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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They actually cancelled the Sun Bowl fan fest because the convention center was being used to house illegal immigrants/aliens. They've had a huge recent surge, hence the state of emergency was declared. Normal Sun Bowl activities were affected by the number of illegal aliens currently in the city, so Gary said nothing that was either wrong or political.

Illegal Aliens is not a political term. Now, how to deal with the illegal alien problem is a political issue. Gary said nothing that could be called political.

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I agree with everything you said 100%. But GH shouldn't have used his platform to say what he said. I'm perfectly ok with him saying it using any avenue but the one his job provides. If I talk politics or religion at my work I get in trouble. It's a no no and it's written into my employment agreement. And we are encouraged to practice our faith and participate in the political process outside of work

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I bet if you talked the correct politics you would be a-okay. Anything that is true and ruffles feathers? You are toast.

At least, that's how it is at my company. We have diversity trainings and every "example" they provide the offender is a white male.

Basically, corporations are kowtowing to the far left demands. Gary just a latest example of that.

The sun bowl was IN FACT played among illegal immigration crisis. Anyone paying attention to the national news understands that. The Sun Bowl even put out a PR regarding it.

Was the issue that Gary used "illegal aliens "?

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Define "correct politics" Everyone has a different view of what that is.

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In the corporate world it's whatever is being pushed by the left.

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Actually my company leans heavily to the Right. At least the ownership does.

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bgr3 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.

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And now the Gary Hahn situation is a major national news story when it should not have been. Learfield should have had a private discussion with Gary and moved on, but now N. C. State is being pummeled by the news cycle. Nobody will know he works for Learfield, but for the generation that has the attention span of about 30 seconds will look upon N. C. State very badly. What else is new. UNC cheated their athletes and it's opponents with a scandal that went on for decades and it got less coverage than this will.

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To be fair, the sitting president has said worse but he gets away with because of the letter by his name and his "old age".

It's selective outrage.

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It's just the exercise of power. The outrage itself is fake. Nobody is *genuinely personally offended* by the comments and those who say they are are lying.

Oh no, he used a phrase that it has been decided for us is off limits now. **** them.

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Who decided it's off limits?

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Media-educational industrial complex. The same places push all sorts of fake language on the population. Here's a recent example, from Stanford: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/stanfordlanguage.pdf

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And Brandeis: https://sites.google.com/brandeis.edu/parcsuggestedlanguagelist/categories

And in the works cited from Stanford, there it is, illegal immigrant/alien as a "slur."

Next question.

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910wolf said:

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bgr3 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.

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And now the Gary Hahn situation is a major national news story when it should not have been. Learfield should have had a private discussion with Gary and moved on, but now N. C. State is being pummeled by the news cycle. Nobody will know he works for Learfield, but for the generation that has the attention span of about 30 seconds will look upon N. C. State very badly. What else is new. UNC cheated their athletes and it's opponents with a scandal that went on for decades and it got less coverage than this will.

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To be fair, the sitting president has said worse but he gets away with because of the letter by his name and his "old age".

It's selective outrage.

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It's just the exercise of power. The outrage itself is fake. Nobody is *genuinely personally offended* by the comments and those who say they are are lying.

Oh no, he used a phrase that it has been decided for us is off limits now. **** them.

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Who decided it's off limits?

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Media-educational industrial complex. The same places push all sorts of fake language on the population. Here's a recent example, from Stanford: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/stanfordlanguage.pdf

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And Brandeis: https://sites.google.com/brandeis.edu/parcsuggestedlanguagelist/categories

And in the works cited from Stanford, there it is, illegal immigrant/alien as a "slur."

Next question.

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This list has the word "guys" being offensive?!?!

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.

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And now the Gary Hahn situation is a major national news story when it should not have been. Learfield should have had a private discussion with Gary and moved on, but now N. C. State is being pummeled by the news cycle. Nobody will know he works for Learfield, but for the generation that has the attention span of about 30 seconds will look upon N. C. State very badly. What else is new. UNC cheated their athletes and it's opponents with a scandal that went on for decades and it got less coverage than this will.

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To be fair, the sitting president has said worse but he gets away with because of the letter by his name and his "old age".

It's selective outrage.

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It's just the exercise of power. The outrage itself is fake. Nobody is *genuinely personally offended* by the comments and those who say they are are lying.

Oh no, he used a phrase that it has been decided for us is off limits now. **** them.

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Who decided it's off limits?

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Media-educational industrial complex. The same places push all sorts of fake language on the population. Here's a recent example, from Stanford: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/stanfordlanguage.pdf

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And Brandeis: https://sites.google.com/brandeis.edu/parcsuggestedlanguagelist/categories

And in the works cited from Stanford, there it is, illegal immigrant/alien as a "slur."

Next question.

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Oh, Stanford decided that? Now it makes sense.

They are in the same state that put a cat litter box in a girls bathroom because a 7 year old claimed to be a cat.

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ncsuchris said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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bgr3 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.

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And now the Gary Hahn situation is a major national news story when it should not have been. Learfield should have had a private discussion with Gary and moved on, but now N. C. State is being pummeled by the news cycle. Nobody will know he works for Learfield, but for the generation that has the attention span of about 30 seconds will look upon N. C. State very badly. What else is new. UNC cheated their athletes and it's opponents with a scandal that went on for decades and it got less coverage than this will.

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To be fair, the sitting president has said worse but he gets away with because of the letter by his name and his "old age".

It's selective outrage.

---

It's just the exercise of power. The outrage itself is fake. Nobody is *genuinely personally offended* by the comments and those who say they are are lying.

Oh no, he used a phrase that it has been decided for us is off limits now. **** them.

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Who decided it's off limits?

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Media-educational industrial complex. The same places push all sorts of fake language on the population. Here's a recent example, from Stanford: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/stanfordlanguage.pdf

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And Brandeis: https://sites.google.com/brandeis.edu/parcsuggestedlanguagelist/categories

And in the works cited from Stanford, there it is, illegal immigrant/alien as a "slur."

Next question.

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Oh, Stanford decided that? Now it makes sense.

They are in the same state that put a cat litter box in a girls bathroom because a 7 year old claimed to be a cat.

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(shhh...no one tell him the cat thing was debunked and never actually happened)

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Wufpack17 said:

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Illegal immigration is an act of entering the US illegally. I'm not sure how that's a slur. Maybe the woke people out there can explain that one to me.

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Wufpack17 said:

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Can't use illegal alien, but can encourage children to change their identity.


What a sane world we live in.

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Packchem91 said:

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Wufpack17 said:

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Can't use illegal alien, but can encourage children to change their identity.


What a sane world we live in.

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On Which game broadcast have you heard that plea?

At least compare apples to apples

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