wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOL

You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.

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Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.

I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.

Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow

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ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.

And, again, "illegal aliens" isn't offensive. LOL It's the legit term for people that are in ANY country illegally. JFC

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In what context? If an espn game announcer said, "at abgame in Lubbock today where gun proliferation is responsible for hundreds of Texans getting killed every year the Raiders beat the….", that announcer would get into trouble.

Because it's completely out of context. What happens on sports center or their liberal talk shows has zero to do with what happens on a game broadcast.

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I get the argument that it wasn't the appropriate time or place for the comment.

But I've seen people call this a racist comment. Have we really gotten to the point that people think "Illegal aliens" is racist? It's a factual term.

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precisely.

We all need to be thinking long and hard about where all this **** goes over time.

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wolf howl said:

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I'm done here at IPS and at State if you can't have an opinion or voice that dissents from the woke. It's ridiculous. Refuse to give my money to people that want to control narratives.

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LOL at this poster literally threatening to cancel this website and his university over opinions that dissent from his. Talk about wanting to control narratives.

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He's standing up for the right to speak freely. Something we're all too ready to give up. IPS does a fantastic job with allowing free speech here.......

I'd been banned on twitter for 4-5 years until recently. Facebook took me down numerous times for freely speaking and I managed to discontinue posting such that I was restored from FB jail. Later, FB determined I was participating and sharing info via MESSENGER and removed my account permanently. You just don't get it I'm sure.

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People like him will never get it. They think ANY dissenting opinion should be eradicated. Even in the face of Twitterfiles and sharing of internal emails and messages literally proving exactly what has been said for years about suppression and controlling narratives by the left, they are ok with it. I'd argue the vast majority have no clue about #TwitterFiles as they only slurp what is fed to them by main stream media.

Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOL

You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.

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Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.

I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.

Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow

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ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.

And, again, "illegal aliens" isn't offensive. LOL It's the legit term for people that are in ANY country illegally. JFC

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In what context? If an espn game announcer said, "at abgame in Lubbock today where gun proliferation is responsible for hundreds of Texans getting killed every year the Raiders beat the….", that announcer would get into trouble.

Because it's completely out of context. What happens on sports center or their liberal talk shows has zero to do with what happens on a game broadcast.

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Can you name a single announcer suspended or canceled for being too far left and saying that? Announcer, news anchor, talk show host, radio personality, anything? You can't.

That's the issue here. No dissenting opinions are allowed. You are fine with that control of everything, I am not.

wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOL

You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.

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Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.

I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.

Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow

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ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.

And, again, "illegal aliens" isn't offensive. LOL It's the legit term for people that are in ANY country illegally. JFC

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In what context? If an espn game announcer said, "at abgame in Lubbock today where gun proliferation is responsible for hundreds of Texans getting killed every year the Raiders beat the….", that announcer would get into trouble.

Because it's completely out of context. What happens on sports center or their liberal talk shows has zero to do with what happens on a game broadcast.

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Can you name a single announcer suspended or canceled for being too far left and saying that? Announcer, news anchor, talk show host, radio personality, anything? You can't.

That's the issue here. No dissenting opinions are allowed. You are fine with that control of everything, I am not.

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Can you name one who said taht in a game situation amd got away with it

How about. Hey joe, I'm Oklahoma City tonight, where right wing rads are threats to blowing up federal buildings, the Thunder beat xxxx?

Give me an example?
Not sports center crap….. An in-game game discussion.

I think people seem to be conveniently ignoring that Gary is a contract employee with Learfield, not NC State. Not knowing what is exactly in his contract with them, I can only speculate that he broke something in the contract language where the punishment became an indefinite suspension.

This is really not a free speech issue, the man signed a contract, made a clunky attempt at a joke that probably violated the contract he signed.

This whataboutism about double standards is a really shoddy argument at this point. I recognize there's the possibility of a double standard every day with respect to all media, but it really has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Remember, contracts don't have feelings.

Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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". . . the Sun Bowl and amongst all the illegal aliens down in El Paso, it's UCLA 14 and Pittsburgh 6,"

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I wonder what Learfield is actually concerned about here.

wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOL

You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.

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Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.

I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.

Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow

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ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.

And, again, "illegal aliens" isn't offensive. LOL It's the legit term for people that are in ANY country illegally. JFC

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In what context? If an espn game announcer said, "at abgame in Lubbock today where gun proliferation is responsible for hundreds of Texans getting killed every year the Raiders beat the….", that announcer would get into trouble.

Because it's completely out of context. What happens on sports center or their liberal talk shows has zero to do with what happens on a game broadcast.

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Can you name a single announcer suspended or canceled for being too far left and saying that? Announcer, news anchor, talk show host, radio personality, anything? You can't.

That's the issue here. No dissenting opinions are allowed. You are fine with that control of everything, I am not.

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Can you name one who said taht in a game situation amd got away with it

How about. Hey joe, I'm Oklahoma City tonight, where right wing rads are threats to blowing up federal buildings, the Thunder beat xxxx?

Give me an example?
Not sports center crap….. An in-game game discussion.

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Go back to 2020 leading up to the election and they all were talking about how racist you were. I stopped watching sports because every single broadcast included leftist talking points to open every contest and during it.

https://mashable.com/article/college-gameday-kirk-herbstreit-racism-speech

Is saying the words "illegal aliens" hurtful to you? Is that "right wing" to you?

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Lol, that's your example? So you chose something that is definitely NOT like what Hahn did?
I asked you for an example where a game announcer makes a blatant regional political statement , and you reference a game day feature where Herbstreit implores people to do better?

Yeah, with rationalizations like yours, no wonder we can't all just get along.

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Asylum seekers aren't "illegal aliens"

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Oh the "undocumented" immigrants" sighting. If you cross the border illegally, then you are indeed an illegal alien. There is a lawful way to get into the United States, but if you choose to come in and cross the border in the dark of night in the desert or the Rio Grande Valley, you are breaking the law. Unfortunately the law is not getting enforced anywhere near enough.

Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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Packchem91 said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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I've been in senior leadership in fortune 40 companies for years but please tell me how the "real world" works. LOL

You and other snowflakes were butt hurt by him saying "illegal aliens". Let's all be real and agree that's not offensive in any way, shape or form and then reassess the situation.

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Send an email to your entire organization on Tuesday about a new "fill in the blank" to be installed in southern Texas where all the illegal immigrants are, and see how that goes over for you , lol.

I can't imagine an industry where an out-of-context comment that is dripping in political sentiment like that would not draw extremely negative reaction.

Context matters. Discussion of illegal immigration is a major topic and should be able to be discussed, but when you tie a comment completely out of context, you reap what you sow

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ESPN literally does this every day. Every single day. Gun control. "Racism". You name it. It is 100% allowed IF it follows the leftist playbook. Name a SINGE instance where someone went too far on the left on air with their opinions and got canceled. Please.

And, again, "illegal aliens" isn't offensive. LOL It's the legit term for people that are in ANY country illegally. JFC

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In what context? If an espn game announcer said, "at abgame in Lubbock today where gun proliferation is responsible for hundreds of Texans getting killed every year the Raiders beat the….", that announcer would get into trouble.

Because it's completely out of context. What happens on sports center or their liberal talk shows has zero to do with what happens on a game broadcast.

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Can you name a single announcer suspended or canceled for being too far left and saying that? Announcer, news anchor, talk show host, radio personality, anything? You can't.

That's the issue here. No dissenting opinions are allowed. You are fine with that control of everything, I am not.

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Can you name one who said taht in a game situation amd got away with it

How about. Hey joe, I'm Oklahoma City tonight, where right wing rads are threats to blowing up federal buildings, the Thunder beat xxxx?

Give me an example?
Not sports center crap….. An in-game game discussion.

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Go back to 2020 leading up to the election and they all were talking about how racist you were. I stopped watching sports because every single broadcast included leftist talking points to open every contest and during it.

https://mashable.com/article/college-gameday-kirk-herbstreit-racism-speech

Is saying the words "illegal aliens" hurtful to you? Is that "right wing" to you?

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Lol, that's your example? So you chose something that is definitely NOT like what Hahn did?
I asked you for an example where a game announcer makes a blatant regional political statement , and you reference a game day feature where Herbstreit implores people to do better?

Yeah, with rationalizations like yours, no wonder we can't all just get along.

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Just give up. You can't win with the binary brainwashing, unfortunately too many people have gotten completely sucked in and lost their common sense.

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Didn't realize El Paso is operating under a state of emergency due to all the immigrants seeking asylum. Is it really that big of a deal for Gary to point out what has become a crisis situation down there??

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They actually cancelled the Sun Bowl fan fest because the convention center was being used to house illegal immigrants/aliens. They've had a huge recent surge, hence the state of emergency was declared. Normal Sun Bowl activities were affected by the number of illegal aliens currently in the city, so Gary said nothing that was either wrong or political.

Illegal Aliens is not a political term. Now, how to deal with the illegal alien problem is a political issue. Gary said nothing that could be called political.

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wolf howl said:

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It's not remotely close to being a racist comment. That's absurd. It was unprofessional, unnecessary, and completely random, but not racist.

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Do you say the same every time ESPN spouts their woke values? Gun control, racism, etc.? Or we driving on a one way street here?

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Did you complain when Jemelle Hill got suspended by ESPN for calling Trump a White Supremacist?

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Lol. That's untrue though. What Hahn said wasnt.

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packgrad said:

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Glasswolf said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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It's not remotely close to being a racist comment. That's absurd. It was unprofessional, unnecessary, and completely random, but not racist.

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Do you say the same every time ESPN spouts their woke values? Gun control, racism, etc.? Or we driving on a one way street here?

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Did you complain when Jemelle Hill got suspended by ESPN for calling Trump a White Supremacist?

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Lol. That's untrue though. What Hahn said wasnt.

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Untrue to some, true to others. See how this works? And nobody tried to cancel this being discussed. Steve/James just didn't want it on the sports forums.

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That's fine they didn't want it on the sports board. Untrue to some and true to others is complete nonsense, and again the situation is not even remotely comparable anyway. See how this works?

AnaeAnae said:

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Asylum seekers aren't "illegal aliens"

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I'm not sure if this is a joke…

That said, the US does not have anything like an economic asylum laws. These people are coming here for a better (I can't blame them). While we're at it, let's just open things up for an additional 4B people. Most, in the world are seeking a better life…

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packgrad said:

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Glasswolf said:

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wolf howl said:

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KKandDD said:

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It's not remotely close to being a racist comment. That's absurd. It was unprofessional, unnecessary, and completely random, but not racist.

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Do you say the same every time ESPN spouts their woke values? Gun control, racism, etc.? Or we driving on a one way street here?

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Did you complain when Jemelle Hill got suspended by ESPN for calling Trump a White Supremacist?

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Lol. That's untrue though. What Hahn said wasnt.

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Untrue to some, true to others. See how this works? And nobody tried to cancel this being discussed. Steve/James just didn't want it on the sports forums.

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Glass, the "true" statement is not accurate, at all. No one can prove (essentially saying it's true) anyone as a racist, unless the person comes out and says they are. Now, you can have an opinion…. That, is fair game, all day long.

So, be careful when using "matter of fact" comments, when accusing someone of being a racist.

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Have none of y'all worked jobs? When you say dumb **** there are consequences, it's a fairly simple concept. It has nothing to do with politics, ideology, whatever you want to call it.

Gary hopefully won't and shouldn't be fired over it but he goofed and Learfield did something about it. Big whoop. Readjust your tin foil hats and settle down.

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It appears Gary was referencing the immigration crisis in El Paso. One that resulted in the Sun Bowl moving several activities and cancelling events because of it. Illegal immigrants are literally sleeping on sidewalks outside of the stadium.

It's a major national news story.