TRUMP 2024

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packgrad
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"Qualified immunity".

Excellent 13 post thread.
Civilized
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.
he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.


Can't blame this guy for his decisions. Can't blame the woman (Goode) for her actions…I'm starting to see a pattern where we only blame the officers?

Who exactly would you like to see investigate this situation?

A unarmed man was shot 10 times.

Do you agree an investigation is warranted?

Given the feds' vocal presumption of guilt 5 seconds after the shooting occurred we all have serious doubts they could conduct any remotely thorough, impartial, and ultimately transparent investigation but they definitely need to attempt one, right?
packgrad
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How many times he was shot is irrelevant. Thats just sensationalism. If they have reason to fire once, they have reason to fire 10 times, or 3 times in the case of the lesbian that tried to run over the officer). This has been well established.

They are doing an investigation. Just like in the lesbian case. It won't go the way the cheerleaders hope though.

Hindsight is a luxury the officers don't have. It's clear that during the struggle where he resisted arrest that he had been disarmed, someone shouted gun, the gun discharged, and the guy was subsequently shot by the officers trying to arrest him. **** luck for him.

Quite frankly it's another example of how he didn't listen to his CCP training. When armed you especially don't insert yourself into situations like this. He did. And then had **** luck when the firearm discharged. The officers acted appropriately. The person shot didn't. That's why he's dead.

Investigation complete.
Gulfstream4
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.
he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.


Can't blame this guy for his decisions. Can't blame the woman (Goode) for her actions…I'm starting to see a pattern where we only blame the officers?

Who exactly would you like to see investigate this situation?
you love to not read what I'm saying. You guys have come to the conclusion that these ICE officers acting 100% correctly and that this guy is 100% at fault. All I'm asking is that there's an investigation.

I frankly do not care if there is criminal charges. What I care about is figuring out what went wrong - because an unarmed person getting shot is what I consider something going wrong - that maybe agents can learn from this incident and do things differently next time.

I do not understand why that isn't a reasonable opinion of the situation, other than you guys can't admit that sometimes this administration screws up, therefore you take this impossible stupid hardline stance for people in area who live amongst immigrants do not have constitutional rights, but you do if you don't live in an area where an ICE operation may occur.

Just don't get it, that's all. I know I'm never going to convince this groups how concerning this is for all of us, but you all seem to think Republicans will control all three branches forever. I am worried about the future, you are stuck in the present with blinders on the future.

Commence mocking me Gulf for my fear we've ****ed up royally.


What went wrong? How much time do you have buddy?

It starts with Joe Biden (Mr. Obama) flooding the country with millions of ILLEGALS NOT IMMIGRANTS hoping to import a new voter base of cradle to grave government dependent voters. Then we have sanctuary states and cities refusing to comply with federal law. Releasing violent illegal criminals back onto the streets again and again all while refusing to work with ICE. Then we have the low information white guilt liberals made up mostly of weak men and angry women who are upset with the way their miserable lives have turned out. Then we have paid protesters who can't get a real job encouraged by the MSM to "protest" and interfere with ICE who are doing the exact same job they have been doing for years.

All of this is a mess that someone must clean up. Everything liberalism touches eventually turns to sh*t and then liberals complain when it a messy clean up.


I hope this helps? Like and follow for more real world enlightenment.

caryking
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.

he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.

Hokie, the very fact he was engaging with the women's issue is a problem. Also, how do you know he was already disarmed? Actually, I really don't care. The guy should not have gotten involved. There is a time and place for people to get involved. That was not one of them!

at some point, people need to let the damn law enforcement do their job! If they do their job wrong, then hopefully the system will fix things. You know, kind of like Civ says… let the courts do their thing, right?
Gulfstream4
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.
he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.


Can't blame this guy for his decisions. Can't blame the woman (Goode) for her actions…I'm starting to see a pattern where we only blame the officers?

Who exactly would you like to see investigate this situation?

A unarmed man was shot 10 times.

Do you agree an investigation is warranted?

Given the feds' vocal presumption of guilt 5 seconds after the shooting occurred we all have serious doubts they could conduct any remotely thorough, impartial, and ultimately transparent investigation but they definitely need to attempt one, right?


Local authorities have been asked to assist ICE for more than a month. The guy out smarted by third world criminals to the tune of a billion dollars that you thought should be VP said no.

NOW you want the local government to get involved and do the investigation? In what world does this make sense?
hokiewolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.
he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.


Can't blame this guy for his decisions. Can't blame the woman (Goode) for her actions…I'm starting to see a pattern where we only blame the officers?

Who exactly would you like to see investigate this situation?

A unarmed man was shot 10 times.

Do you agree an investigation is warranted?

Given the feds' vocal presumption of guilt 5 seconds after the shooting occurred we all have serious doubts they could conduct any remotely thorough, impartial, and ultimately transparent investigation but they definitely need to attempt one, right?


Local authorities have been asked to assist ICE for more than a month. The guy out smarted by third world criminals to the tune of a billion dollars that you thought should be VP said no.

NOW you want the local government to get involved and do the investigation? In what world does this make sense?
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hokiewolf
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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.

he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.

Hokie, the very fact he was engaging with the women's issue is a problem. Also, how do you know he was already disarmed? Actually, I really don't care. The guy should not have gotten involved. There is a time and place for people to get involved. That was not one of them!

at some point, people need to let the damn law enforcement do their job! If they do their job wrong, then hopefully the system will fix things. You know, kind of like Civ says… let the courts do their thing, right?
all I'm saying is putting 100% of the blame on this guy is wrong. That's all
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.
he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.


Can't blame this guy for his decisions. Can't blame the woman (Goode) for her actions…I'm starting to see a pattern where we only blame the officers?

Who exactly would you like to see investigate this situation?

A unarmed man was shot 10 times.

Do you agree an investigation is warranted?

Given the feds' vocal presumption of guilt 5 seconds after the shooting occurred we all have serious doubts they could conduct any remotely thorough, impartial, and ultimately transparent investigation but they definitely need to attempt one, right?


Local authorities have been asked to assist ICE for more than a month. The guy out smarted by third world criminals to the tune of a billion dollars that you thought should be VP said no.

NOW you want the local government to get involved and do the investigation? In what world does this make sense?



I wonder can Civ and Dave request a "remotely thorough, impartial, and ultimately transparent investigation" into whether the guy committed 2 felonies before being shot. I know they want to blame the officers for the shooting, but can they at least admit that the guy committed 2 felonies?

I also am enjoying how they both keep propagating the myth that there won't be an investigation. Dudes literally have zero integrity when there is an opportunity to weaponize death.
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#Sieve, its grass roots, right?


Apparently yesterday's victim was also part of the Signal Chat.

https://truthsocial.com/@Qanon76/posts/115956903489553144
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Sources say…someone close to the situation….trust me bro…
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, its grass roots, right?


Apparently yesterday's victim was also part of the Signal Chat.

https://truthsocial.com/@Qanon76/posts/115956903489553144


Now this might be interesting, hokie?
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.
he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.


Can't blame this guy for his decisions. Can't blame the woman (Goode) for her actions…I'm starting to see a pattern where we only blame the officers?

Who exactly would you like to see investigate this situation?

A unarmed man was shot 10 times.

Do you agree an investigation is warranted?

Given the feds' vocal presumption of guilt 5 seconds after the shooting occurred we all have serious doubts they could conduct any remotely thorough, impartial, and ultimately transparent investigation but they definitely need to attempt one, right?


Local authorities have been asked to assist ICE for more than a month. The guy out smarted by third world criminals to the tune of a billion dollars that you thought should be VP said no.

NOW you want the local government to get involved and do the investigation? In what world does this make sense?
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packgrad said:

Oldsouljer said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

What people are responding to isn't that they're all of a sudden huge 2A supporters.

It's that the Administration is yet again lying about the constitutional protections provided one of their ICE victims.

Is Kash not lying through his teeth here?




You can bring it but it my understanding (and I could be totally wrong) he did not have or at least show an ID that could verify he was legal to carry?


In N.C., you have to have your permit and ID. You also need to immediately disclose to law enforcement if you have a firearm. You also cannot obstruct law enforcement. You also cannot obstruct lat enforcement while armed. You also cannot resist arrest. You also cannot resist arrest while armed.

Life lessons here.

That's why I don't CC. If I'm in a traffic stop, and an officer asks me that question, I immediately assert the Fifth. And not because I have a weapon in the vehicle.


I'm the opposite. I've only been pulled over once since I got mine. I think it helped me get out of my ticket and just get a warning because I was so forthright with the officer.

I was actually riding in a car with someone that I worked with at the time coming back from lunch in downtown Wilmington 6-7 years ago, and there's a little really unnecessary speed drop on a 4 lane divided highway (MLK Boulevard) to 45 MPH, and it's tough to both remember exactly where it starts and to actually go that damn slow on a road like that... so he wasn't paying attention quick enough and we got stopped.

Nothing was said to me by the person I was riding with in advance, but when the officer asked for his license and registration, he presented his license and his concealed carry permit and at the same time verbally announced that he was permitted as such and that he had a weapon in the vehicle. The officer asked him where the weapon was and he indicated that it was locked in the glove compartment along with his registration. The officer asked him to unlock the glove compartment and retrieve his registration and then to please lock it again - which he did. I think the driver I was with actually asked me to put my hands on the dashboard maybe, as that short procedure happened and was completed.

The entire episode was calm and cool. I assume because, he actually followed the exact procedure that he is supposed to in that type situation.

He received a ticket for going 55 in a 45 (which was exactly what he was doing) and the entire traffic stop took less than 10 minutes and we were back on our way. Probably because we were white, I'm sure.

Not sure what any of this means in the big picture, but I just thought I'd share my only one personal experience.

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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

My whole question is if these guys are highly trained in de-escalation, why was none of that training applied here?


Because we only see and hear about the de-escalation gone wrong not the 1000's of encounters where they went right.

Again, I'm sorry anyone had to die. But maybe the local authorities could help act as a "buffer" between protesters and ICE?

Even better would be if the local authorities would hold any of the violent illegals in jail where ICE could arrest them away from protesters instead of releasing them on the street where ICE must search for them and provide security or backup at the same time.

exactly how would have local law enforcement helped in this situation? The aggressive behavior was done by the ice officers it appears on video. Maybe there's more context before folks started filming, and that's why it should be investigated.

But it seems to not concern you that what Noem said what happened and what is on the video are worlds apart. That concerns me.


I said above local and State authorities could act as a buffer between the protesters and ICE. Is that really so outside the realm of possibility?

He said, she said. What Noem says is no different than what Walz says. Why are you upset at one and not the other?

The Biden Administration did this. They opened the border for four years allowing MILLIONS of illegals in. Now someone must clean up their mess.

Ignoring for a second that there were 12 million illegals in this country before Biden set foot in office, how does anything Biden did or didn't do necessitate this manner of ICE enforcement?

You keep acting like this method of enforcement is the only way it has been done or could be done.

It's literally never been done this way, and this way is not resulting in increased deportations or at least not sufficiently increased deportations relative to past Administrations to warrant the massive loss of trust it's engendering.


The guy you voted for took a bad situation and made it 5-10 million times worse in just four years.

Now someone else must clean it up and you don't like it?

I'm tired of hearing it.

The illegal immigrant population was around 11 million during Trump's first term, and is now around 14 million. And fun fact, the number started spiking up during Trump's last year in office! The pandemic (which legally allowed closed borders) created a huge labor shortage, and outside of cracking down on employers it's unlikely anything could have prevented the illegal population spike to fill the demand.

So no, Biden didn't "fling the doors open". He did legally have to open the border once the emergency was lifted. Sure, he could have done some things sooner that might have helped a little. But mostly this is just a bunch of political bulls**t, since this is the issue that animates you guys the most.

Anyway, here's an idea! Since governors and even local police in blue states don't like what ICE is currently doing, how about Trump just do "normal" immigration enforcement in those places like has been effectively done for ages, and save the "roving bands of masked thugs" crap for red states who are excited about irradicating their immigrant populations?


Haha hahahaha hahaha


That dude takes every post as a challenge to show how deranged and brainwashed he is. Absolute lunacy.

This comment is about as stupid as I've seen recently. This isn't ignorance, this is simple stupidity!

"So no, Biden didn't "fling the doors open". He did legally have to open the border once the emergency was lifted."

Here, let me try to help. I'll type extra slowly.

During the pandemic we declared an emergency which made it legal to close the border to asylum seekers. So Trump did. After the pandemic YOU really wanted the pandemic emergency lifted. So Biden did. But that made it ILLEGAL to close the border to asylum seekers.

And guess what? Since our immigration laws haven't been fixed for decades it's very easy to abuse our asylum rules, which allows large floods of immigrants (which of course employers wanted after the pandemic, wink wink) that are hard to stop.

Get it?

That's not remotely the same as Biden saying "Hey everyone, we don't have a border any more! Come on in! YEEE HAAAAAW!", which is I'm sure what you guys believe. Because you're very deep thinkers.





https://www.themidwesterner.news/2023/11/video-border-patrol-lifts-wire-barrier-up-to-let-migrants-in/

This was also at a time where Democrats were calling for vaccine mandates for American citizens, and for people to lose their jobs if not vaccinated, not being allowed to travel, etc., but if you were an illegal flooding into the US, no requirement to get a vaccination while on the way in (which I'm sure could have been done), just a prepaid VISA card with $1,000.00 on it and a free prepaid cellphone...

Only 1 or 2 million came in during Biden's time in office... complete and total bull****, but somewhere Smarpty and Civ got the talking points so that is the lie they are going to tell from now on obviously.

Their **** is just so easily predictable at this point... plus what's his name as well (don't want to be accused of being mean again, god forbid). Each is as ridiculous as the other.
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/former-vikings-captain-says-minnesota-liberal-resist-ice-because-were-deporting-voters?dicbo=v2-h1xrj7Z

Another common sense observation by a random third party... but interesting to read nonetheless.
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mass-immigration-economic-warfare-few-americans-understand-why

This one is for the expert here on all matters economic related.
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With the new evidence about a coordinated effort with the insurgents, local officials, local law enforcement, and governor,I think it's time to send in the heavy hitters.

Civ and Dave are right. ICE is not properly trained for this. ICE is not trained to fight against the insurgents that they support.

Send in the military to quell the insurgency and arrest the seditious government and law enforcement leaders.
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packgrad said:

With the new evidence about a coordinated effort with the insurgents, local officials, local law enforcement, and governor,I think it's time to send in the heavy hitters.

Civ and Dave are right. ICE is not properly trained for this. ICE is not trained to fight against the insurgents that they support.

Send in the military to quell the insurgency and arrest the seditious government and law enforcement leaders.

Precisely. Interesting point vis-a-vis Walz. He draws military retired pay and could get the Mark Kelly treatment, or worse.
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Sounds like the officer was trained in the proper procedure to minimize any escalation. Kudos to him.
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.

he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.

Hokie, the very fact he was engaging with the women's issue is a problem. Also, how do you know he was already disarmed? Actually, I really don't care. The guy should not have gotten involved. There is a time and place for people to get involved. That was not one of them!

at some point, people need to let the damn law enforcement do their job! If they do their job wrong, then hopefully the system will fix things. You know, kind of like Civ says… let the courts do their thing, right?

all I'm saying is putting 100% of the blame on this guy is wrong. That's all

Actually… that's exactly what I'm doing. If he would follow common CC education, he would be alive today. He chose to do something different, and now we have a horrible situation.

Hokie, your starting premise is what I say is off. Nobody wants to see death, like this. Unfortunately, the way these people are acting is causing these extremely tense moments and leading to tragic results.
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Agreed. Killings recorded for TV aren't going to play well ....no matter the poor judgement of having a loaded weapon in the middle of and confronting law enforcement action.
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#DrainTheSwamp, remember that #MAGA term?
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Gulfstream4 said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, its grass roots, right?


Apparently yesterday's victim was also part of the Signal Chat.

https://truthsocial.com/@Qanon76/posts/115956903489553144


Now this might be interesting, hokie?
yeah that changes everything, he definitely deserved to die
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We're just going have to disagree Cary
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More information on the insurgency our board leftists support.

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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Oldsouljer said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, do you think its supernatural? Wonder what a #matrix is?


supernatural, no? Embarrassing? 8/10

You never cease to amaze me, LOL.

Do you still love your President?

I was referring to the lady in your post

Hokie, no offense… the rhetorical posts you've made on this ICE subject are disappointing.

  • What should be embarrassing to everyone here is the lack of respect of law enforcement executing their responsibility.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of agitators, on the street, sewing chaos.
  • What should be embarrassing is a concealed carry person not acting in accordance to their training.
  • What should be embarrassing are the number of people arguing the ignorance that they are espousing.
i don't know what to say about all this, other that the world is so screwed up, that it's sad. Now, I find a number of people posting here (you all know who I'm talking about) to be so ignorant! Folks, we have what we have! How far is this going to go?

we will rue the day that we pissed away the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments Cary, and the way we have treated Citizens and folks here who tried to go through the process legally and have been deported on technicalities

If that's ignorant in you're eyes, than I'm fine with that.

I can count on my hand the number of people who post here who have shown not to sacrifice their principles because Trump is in charge


"One day"…."you'll see"…"we will rue the day"….YOU WILL SEE…

Please, we haven't pissed away anything. We are cleaning up a giant mess created by Joe Biden and the people who voted him in office.

It's a messy process because of the sheer volume of ILLEGALS that must be accounted for, so yes some citizens are going to get caught up in the net. Just comply, show ID just like you do in many other situations in life and it will most likely work out? Man just think if local authorities in sanctuary cities would keep bad guys in jail how much easier this would be?

Besides, the marxists that are the former Democratic Party really don't care about preservation of the 1st, 2nd, or 4th Amendments


True. They have been trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment for decades and the only free speech they care for is speech they agree with.

….but they "care" now.

good news is now you're going to make it easier to do so in the future.


"One day"…"you'll see"….."it's going to be easier"….trust me bro….YOU WILL SEE ONE DAY!1


They're going to get rid of it because a liberal who followed none of the rules from his concealed carry class got killed. Solid logic. lol.

That's the point no one is talking about. You just don't do what he did as a concealed carrying person…. I damn sure know that!

what exactly did this guy not do? Tell the kind officers that he had a license and a concealed weapon while he was being tackled or being pepper sprayed? Or when 5 of them were on top of him? I don't think any mistakes this dude did warranted being killed. Maybe that's just me, but I didn't see an immediate threat from this guy in the video. I saw a whole lot of escalation from others in the video though.

I'm not going to sit here and say this guy was murdered, but there's a whole lot of investigation that should be done that won't be by this Administration and that's a shame.

Hokie, you obviously have never taken a concealed carrying person class, right? 1st, he should have never gone there with his gun. Once he did go with his gun, 2nd, he should have never gotten involved. When he got involved while trying to so-called protect the female, 3rd, he should have absolutely called out, I have concealed carry and I have a gun as he walked away, immediately!!

So, with your hyperbolic narrative, you forgot the key thing as a concealed carry person. Don't engage!! Only engage when another person engages you. Now, that doesn't mean law enforcement.

Before you post the ignorance that you just posted, please research things more vigorously.

he wasn't engaging though. It appears to me He was helping the woman who was pushed for no reason.

Beside the point, he was disarmed when he was shot 9 times.

This continued effort to blame this guy for everything that went down is laughable. That's why it should be investigated but it won't be.

Hokie, the very fact he was engaging with the women's issue is a problem. Also, how do you know he was already disarmed? Actually, I really don't care. The guy should not have gotten involved. There is a time and place for people to get involved. That was not one of them!

at some point, people need to let the damn law enforcement do their job! If they do their job wrong, then hopefully the system will fix things. You know, kind of like Civ says… let the courts do their thing, right?

all I'm saying is putting 100% of the blame on this guy is wrong. That's all

Actually… that's exactly what I'm doing. If he would follow common CC education, he would be alive today. He chose to do something different, and now we have a horrible situation.

Hokie, your starting premise is what I say is off. Nobody wants to see death, like this. Unfortunately, the way these people are acting is causing these extremely tense moments and leading to tragic results.


Common sense to people that don't support terrorists. 100% his fault because he inserted himself into the situation, which was his "duty" as a participant in the insurgency that he was clearly involved with.
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, its grass roots, right?


Apparently yesterday's victim was also part of the Signal Chat.

https://truthsocial.com/@Qanon76/posts/115956903489553144


Now this might be interesting, hokie?

yeah that changes everything, he definitely deserved to die

Deliberately interfering with armed personnel in the course of their duty while signaling that you're also capable of deadly force, does tend to cull the gene pool.
CALS grad

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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, its grass roots, right?


Apparently yesterday's victim was also part of the Signal Chat.

https://truthsocial.com/@Qanon76/posts/115956903489553144


Now this might be interesting, hokie?

yeah that changes everything, he definitely deserved to die

Deliberately interfering with armed personnel in the course of their duty while signaling that you're also capable of deadly force, does tend to cull the gene pool.
exactly. why even wait to see if they have a gun, just shoot the protesters on site. Let's "cull the herd".
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packgrad said:

With the new evidence about a coordinated effort with the insurgents, local officials, local law enforcement, and governor,I think it's time to send in the heavy hitters.

Civ and Dave are right. ICE is not properly trained for this. ICE is not trained to fight against the insurgents that they support.

Send in the military to quell the insurgency and arrest the seditious government and law enforcement leaders.

Great news! The well-trained cavalry has arrived and they're a helluva lot more adept at not killing Americans than the masked mall cops.

Can't believe they're unmasked and apparently not worried about getting doxxed but maybe that's because they're not acting like belligerent asshats enjoying finally having a gun and a little unearned authority a little too much.

Crazy what can happen when you take the masks off, stop inciting, and engage productively!

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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

With the new evidence about a coordinated effort with the insurgents, local officials, local law enforcement, and governor,I think it's time to send in the heavy hitters.

Civ and Dave are right. ICE is not properly trained for this. ICE is not trained to fight against the insurgents that they support.

Send in the military to quell the insurgency and arrest the seditious government and law enforcement leaders.

Great news! The well-trained cavalry has arrived and they're a helluva lot more adept at not killing Americans than the masked mall cops.

Can't believe they're unmasked and apparently not worried about getting doxxed but maybe that's because they're not acting like belligerent asshats enjoying finally having a gun and a little unearned authority a little too much.

Crazy what can happen when you take the masks off, stop inciting, and engage productively!




Oh you mean the National Guard that your daddy ordered to feed and give coffee to the terrorists that later attacked a hotel and federal officers?
Congratulations on digging in on your support of the insurgents, clown.

You're a belligerent asshat. You're a terrorist supporter. You're garbage.
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