TRUMP 2024

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SmaptyWolf said:

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TheStorm said:

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eljefe444 said:

Yea, Corruption being the number one issue for this election makes sense with the results



Corruption wasn't number one. The top two were the war and gas, which was believed to be the cause of high prices.

None of the rest of it had any appreciable impact whatsoever. I mean they can tell themselves that it did, but it was obviously the gas prices - which were the result of not committing to actually finishing the war, and led to high prices on basically everything else for consumers. There was time to fix it - and he didn't... and people got tired of it.

In the big picture, Dems said the right things to get elected this time - but, as soon as January comes around the "people that were actually running the country under the so-called Biden Presidency" are going to go right back to doing what they were doing that got Trump re-elected to begin with.

Sure. Keep up the otherworldly insider trading and corruption and see how that goes for you.



And definitely keep targeting all of the various groups that helped you (barely) win in 2024. Attacking civil rights in the South and terrorizing hispanic communities worked great!


The (selective) Republican leadership whiplash from lunacy back to some sanity after last Tuesday has been fascinating to see.
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hokiewolf said:

Sorry man, he should've done it right the first time for me to believe him. He lost that opportunity when he linked the attacker's actions to relatives killed in an Israeli airstrike.

Thats not launching into a discussion, that's blaming Israel for this man's action against Jews in the US. The apology after is not sincere.

I expect my government to represent all the people of the US, and excusing attacks on US soil specifically targeting Jews eliminates that person from me ever trusting what their motives are.


Abdul condemned the attack multiple times, explicitly. And then made a huge, admitted mistake by making that condemnation sound qualified. Which he quickly apologized multiple times for, in ways that seemed thoughtful.

The biggest contextual clue, to me, of his believability is that he did so in such a way that far more Jewish American Michiganders voted for him than for Rogers.

It was clear Trump had zero desire to 'represent all the people of the US' about five seconds into his first term in 2017. He's been a bad-faith actor from Jump Street in ways that were totally and completely obvious.

He doesn't represent handicapped people, or all women, especially those he personally mistreated, or the Americans whose constitutional rights he proudly violated, or so many other classes of Americans. And yet, you voted for him a second time anyway.

My point is that the differing curves some people choose to grade on is jarring and confusing, especially when they choose to grade on a steep curve for the most powerful office in our country but then extend no similar grace to lesser offices even or especially when those candidates are otherwise highly intelligent and thoughtful.

And if politicians are now truly one-mistake-and-they're-done, we're going to have a real hard time filling the halls of Congress.

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hokiewolf said:

Sorry man, he should've done it right the first time for me to believe him. He lost that opportunity when he linked the attacker's actions to relatives killed in an Israeli airstrike.

Thats not launching into a discussion, that's blaming Israel for this man's action against Jews in the US. The apology after is not sincere.

I expect my government to represent all the people of the US, and excusing attacks on US soil specifically targeting Jews eliminates that person from me ever trusting what their motives are.

No, I think you expect Democrats to represent all the people of the US when they're in power. Funny how that works. Has there been a Republican in the last decade who's even pretended to represent all the people of the US? You can watch Fox News for 15 seconds and answer that question easily. Yet somehow you've been happy to vote for them. Honestly, if it hadn't been for very specific economic choices I suspect you'd still be totally fine with MAGA.
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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry man, he should've done it right the first time for me to believe him. He lost that opportunity when he linked the attacker's actions to relatives killed in an Israeli airstrike.

Thats not launching into a discussion, that's blaming Israel for this man's action against Jews in the US. The apology after is not sincere.

I expect my government to represent all the people of the US, and excusing attacks on US soil specifically targeting Jews eliminates that person from me ever trusting what their motives are.

No, I think you expect Democrats to represent all the people of the US when they're in power. Funny how that works. Has there been a Republican in the last decade who's even pretended to represent all the people of the US? You can watch Fox News for 15 seconds and answer that question easily. Yet somehow you've been happy to vote for them. Honestly, if it hadn't been for very specific economic choices I suspect you'd still be totally fine with MAGA.
the current administration violated citizens 4th amendment rights. They too need to clean up their house.
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