TRUMP 2024

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Werewolf
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Having no visible inflation, this is the money that the middlemen and the foreign manufacturers were making; this is what the American sovereign citizens have been paying. This on top of incentives for returning manufacturing to our shores and protecting critical national security supply chains.

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In spite of the Central Banks' Federal Reserve and its puppet, Jerome Powell.
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Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans
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SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?
caryking
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!
hokiewolf
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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!
over promising and underperforming on an issue that was started by conspiracy theorists
hokiewolf
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Rough couple of days for the Ukraine haters.
Werewolf
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Trump moves on to the Federal Reaerve, the enemy embedded within.

https://rumble.com/v6w8nig-juan-o-savin-not-going-to-play-game-on-jmc-7-14-2025.html
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Werewolf said:

Trump moves on to the Federal Reaerve, the enemy embedded within.

https://rumble.com/v6w8nig-juan-o-savin-not-going-to-play-game-on-jmc-7-14-2025.html

Unless that means pushing Congress to repeal the 1913 FR Act, he isn't doing squat.
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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.
Civilized
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jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.
caryking
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Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.
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Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

Wait, a conspiracy theory that does not deliver? No way!
Civilized
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Cthepack said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

Wait, a conspiracy theory that does not deliver? No way!


SHOCKED, SHOCKED I SAY!!!1

Werewolf weeps.

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caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.
how about there just isn't any more information? Again, criminals usually don't make records of their criminal activities.

Also, do you guys ever think that Epstein just wanted to use these folks as cover, rather than everyone who is rich and everyone in government is a pedophile? What sounds most likely?

Same with Epstein being a Mossad agent. All Jews are Mossad agents! If you're going to have a honey pot sting, there are far easier ways to do such things than trying to lure really smart people into pedophilia.

Here's what I think, the two perpetrators of these horrific crimes were convicted and one is dead and one is in jail. Is there a possibility of someone else being involved? Maybe maybe not. But I find it hard to believe that all these people coming to his island and flying on his plane and Wu h pilots, stewardesses, caterers, housekeepers, gardeners, the pool guy, none of them have come forward with anyone doing something nefarious with Epstein.

Reality is you guys were snookers by grifters who live off your clicks to get wealthy and you have fallen for it over and over and over and over again.

Epstein and that lady are evil, they paid for their heinous acts. Trump is right this is all a big nothing.
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.


When one conspiracy theory doesn't pan out, just replace it with another, even more deep-state theory, and the band plays on...
caryking
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.

how about there just isn't any more information? Again, criminals usually don't make records of their criminal activities.

Also, do you guys ever think that Epstein just wanted to use these folks as cover, rather than everyone who is rich and everyone in government is a pedophile? What sounds most likely?

Same with Epstein being a Mossad agent. All Jews are Mossad agents! If you're going to have a honey pot sting, there are far easier ways to do such things than trying to lure really smart people into pedophilia.

Here's what I think, the two perpetrators of these horrific crimes were convicted and one is dead and one is in jail. Is there a possibility of someone else being involved? Maybe maybe not. But I find it hard to believe that all these people coming to his island and flying on his plane and Wu h pilots, stewardesses, caterers, housekeepers, gardeners, the pool guy, none of them have come forward with anyone doing something nefarious with Epstein.

Reality is you guys were snookers by grifters who live off your clicks to get wealthy and you have fallen for it over and over and over and over again.

Epstein and that lady are evil, they paid for their heinous acts. Trump is right this is all a big nothing.

You're lazy...
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.


When one conspiracy theory doesn't pan out, just replace it with another, even more deep-state theory, and the band plays on...

You're lazy also...
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I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please
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Sound plan

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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.

how about there just isn't any more information? Again, criminals usually don't make records of their criminal activities.

Also, do you guys ever think that Epstein just wanted to use these folks as cover, rather than everyone who is rich and everyone in government is a pedophile? What sounds most likely?

Same with Epstein being a Mossad agent. All Jews are Mossad agents! If you're going to have a honey pot sting, there are far easier ways to do such things than trying to lure really smart people into pedophilia.

Here's what I think, the two perpetrators of these horrific crimes were convicted and one is dead and one is in jail. Is there a possibility of someone else being involved? Maybe maybe not. But I find it hard to believe that all these people coming to his island and flying on his plane and Wu h pilots, stewardesses, caterers, housekeepers, gardeners, the pool guy, none of them have come forward with anyone doing something nefarious with Epstein.

Reality is you guys were snookers by grifters who live off your clicks to get wealthy and you have fallen for it over and over and over and over again.

Epstein and that lady are evil, they paid for their heinous acts. Trump is right this is all a big nothing.

You're lazy...

Trump told a reporter the other day:
Quote:

"I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody, it's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring, and I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going."

Sorry man... Trump just tossed you, Werewolf, and the rest of MAGA under the garbage truck!
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hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.
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hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please

It's funny though how you're acting like there's this huge gulf between Trump and the "conspiracy theorists". Trump literally only exists because of conspiracy theories. From Obama's birth certificate on, Trump and his followers have worked nonstop to weave all of these dark conspiracies that ONLY TRUMP can rescue us from.

And of course conspiracies have been the perfect antidote to any criming! Got caught with your hand in the cookie jar? The FBI is part of the Deep State. Have Russians popping out of every closet? OMG the CIA is part of the conspiracy! Lost an election? Conspiracy! Just always keep doubling down, conspiracies are cool like that!

And of course Trump took full advantage of the pedo conpiracies, too. Kash Patel and all of these guys literally made their careers by grifting the Epstein conspiracy on Fox News. And then Trump anointed them to lead the Justice Department!

So Trump spent his entire political career grooming his base to see everything as a conspiracy, and now on a dime you're acting like Trump is above all of this and the conspiracy theorist are a bunch of clowns?
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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.
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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.

Sorry, in my league they define pure waste like this:
Quote:

Pure waste, also known as non-value-added waste, represents activities within a process that do not contribute to the final product or service that the customer is willing to pay for.

You're right, "waste" sounds totally different. Maybe someday I'll learn how math works and then I can finally figure out all of your sorcery.

Anyway, sorry... I had said "lol, never mind", and here I am trolling you again.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.

Sorry, in my league they define pure waste like this:
Quote:

Pure waste, also known as non-value-added waste, represents activities within a process that do not contribute to the final product or service that the customer is willing to pay for.

You're right, "waste" sounds totally different. Maybe someday I'll learn how math works and then I can finally figure out all of your sorcery.

Anyway, sorry... I had said "lol, never mind", and here I am trolling you again.

You really do not know what you are talking about.

For information, around 50% of all activities are pure waste. And yes 90% of all activities are waste. Go figure.

Use those numbers to google a little more and you may find out what the other 40% is.


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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.

Sorry, in my league they define pure waste like this:
Quote:

Pure waste, also known as non-value-added waste, represents activities within a process that do not contribute to the final product or service that the customer is willing to pay for.

You're right, "waste" sounds totally different. Maybe someday I'll learn how math works and then I can finally figure out all of your sorcery.

Anyway, sorry... I had said "lol, never mind", and here I am trolling you again.

You really do not know what you are talking about.

For information, around 50% of all activities are pure waste. And yes 90% of all activities are waste. Go figure.

Use those numbers to google a little more and you may find out what the other 40% is.

Sigh... here's literally the first sentence of the Lean Six Sigma manual:
Quote:

In 2025, the brutal truth is that value still hides in the shadows: across industries, fewer than one in ten minutes of process-cycle time actually creates something a customer would pay forthe other 90 % is consumed by waiting, hand-offs, rework and other silent drains on profit. Even organisations already running Lean Six Sigma seldom push process-cycle efficiency beyond 15 %, which means at least 85 % of effort is still pure waste.

Lol, never mind.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.

Sorry, in my league they define pure waste like this:
Quote:

Pure waste, also known as non-value-added waste, represents activities within a process that do not contribute to the final product or service that the customer is willing to pay for.

You're right, "waste" sounds totally different. Maybe someday I'll learn how math works and then I can finally figure out all of your sorcery.

Anyway, sorry... I had said "lol, never mind", and here I am trolling you again.

You really do not know what you are talking about.

For information, around 50% of all activities are pure waste. And yes 90% of all activities are waste. Go figure.

Use those numbers to google a little more and you may find out what the other 40% is.

Sigh... here's literally the first sentence of the Lean Six Sigma manual:
Quote:

In 2025, the brutal truth is that value still hides in the shadows: across industries, fewer than one in ten minutes of process-cycle time actually creates something a customer would pay forthe other 90 % is consumed by waiting, hand-offs, rework and other silent drains on profit. Even organisations already running Lean Six Sigma seldom push process-cycle efficiency beyond 15 %, which means at least 85 % of effort is still pure waste.

Lol, never mind.

And it is wrong. Google non-value added but needed. And you may start to understand a bit more.
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For the record as someone who practices lean in construction, I agree with you.
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Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.

Sorry, in my league they define pure waste like this:
Quote:

Pure waste, also known as non-value-added waste, represents activities within a process that do not contribute to the final product or service that the customer is willing to pay for.

You're right, "waste" sounds totally different. Maybe someday I'll learn how math works and then I can finally figure out all of your sorcery.

Anyway, sorry... I had said "lol, never mind", and here I am trolling you again.

You really do not know what you are talking about.

For information, around 50% of all activities are pure waste. And yes 90% of all activities are waste. Go figure.

Use those numbers to google a little more and you may find out what the other 40% is.

Sigh... here's literally the first sentence of the Lean Six Sigma manual:
Quote:

In 2025, the brutal truth is that value still hides in the shadows: across industries, fewer than one in ten minutes of process-cycle time actually creates something a customer would pay forthe other 90 % is consumed by waiting, hand-offs, rework and other silent drains on profit. Even organisations already running Lean Six Sigma seldom push process-cycle efficiency beyond 15 %, which means at least 85 % of effort is still pure waste.

Lol, never mind.

And it is wrong. Google non-value added but needed. And you may start to understand a bit more.

Uh huh. As I said, you guys are so lost in semantic b.s. even your guides can't keep it straight.

Like I said at the outset, "Necessary NVA activities" are exactly the part of this system that make all of these percentages suspect. Considering a legally required safety inspection "waste" is a stupid waste of management's bandwidth, and has more to do with creating stressful "waste" numbers that keep consultants employed.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.

how about there just isn't any more information? Again, criminals usually don't make records of their criminal activities.

Also, do you guys ever think that Epstein just wanted to use these folks as cover, rather than everyone who is rich and everyone in government is a pedophile? What sounds most likely?

Same with Epstein being a Mossad agent. All Jews are Mossad agents! If you're going to have a honey pot sting, there are far easier ways to do such things than trying to lure really smart people into pedophilia.

Here's what I think, the two perpetrators of these horrific crimes were convicted and one is dead and one is in jail. Is there a possibility of someone else being involved? Maybe maybe not. But I find it hard to believe that all these people coming to his island and flying on his plane and Wu h pilots, stewardesses, caterers, housekeepers, gardeners, the pool guy, none of them have come forward with anyone doing something nefarious with Epstein.

Reality is you guys were snookers by grifters who live off your clicks to get wealthy and you have fallen for it over and over and over and over again.

Epstein and that lady are evil, they paid for their heinous acts. Trump is right this is all a big nothing.

You're lazy...

Trump told a reporter the other day:
Quote:

"I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody, it's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring, and I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going."

Sorry man... Trump just tossed you, Werewolf, and the rest of MAGA under the garbage truck!



There're lazy and you're just dumb as ****!!!

Trump didn't do anything but want to move the conversation somewhere else, which I get. I would too…

That said, and as I've said…. They fumbled this one big time. Now, whether there is more information or not, and none of you stupid asses know, including me, the admin handled this poorly!

That's all I said in my initial reply.

Unfortunately, for the world, in general, people like you have a tendency to **** up a good society. Go back to NYC with your ilk and potential new mayor. You belong with those people.
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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.

how about there just isn't any more information? Again, criminals usually don't make records of their criminal activities.

Also, do you guys ever think that Epstein just wanted to use these folks as cover, rather than everyone who is rich and everyone in government is a pedophile? What sounds most likely?

Same with Epstein being a Mossad agent. All Jews are Mossad agents! If you're going to have a honey pot sting, there are far easier ways to do such things than trying to lure really smart people into pedophilia.

Here's what I think, the two perpetrators of these horrific crimes were convicted and one is dead and one is in jail. Is there a possibility of someone else being involved? Maybe maybe not. But I find it hard to believe that all these people coming to his island and flying on his plane and Wu h pilots, stewardesses, caterers, housekeepers, gardeners, the pool guy, none of them have come forward with anyone doing something nefarious with Epstein.

Reality is you guys were snookers by grifters who live off your clicks to get wealthy and you have fallen for it over and over and over and over again.

Epstein and that lady are evil, they paid for their heinous acts. Trump is right this is all a big nothing.

You're lazy...

Trump told a reporter the other day:
Quote:

"I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody, it's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring, and I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going."

Sorry man... Trump just tossed you, Werewolf, and the rest of MAGA under the garbage truck!



There're lazy and you're just dumb as ****!!!

Trump didn't do anything but want to move the conversation somewhere else, which I get. I would too…

That said, and as I've said…. They fumbled this one big time. Now, whether there is more information or not, and none of you stupid asses know, including me, the admin handled this poorly!

That's all I said in my initial reply.

Unfortunately, for the world, in general, people like you have a tendency to **** up a good society. Go back to NYC with your ilk and potential new mayor. You belong with those people.

Apparently you didn't read today's Truth where Trump just disowned any MAGA people who think there is "more information" and called you weaklings.



caryking
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

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caryking said:

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caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

Well that's weird. House Dems just tried to add an amendment to a bill to force the full release of the Epstein files, and the House Republicans blocked it. Why would they do that?

Just kidding. Obviously it's a lose/lose for Trump. Either there's something in the files and he goes to jail for diddling a 15 year old, or there's nothing in the files and MAGA suddenly realizes that their entire world is a lie.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/trump-epstein-khanna-doj-democrats-republicans


Or maybe hold that card for when we might need it?

Lol, so that's the talking point they came up with? You really will gobble up anything they fling at the wall.

Even though Trump finally has a puppet running the Justice Department, now isn't a good time? Lol, when you "might need it"? What are you even talking about?

I'll give a take on this…

the Epstein issue could tank Trump, from getting more of his agenda done. I just listened to Mark Mitchell, from Rasmussen Polling. The cross-tabs on his polling is pounding Trumps approval rating. People from both parties are not buying that latest debacle the administration has done.

one of the key cross-tabs was about elites getting away with a perceived crime. Both parties are at about the same percentage with their frustration.

People don't like the way this has been handled. This has appeared to be handled like any other recent president, so, in general Trumps polling is plummeting.

Now, Smapty, please don't take your shots at me or Trump. I'm here saying that this has been an unforced error by the administration. So, what do they do about this?

Just this past week Dan Bongino has threatened to leave the administration, based on how this has been handled, it appears. It appears as if Bongino was trotted out to talk about this issue, only to come out, with Kash, and say…. There isn't anything there. Then, that memo was released, not signed by anyone (imagine that).

So, yes!!! This admin has fumbled this one big time, in my opinion!

IF there was any evidence that Trump had been on that island and was on the "list" (if there even is one) democrats would've used this years ago to prevent him from being president again. We're supposed to believe they would sit on something like this? Zero chance.

Unless prominent Democrat(s) are on it too.

Both Presidents/parties could be opting for something other than mutually assured destruction.

But yeah I agree the far more likely scenario is either there is no list or if there is one it's far less salacious than the conspiracy sharks have been hoping for.

I listened to a guy last night saying: the DOJ might not have much more information. He thinks, because of the supposed understanding, that Epstein was an asset for another country, the CIA will have all the information. Meaning Tulsi Gabbard has the real information that will tell us everything.

how about there just isn't any more information? Again, criminals usually don't make records of their criminal activities.

Also, do you guys ever think that Epstein just wanted to use these folks as cover, rather than everyone who is rich and everyone in government is a pedophile? What sounds most likely?

Same with Epstein being a Mossad agent. All Jews are Mossad agents! If you're going to have a honey pot sting, there are far easier ways to do such things than trying to lure really smart people into pedophilia.

Here's what I think, the two perpetrators of these horrific crimes were convicted and one is dead and one is in jail. Is there a possibility of someone else being involved? Maybe maybe not. But I find it hard to believe that all these people coming to his island and flying on his plane and Wu h pilots, stewardesses, caterers, housekeepers, gardeners, the pool guy, none of them have come forward with anyone doing something nefarious with Epstein.

Reality is you guys were snookers by grifters who live off your clicks to get wealthy and you have fallen for it over and over and over and over again.

Epstein and that lady are evil, they paid for their heinous acts. Trump is right this is all a big nothing.

You're lazy...

Trump told a reporter the other day:
Quote:

"I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody, it's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring, and I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going."

Sorry man... Trump just tossed you, Werewolf, and the rest of MAGA under the garbage truck!



There're lazy and you're just dumb as ****!!!

Trump didn't do anything but want to move the conversation somewhere else, which I get. I would too…

That said, and as I've said…. They fumbled this one big time. Now, whether there is more information or not, and none of you stupid asses know, including me, the admin handled this poorly!

That's all I said in my initial reply.

Unfortunately, for the world, in general, people like you have a tendency to **** up a good society. Go back to NYC with your ilk and potential new mayor. You belong with those people.

Apparently you didn't read today's Truth where Trump just disowned any MAGA people who think there is "more information" and called you weaklings.






Again, this shows how dumb as **** you are…

As I said above was, you and no one else knows what information the DOJ and/or the FBI has. All I said is that the Trump Admin fumbled the hell out of this. Nothing about what Trump tweeted/thruthed changes my opinion.

Now, is this going to be the first time "You" believe what Trump is saying?
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

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I'm a realist. And the most simple explanation is usually the most likely. Besides, the government can't run **** and you're telling me that they can control this massive scandal? Please.

Cthepack told me that 90% of most companies is pure waste. Sounds like the free market can't run **** either.

Not once did I say 90% of most companies (activities I assume you mean) is pure waste. 90% of most companies activities are waste.

There is a difference and honestly you are out of you league on this one.

I do work with governement contracts and the waste level is the same. The difference is that public companies can not go to the government and ask for more money when they need it. Lots of governement contracts have been structured this way so if they do not meet the plan they just go get more money from the tax payers.

Sorry, in my league they define pure waste like this:
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Pure waste, also known as non-value-added waste, represents activities within a process that do not contribute to the final product or service that the customer is willing to pay for.

You're right, "waste" sounds totally different. Maybe someday I'll learn how math works and then I can finally figure out all of your sorcery.

Anyway, sorry... I had said "lol, never mind", and here I am trolling you again.

You really do not know what you are talking about.

For information, around 50% of all activities are pure waste. And yes 90% of all activities are waste. Go figure.

Use those numbers to google a little more and you may find out what the other 40% is.

Sigh... here's literally the first sentence of the Lean Six Sigma manual:
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In 2025, the brutal truth is that value still hides in the shadows: across industries, fewer than one in ten minutes of process-cycle time actually creates something a customer would pay forthe other 90 % is consumed by waiting, hand-offs, rework and other silent drains on profit. Even organisations already running Lean Six Sigma seldom push process-cycle efficiency beyond 15 %, which means at least 85 % of effort is still pure waste.

Lol, never mind.

And it is wrong. Google non-value added but needed. And you may start to understand a bit more.

Uh huh. As I said, you guys are so lost in semantic b.s. even your guides can't keep it straight.

Like I said at the outset, "Necessary NVA activities" are exactly the part of this system that make all of these percentages suspect. Considering a legally required safety inspection "waste" is a stupid waste of management's bandwidth, and has more to do with creating stressful "waste" numbers that keep consultants employed.

Not at all lost on semantics and you continue to demonstrate you have no idea what you are talking about. The percentages are very valid. There is a clear definition of what non value added but needed versus pure waste.

You are really struggling to understand what you google because it is very clear you are getting all this information from searches. Keep digging! I like watching someone errogant taking a hit.
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