It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
It's pretty wild, isn't it?PackBacker07 said:It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
GoPack2008 said:It's pretty wild, isn't it?PackBacker07 said:It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
It really just takes a handful of posters to push things off the rails and into whacky conspiracy-land. And...it's a lot of the same folks from the BY, though on somewhat slightly better behavior.
Again, you call it "whacky" or "crazy"...but nothing could be further from the truth.GoPack2008 said:It's pretty wild, isn't it?PackBacker07 said:It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
It really just takes a handful of posters to push things off the rails and into whacky conspiracy-land. And...it's a lot of the same folks from the BY, though on somewhat slightly better behavior.
Oh, how tragic it is when something close to real freedom of speech is allowed, and people can freely express their opinions. What an abomination. What a crisis.PackBacker07 said:It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
Why are you trying to infringe upon our free speech to complain publicly about how weird this place can get?GuerrillaPack said:Oh, how tragic it is when something close to real freedom of speech is allowed, and people can freely express their opinions. What an abomination. What a crisis.PackBacker07 said:It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
What do you propose that must be done about this "problem"? Surely it means we need censorship, right? You need some moderators to come in who toe the Leftist/Establishment line, and start silencing those with the "wrong" opinions, so that only "politically correct" opinions can be expressed....right?
All I've done is disagree with you. How is that "infringing" on your free speech?GoPack2008 said:
Why are you trying to infringe upon our free speech to complain publicly about how weird this place can get?
"This is satanic. Sports Christmas has been turned into a satanic ritual focused on the tragic life-endings of a handful criminal suspects.DrummerboyWolf said:
Here is Jason Whitlock's column from yesterday before the game. It's about how the social justice movement is ruining "Sports Christmas." Another good read.
https://www.outkick.com/covid-19-and-blm-canceled-the-joy-of-patrick-mahomes-and-deshaun-watson/
Please quit trying to cancel him/her because you disagree with their POV. Cancel culture is getting out of hand and you're really at the center of it.GuerrillaPack said:All I've done is disagree with you. How is that "infringing" on your free speech?GoPack2008 said:
Why are you trying to infringe upon our free speech to complain publicly about how weird this place can get?
I've done no such thing. I've never argued that anyone here should be censored in any way. Not once. I actually believe in freedom of speech -- unlike many of my ideological opponents here who have on many occasions called for my threads/posts to be censored or locked.
I have nothing to fear from anyone saying whatever they want -- and most especially those on the far Left, who I encourage to speak their mind most of all. Because when they do, they primarily speak lies and evil that expose themselves for what they truly are.
Those who have the truth on their side have nothing to fear from a real debate and everyone having true freedom of speech. Only those who are supporting a false orthodoxy and false ideology fear people having true freedom of speech -- because once a true debate is allowed, then the truth can come out and expose their false ideology and worldview. This is why Leftists/Marxists are so obsessed with censorship, and silencing the right-wing.
Again, I'm doing no such thing. All I'm doing is disagreeing with their viewpoint. I'm not arguing that anyone should be banned, censored, or fired from their job. That's the modus operandi of the Marxist Left. The Marxist Left are the ones constantly whining to have people censored, banned, and fired from their jobs -- merely because they have right-wing views opposed to the far Left agenda.statefan91 said:Please quit trying to cancel him/her because you disagree with their POV. Cancel culture is getting out of hand and you're really at the center of it.GuerrillaPack said:All I've done is disagree with you. How is that "infringing" on your free speech?GoPack2008 said:
Why are you trying to infringe upon our free speech to complain publicly about how weird this place can get?
I've done no such thing. I've never argued that anyone here should be censored in any way. Not once. I actually believe in freedom of speech -- unlike many of my ideological opponents here who have on many occasions called for my threads/posts to be censored or locked.
I have nothing to fear from anyone saying whatever they want -- and most especially those on the far Left, who I encourage to speak their mind most of all. Because when they do, they primarily speak lies and evil that expose themselves for what they truly are.
Those who have the truth on their side have nothing to fear from a real debate and everyone having true freedom of speech. Only those who are supporting a false orthodoxy and false ideology fear people having true freedom of speech -- because once a true debate is allowed, then the truth can come out and expose their false ideology and worldview. This is why Leftists/Marxists are so obsessed with censorship, and silencing the right-wing.
statefan91 said:"This is satanic. Sports Christmas has been turned into a satanic ritual focused on the tragic life-endings of a handful criminal suspects.DrummerboyWolf said:
Here is Jason Whitlock's column from yesterday before the game. It's about how the social justice movement is ruining "Sports Christmas." Another good read.
https://www.outkick.com/covid-19-and-blm-canceled-the-joy-of-patrick-mahomes-and-deshaun-watson/
We've criminalized joy and celebration and glorified anger, misery and racial division."
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA holy **** that's really amazing.
How about we cancel Marxism.statefan91 said:
#cancelculture
GuerrillaPack said:Again, you call it "whacky" or "crazy"...but nothing could be further from the truth.GoPack2008 said:It's pretty wild, isn't it?PackBacker07 said:It's what this board has come to, really. Very close to the PP board, which should be an offshoot of 4chan.GoPack2008 said:
...so have fun with the Marxist leftist deep state circle jerk.
It really just takes a handful of posters to push things off the rails and into whacky conspiracy-land. And...it's a lot of the same folks from the BY, though on somewhat slightly better behavior.
When we say, for example, that BLM is a Marxist organization that's a FACT. 100% confirmed, and we documented it with evidence. And it's the same thing with other subjects that many people refuse to accept the truth on, and just dismiss as a so-called "conspiracy theory".
You can't just deny reality and the truth by slapping the label of "conspiracy theory" on something.
This is conspiracy FACT. Marxism is a REAL conspiracy. The agenda for globalism and the NWO is a REAL conspiracy. And on and on. Not "theory". Not "paranoid delusions". It's fact. It's reality. If you want to try to deny reality and refuse to accept the truth and live in fantasy land, then fine. But you can't say we are "crazy" because we know the truth and are choosing to live in reality.
Nothing I said in this thread that you alluded to was wrong. Show me how I'm "wrong". I'm not. Everything I've said in this thread was supported by evidence, logic, and facts. White people are the ones in this country facing organized, systemic, and institutionalized (by law) racism and discrimination -- in affirmative action, organized attack in academia ("white privilege" propaganda, etc). White people are not "oppressing" blacks, latinos, and asians in this country -- not in any organized and "systemic" way. There are no laws, official policies, or entire academic courses in place to discriminate against non-whites or attack and vilify them. But there ARE such laws/policies/courses in place to discriminate against and attack white/European people.MrStateFanGuy said:
In this thread, you've brought us such talking points as "White people experience the most racism" to "Latinos/Asians/Middle Easterners don't experience racism". At one point you started going hard on the Jews. Here you landed on the NWO. And you really like labeling anybody who disagrees with you as "Marxists".
All in one thread about a little sticker on Wake Forest's football helmets.
It's not difficult to see where some people think some of it is "whacky" and "crazy". You're over here talking about people who live in Fantasy Land, when you're running for Mayor of Cuckoo County.
Supported by evidence, eh? Please share your sources on how Latinos/Asians/Middle Easterners do not experience racism in the United States. Let's start there.GuerrillaPack said:Nothing I said that you cited was wrong. Show me how I'm "wrong". I'm not. Everything I said was supported by evidence, logic, and facts. White people are the ones in this country facing organized, systemic, and institutionalized (by law) racism and discrimination -- in affirmative action and organized attack in academic ("white privilege", etc).MrStateFanGuy said:
In this thread, you've brought us such talking points as "White people experience the most racism" to "Latinos/Asians/Middle Easterners don't experience racism". At one point you started going hard on the Jews. Here you landed on the NWO. And you really like labeling anybody who disagrees with you as "Marxists".
All in one thread about a little sticker on Wake Forest's football helmets.
It's not difficult to see where some people think some of it is "whacky" and "crazy". You're over here talking about people who live in Fantasy Land, when you're running for Mayor of Cuckoo County.
You and others here can call me "crazy" all you want. But they never actually provide any substantive argument to show that I'm wrong. They just call me names -- eg, "conspiracy theorist", as the Leftist Establishment media and power structure has trained them. But calling people names is not a valid argument. Real arguments are based on logic, facts, and reality --- which is on my side.
GuerrillaPack said:Nothing I said in this thread that you alluded to was wrong. Show me how I'm "wrong". I'm not. Everything I've said in this thread was supported by evidence, logic, and facts. White people are the ones in this country facing organized, systemic, and institutionalized (by law) racism and discrimination -- in affirmative action, organized attack in academia ("white privilege" propaganda, etc). White people are not "oppressing" blacks, latinos, and asians in this country -- not in any organized and "systemic" way. There are no laws, official policies, or entire academic courses in place to discriminate against non-whites or attack and vilify them. But there ARE such laws/policies/courses in place to discriminate against and attack white/European people.MrStateFanGuy said:
In this thread, you've brought us such talking points as "White people experience the most racism" to "Latinos/Asians/Middle Easterners don't experience racism". At one point you started going hard on the Jews. Here you landed on the NWO. And you really like labeling anybody who disagrees with you as "Marxists".
All in one thread about a little sticker on Wake Forest's football helmets.
It's not difficult to see where some people think some of it is "whacky" and "crazy". You're over here talking about people who live in Fantasy Land, when you're running for Mayor of Cuckoo County.
You and others here can call me "crazy" all you want. But they never actually provide any substantive argument to show that I'm wrong. They just call me names -- eg, "conspiracy theorist", as the Leftist Establishment media and power structure has trained them to blather like a parrot. But calling people names is not a valid argument. Real arguments are based on logic, facts, and reality --- which are on my side. The New World Order is a real agenda. Just as real as Marxism. In fact, they are actually one and the same agenda.
GoPack2008 said:I have the same understanding.dogplasma said:
I don't know much about BLM as an organization apart from what I've just now read on Wikipedia and the BLM website. It sounds like it's as much a social movement or concept as anything. Wikipedia says "As a movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership."
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
The point I made was that, in general, white people are not "oppressing" Latinos, Asians, and Middle Easterners...as one poster had insinuated. There is no organized or systemic racism being orchestrated by "white people" against those groups.MrStateFanGuy said:
Supported by evidence, eh? Please share your sources on how Latinos/Asians/Middle Easterners do not experience racism in the United States. Let's start there.
Show me your evidence, logic, and facts behind your egregious statement. Really interested to see your definitive proof that Middle Easterners do not experience racism in the United States on the anniversary of 9/11, especially when many folks from the Middle East have talked TODAY about their experiences dealing with racism and/or religious intolerance in the decades since that tragic event.
Define "cancel". I'm not arguing for any group of people to be fired from their job or have their freedom of speech taken away.GoPack2008 said:
Cancelling entire groups of people is one of the most Marxist things I've ever read.
LOL, relax dude. You don't need to be this angry about anything.griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:I have the same understanding.dogplasma said:
I don't know much about BLM as an organization apart from what I've just now read on Wikipedia and the BLM website. It sounds like it's as much a social movement or concept as anything. Wikipedia says "As a movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership."
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
You're joking, right? So not only do you not know how to use google.com, you also just skip over the post that directly linked to their site? Are you just trying to be dense here to troll or are you honestly willfully ignorant?
Seems to me that asking them to stop guilt-tripping you is trying to take away their freedom of speech. Why are you trying to #cancel BLM? So Marxist of you. Maybe even Leninist, too.GuerrillaPack said:Define "cancel". I'm not arguing for any group of people to be fired from their job or have their freedom of speech taken away.GoPack2008 said:
Cancelling entire groups of people is one of the most Marxist things I've ever read.
This is what far Left "woke progressive" socialists are obsessed with -- constantly getting their panties in a bunch when someone disagrees with them, and then whining to have those people banned, censored, or fired from their jobs.
Why would you assume I'm angry about anything you say? Just hilarious that we're like 6 pages deep and you're still on this thing that was literally pointed out 3 pages ago and you just skipped over it.GoPack2008 said:LOL, relax dude. You don't need to be this angry about anything.griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:I have the same understanding.dogplasma said:
I don't know much about BLM as an organization apart from what I've just now read on Wikipedia and the BLM website. It sounds like it's as much a social movement or concept as anything. Wikipedia says "As a movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership."
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
You're joking, right? So not only do you not know how to use google.com, you also just skip over the post that directly linked to their site? Are you just trying to be dense here to troll or are you honestly willfully ignorant?
Why would it be my responsibility to google evidence for a claim that somebody else made?
I've read their website. They're pretty clear that they're not some sort of centralized, monolithic organization. The idea that the cause is different from the organization doesn't have much evidence. That's all I'm saying.
Well said! Also my favorite GIF of all time. "You get nothing! Good Day Sir!griff17matt said:
griff17matt said:Why would you assume I'm angry about anything you say? Just hilarious that we're like 6 pages deep and you're still on this thing that was literally pointed out 3 pages ago and you just skipped over it.GoPack2008 said:LOL, relax dude. You don't need to be this angry about anything.griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:I have the same understanding.dogplasma said:
I don't know much about BLM as an organization apart from what I've just now read on Wikipedia and the BLM website. It sounds like it's as much a social movement or concept as anything. Wikipedia says "As a movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership."
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
You're joking, right? So not only do you not know how to use google.com, you also just skip over the post that directly linked to their site? Are you just trying to be dense here to troll or are you honestly willfully ignorant?
Why would it be my responsibility to google evidence for a claim that somebody else made?
I've read their website. They're pretty clear that they're not some sort of centralized, monolithic organization. The idea that the cause is different from the organization doesn't have much evidence. That's all I'm saying.
It is an organization, it is Marxist in rhetoric and purpose, and, while it shouldn't be, it is synonymous with the phrase. If black folks in particular don't want to associate with those ideals and focus on the EASILY relatable statement that all black lives matter then they should denounce any association with that organization that very clearly doesn't have the long-term benefit of the black community in their best interest.
Peaceful protest should be applauded and championed by anyone that believes in the first amendment. The fact that the phrase has been co-opted by Marxist propaganda which has cozied them up with Antifa and allowed rich, young, white kids with nothing better to do to steal agency from the black community and tied them inexorably from the violence that has accompanied many of these "peaceful" protests is both sad and easily divorced if done collectively by powerful black voices.
I don't doubt the black community feels picked on by the police. Perhaps they are in some way and perhaps it's a function of racial profiling based on probability. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I can certainly listen to well reasoned arguments that address issues faced by black folks in this country. I do know that the more they burn, loot, and kill in the name of black lives matter the more their cries will fall on deaf ears of those to whom they are trying to speak their plight.
It's tough to feel empathy when you just see them running around burning their own ****ing cities to the ground. Do they really think that's going to change anything? You can't talk about defunding the police while you literally burn down your own city. And the dudes they seemingly stick up for couldn't be worse for their cause. Celebrating a guy that was harassing the woman he raped, police tried to detain him, he resisted arrest and they shot him. THAT is the guy y'all really want to hang your hat on?
I don't feel anger towards any of you for whatever way you feel on this subject or really any subject for that matter. I don't know you and don't really care to so it's impossible for me to feel any sort of way about you as a handle on a sports website. However you decide to form your opinions is up to you. I just ask you to not be so obtuse about it, which is your MO on every thread you've ever commented on regardless of subject matter.
I'll hangup and listen. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.
He doesn't seem angry.GoPack2008 said:griff17matt said:Why would you assume I'm angry about anything you say? Just hilarious that we're like 6 pages deep and you're still on this thing that was literally pointed out 3 pages ago and you just skipped over it.GoPack2008 said:LOL, relax dude. You don't need to be this angry about anything.griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:I have the same understanding.dogplasma said:
I don't know much about BLM as an organization apart from what I've just now read on Wikipedia and the BLM website. It sounds like it's as much a social movement or concept as anything. Wikipedia says "As a movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership."
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
You're joking, right? So not only do you not know how to use google.com, you also just skip over the post that directly linked to their site? Are you just trying to be dense here to troll or are you honestly willfully ignorant?
Why would it be my responsibility to google evidence for a claim that somebody else made?
I've read their website. They're pretty clear that they're not some sort of centralized, monolithic organization. The idea that the cause is different from the organization doesn't have much evidence. That's all I'm saying.
It is an organization, it is Marxist in rhetoric and purpose, and, while it shouldn't be, it is synonymous with the phrase. If black folks in particular don't want to associate with those ideals and focus on the EASILY relatable statement that all black lives matter then they should denounce any association with that organization that very clearly doesn't have the long-term benefit of the black community in their best interest.
Peaceful protest should be applauded and championed by anyone that believes in the first amendment. The fact that the phrase has been co-opted by Marxist propaganda which has cozied them up with Antifa and allowed rich, young, white kids with nothing better to do to steal agency from the black community and tied them inexorably from the violence that has accompanied many of these "peaceful" protests is both sad and easily divorced if done collectively by powerful black voices.
I don't doubt the black community feels picked on by the police. Perhaps they are in some way and perhaps it's a function of racial profiling based on probability. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I can certainly listen to well reasoned arguments that address issues faced by black folks in this country. I do know that the more they burn, loot, and kill in the name of black lives matter the more their cries will fall on deaf ears of those to whom they are trying to speak their plight.
It's tough to feel empathy when you just see them running around burning their own ****ing cities to the ground. Do they really think that's going to change anything? You can't talk about defunding the police while you literally burn down your own city. And the dudes they seemingly stick up for couldn't be worse for their cause. Celebrating a guy that was harassing the woman he raped, police tried to detain him, he resisted arrest and they shot him. THAT is the guy y'all really want to hang your hat on?
I don't feel anger towards any of you for whatever way you feel on this subject or really any subject for that matter. I don't know you and don't really care to so it's impossible for me to feel any sort of way about you as a handle on a sports website. However you decide to form your opinions is up to you. I just ask you to not be so obtuse about it, which is your MO on every thread you've ever commented on regardless of subject matter.
I'll hangup and listen. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Your general tone and the effort you put into that reply strike me as angry. Also that bit about me being obtuse and my MO; it tells me that I get under your skin and, well, make you angry.
I don't know why you keep talking about them being Marxist to me. You're tilting at windmills; I never said they weren't Marxist. I said I don't care if they are Marxist, and I said I don't understand this distinction people are making where they say they support the cause but not the organization. It's nonsensical to me.
Find me one single quote of me saying they aren't Marxist and I'll give you $50.
And yes, I don't think anyone, regardless of skin color, with a criminal record should be murdered for resisting arrest. This isn't complicated.
Ripper said:He doesn't seem angry.GoPack2008 said:griff17matt said:Why would you assume I'm angry about anything you say? Just hilarious that we're like 6 pages deep and you're still on this thing that was literally pointed out 3 pages ago and you just skipped over it.GoPack2008 said:LOL, relax dude. You don't need to be this angry about anything.griff17matt said:GoPack2008 said:I have the same understanding.dogplasma said:
I don't know much about BLM as an organization apart from what I've just now read on Wikipedia and the BLM website. It sounds like it's as much a social movement or concept as anything. Wikipedia says "As a movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership."
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
You're joking, right? So not only do you not know how to use google.com, you also just skip over the post that directly linked to their site? Are you just trying to be dense here to troll or are you honestly willfully ignorant?
Why would it be my responsibility to google evidence for a claim that somebody else made?
I've read their website. They're pretty clear that they're not some sort of centralized, monolithic organization. The idea that the cause is different from the organization doesn't have much evidence. That's all I'm saying.
It is an organization, it is Marxist in rhetoric and purpose, and, while it shouldn't be, it is synonymous with the phrase. If black folks in particular don't want to associate with those ideals and focus on the EASILY relatable statement that all black lives matter then they should denounce any association with that organization that very clearly doesn't have the long-term benefit of the black community in their best interest.
Peaceful protest should be applauded and championed by anyone that believes in the first amendment. The fact that the phrase has been co-opted by Marxist propaganda which has cozied them up with Antifa and allowed rich, young, white kids with nothing better to do to steal agency from the black community and tied them inexorably from the violence that has accompanied many of these "peaceful" protests is both sad and easily divorced if done collectively by powerful black voices.
I don't doubt the black community feels picked on by the police. Perhaps they are in some way and perhaps it's a function of racial profiling based on probability. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I can certainly listen to well reasoned arguments that address issues faced by black folks in this country. I do know that the more they burn, loot, and kill in the name of black lives matter the more their cries will fall on deaf ears of those to whom they are trying to speak their plight.
It's tough to feel empathy when you just see them running around burning their own ****ing cities to the ground. Do they really think that's going to change anything? You can't talk about defunding the police while you literally burn down your own city. And the dudes they seemingly stick up for couldn't be worse for their cause. Celebrating a guy that was harassing the woman he raped, police tried to detain him, he resisted arrest and they shot him. THAT is the guy y'all really want to hang your hat on?
I don't feel anger towards any of you for whatever way you feel on this subject or really any subject for that matter. I don't know you and don't really care to so it's impossible for me to feel any sort of way about you as a handle on a sports website. However you decide to form your opinions is up to you. I just ask you to not be so obtuse about it, which is your MO on every thread you've ever commented on regardless of subject matter.
I'll hangup and listen. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Your general tone and the effort you put into that reply strike me as angry. Also that bit about me being obtuse and my MO; it tells me that I get under your skin and, well, make you angry.
I don't know why you keep talking about them being Marxist to me. You're tilting at windmills; I never said they weren't Marxist. I said I don't care if they are Marxist, and I said I don't understand this distinction people are making where they say they support the cause but not the organization. It's nonsensical to me.
Find me one single quote of me saying they aren't Marxist and I'll give you $50.
And yes, I don't think anyone, regardless of skin color, with a criminal record should be murdered for resisting arrest. This isn't complicated.
Not trying to get into a deep BLM debate, but setting the "trained Marxist" remark aside (whatever that actually means), what parts of the BLM message and stated goals do you disagree with? Just curious because, aside from "common sense gun control" which I imagine you'd take issue with, I really am curious what specific aspects of it as a movement you oppose?GuerrillaPack said:RrrriiiightGoPack2008 said:
I have the same understanding.
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
I only provided you with a link to one of the co-founders of BLM admitting that their organization is ideologically rooted in Marxism, with her explicitly stating "we are trained Marxists".
Not directed at me, but BLM wants to end the nuclear family, overthrow the Constitution of the United States, reparations, capitalism, have the "State" take care of your children, revolution, end all patriarchy and on and on. They have trained on the theories of Marxism and Maoism. Tear down society and history so they can rebuild it in their image. It never ends well and lots of people die. It all leads to socialism and communism.dogplasma said:Not trying to get into a deep BLM debate, but setting the "trained Marxist" remark aside (whatever that actually means), what parts of the BLM message and stated goals do you disagree with? Just curious because, aside from "common sense gun control" which I imagine you'd take issue with, I really am curious what specific aspects of it as a movement you oppose?GuerrillaPack said:RrrriiiightGoPack2008 said:
I have the same understanding.
Apparently we are both totally wrong and misinformed but nobody will provide a source that can enlighten our ignorance.
I only provided you with a link to one of the co-founders of BLM admitting that their organization is ideologically rooted in Marxism, with her explicitly stating "we are trained Marxists".
