Dang - I thought it said Vax the B**ch!!!!!!!!!!BBW12OG said:Yes... by all means... REMEMBER...."let's keep politics out of this..." LMAO... at least we know where this all started right?packgrad said:
It stops when the frauds that have signs in their yards about science and tell "dissenters" to stop politicizing the virus start following science and stop politicizing the virus.
You don't have to wear masks if you are at a BLM riot, a lefty event, a "high end fancy restaurant, a lefty politician or someone who supports lefty causes.
You must wear a mask if you don't agree with anything the left supports and you are "anti-science."The Masking of the Servant Class: Ugly COVID Images From the Met Gala Are Now Commonplacehttps://t.co/3cyANKaU8D
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) September 14, 2021
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I'm not sure how in any sane world, justifying 17 days out of school is a reasonable solution for a relative being tested positive, but the kid not?Wayland said:PackFansXL said:
I hope it helps. Good luck!
School is claiming it doesnt matter and the 10 extra days is baked in regardless if he is living elsewhere for now. Looks like I need to find a number for Wake County Health or DHHS and straighten these people out.
Guarantee you she'd disappoint... you can't be that stupid and be good at... well... anything.82TxPackFan said:Dang - I thought it said Vax the B**ch!!!!!!!!!!BBW12OG said:Yes... by all means... REMEMBER...."let's keep politics out of this..." LMAO... at least we know where this all started right?packgrad said:
It stops when the frauds that have signs in their yards about science and tell "dissenters" to stop politicizing the virus start following science and stop politicizing the virus.
You don't have to wear masks if you are at a BLM riot, a lefty event, a "high end fancy restaurant, a lefty politician or someone who supports lefty causes.
You must wear a mask if you don't agree with anything the left supports and you are "anti-science."The Masking of the Servant Class: Ugly COVID Images From the Met Gala Are Now Commonplacehttps://t.co/3cyANKaU8D
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) September 14, 2021
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"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
Seems like this is going to become more widespread, with the new federal government over-reach on this.mdreid said:
https://www.wraltechwire.com/2021/09/15/sas-to-workers-get-vaccinated-or-you-could-be-fired/?fbclid=IwAR29c9tImay6aqRsG1udcPa-fXLexicITcqRuBNqiDk9Ilu0RH4oactDBKg
My company, in its return to office plans, is so far just requiring masks to be worn all day, but is still mulling over the new edict. I could see it being used as an easy way to reduce headcount as desired though at some point....
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.
Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Trust me. I know.
Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
Yeah, quarantining for 14 days is too much absolutely....the two parties could have been actual adults and reached a compromise -- if someone was insistent not to wear a mask, make them take a test. Really pretty simple. Testing those exposed would be much more scientific. And likely convenient.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
But it plays really really well to appeal to peoples "rights".
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I have been a remote worker since March 2020. We got an email two days ago that said they will likely require all employees, to be vaccinated, even if we are a remote worker. Of course, this does not affect me, since I have bene fully vaccinated for months, but I am sure there are employees it does affect. I do not know what ramifications there will be if people chose not to get vaccinated, but I assume termination could be an option or they just might require weekly testing. They are supposed to provide better guidance in another week.Packchem91 said:Seems like this is going to become more widespread, with the new federal government over-reach on this.mdreid said:
https://www.wraltechwire.com/2021/09/15/sas-to-workers-get-vaccinated-or-you-could-be-fired/?fbclid=IwAR29c9tImay6aqRsG1udcPa-fXLexicITcqRuBNqiDk9Ilu0RH4oactDBKg
My company, in its return to office plans, is so far just requiring masks to be worn all day, but is still mulling over the new edict. I could see it being used as an easy way to reduce headcount as desired though at some point....
Weekly testing for a remote worker? What is that other than just pure stupidity?Daviewolf83 said:I have been a remote worker since March 2020. We got an email two days ago that said they will likely require all employees, to be vaccinated, even if we are a remote worker. Of course, this does not affect me, since I have bene fully vaccinated for months, but I am sure there are employees it does affect. I do not know what ramifications there will be if people chose not to get vaccinated, but I assume termination could be an option or they just might require weekly testing. They are supposed to provide better guidance in another week.Packchem91 said:Seems like this is going to become more widespread, with the new federal government over-reach on this.mdreid said:
https://www.wraltechwire.com/2021/09/15/sas-to-workers-get-vaccinated-or-you-could-be-fired/?fbclid=IwAR29c9tImay6aqRsG1udcPa-fXLexicITcqRuBNqiDk9Ilu0RH4oactDBKg
My company, in its return to office plans, is so far just requiring masks to be worn all day, but is still mulling over the new edict. I could see it being used as an easy way to reduce headcount as desired though at some point....
LOL. He sure was... now he's flipped to the other side of that argument... just as long as he can argue about something though!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
What was the Biden administration's stance in Florida again? Oh, yeah... that's right. That the school boards should get to decide. What's Cooper's stance re: Union County?
But of course, none of this is politics... just SCIENCE!
Perhaps that would be because the real estate developer believes that nothing, even a pandemic of a bug that has a maybe 1% mortality rate, is above people's constitutional rights, while a healthcare worker thinks only of the immediate task before them and how to accomplish that task even if it requires embracing fascist measures.
Packchem91 said:Yeah, quarantining for 14 days is too much absolutely....the two parties could have been actual adults and reached a compromise -- if someone was insistent not to wear a mask, make them take a test. Really pretty simple. Testing those exposed would be much more scientific. And likely convenient.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
But it plays really really well to appeal to peoples "rights".
So, test all children that are insistent not to wear a mask? Do you even comprehend how much you flip flop on issues just trying to argue? "Rights". Lol. Putting rights in quotation marks appeals really really well to "message board guys".
Right, because being out 7 days and getting tested to come back (As the doctor's tweets on the previous page suggested) is teh same as sitting out 14, or 17, or whatever # of days.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Yeah, quarantining for 14 days is too much absolutely....the two parties could have been actual adults and reached a compromise -- if someone was insistent not to wear a mask, make them take a test. Really pretty simple. Testing those exposed would be much more scientific. And likely convenient.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
But it plays really really well to appeal to peoples "rights".
So, test all children that are insistent not to wear a mask? Do you even comprehend how much you flip flop on issues just trying to argue? "Rights". Lol. Putting rights in quotation marks appeals really really well to "message board guys".
No matter how much you want to not believe it -- politics on both sides - have a play in this. This is not just a one-sided affair.
ETA: And the quotes are because the moronic leader of the UC School board actually used that term last week before the board made a decision, when she said she was continually hearing from teachers, parents and kids that they didn't want their "rights" to live life as they see fit be infringed upon. LOL.
Mehhhh....I said from the beginning, UC should have found a way to compromise between the school board and the health director (both county and state). Again, things don't have to be black and white....both "sides" can be dumb, especially if they can't come to a middle ground on this.TheStorm said:LOL. He sure was... now he's flipped to the other side of that argument... just as long as he can argue about something though!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
What was the Biden administration's stance in Florida again? Oh, yeah... that's right. That the school board's should get to decide. What's Cooper's stance re: Union County?
But of course, none of this is politics... just SCIENCE!
If you're insistent on no masks like the UC board clearly was, then implement some sort of test policy to allow exposed kids to come back sooner. The health director's policy of 14 days was dumb. Wake's policy of 17 days or whatever Wayland is having to encounter is even dumber. But so is saying "no masks, no testing, no absences".
You say "science"....how many doctors are signing up for the above policy?
The only ones I've seen weigh in think its dumb.
Packchem91 said:Mehhhh....I said from the beginning, UC should have found a way to compromise between the school board and the health director (both county and state). Again, things don't have to be black and white....both "sides" can be dumb, especially if they can't come to a middle ground on this.TheStorm said:LOL. He sure was... now he's flipped to the other side of that argument... just as long as he can argue about something though!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
What was the Biden administration's stance in Florida again? Oh, yeah... that's right. That the school board's should get to decide. What's Cooper's stance re: Union County?
But of course, none of this is politics... just SCIENCE!
If you're insistent on no masks like the UC board clearly was, then implement some sort of test policy to allow exposed kids to come back sooner. The health director's policy of 14 days was dumb. Wake's policy of 17 days or whatever Wayland is having to encounter is even dumber. But so is saying "no masks, no testing, no absences".
You say "science"....how many doctors are signing up for the above policy?
The only ones I've seen weigh in think its dumb.
Wake's policy is that if the contact is with a household member then the student can't even begin their quarantine until AFTER the isolation period for that household member EVEN IF the student and household member are not living in the same house during the isolation period.
Which means, a healthy student is out of school for 17-24 days for a contact.
I still think it is a semantics issue. And the tier 1 Wake Public Health individual communicating policy to the school is an absolute ****ING moron and doesn't understand the rule.
Packchem91 said:Mehhhh....I said from the beginning, UC should have found a way to compromise between the school board and the health director (both county and state). Again, things don't have to be black and white....both "sides" can be dumb, especially if they can't come to a middle ground on this.TheStorm said:LOL. He sure was... now he's flipped to the other side of that argument... just as long as he can argue about something though!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:As much as healthcare providers making recommendations is, i guess.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:You had to expect this. The move by UC board is politically motivated (I'd bet a beer that one of the leaders of that board will be putting their "if you're afraid of dying, you aren't living" lines on an election ad poster for a bigger office soon). And Mandy and Cooper have a certain bit of face to save with the Toolkit thing.packgrad said:
Cooper doesn't want your kids going to school.Breaking via @elsawsoc9: State health leaders ask Union County’s school board to rescind quarantine vote or face legal action
— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) September 16, 2021
https://t.co/G2b0jQmCKb
Lets hope the numbers decrease soon overall, and the state can't just say "your + cases are higher than your like-sized counties"
ETA: That woman has some crazy eyes.
Following the science is now politically motivated.
Its funny, a paid healthcare person says "wear a mask or be quarantined" and thats political hackery, but a real estate developer says, despite what the healthcare person says, we think not only do you not have to wear masks, but no quarantining at all, and thats "following the science".
Unless symptoms of course....which was then one of the major points used by the infectious disease doctor that was much celebrated on here earlier to day for her impassioned plea to NOT use quarantining on symptoms.
But yeah, science and all.
Healthcare providers made their own beds. Lying political hacks all over social media and the news. You could look at the data or you could just be the guy that complains no matter what is done. Weren't you whining about UC quarantining students before and now it's political that they're not? Lol. Yeah. Science.
What was the Biden administration's stance in Florida again? Oh, yeah... that's right. That the school board's should get to decide. What's Cooper's stance re: Union County?
But of course, none of this is politics... just SCIENCE!
If you're insistent on no masks like the UC board clearly was, then implement some sort of test policy to allow exposed kids to come back sooner. The health director's policy of 14 days was dumb. Wake's policy of 17 days or whatever Wayland is having to encounter is even dumber. But so is saying "no masks, no testing, no absences".
You say "science"....how many doctors are signing up for the above policy?
The only ones I've seen weigh in think its dumb.
UC does have a policy for exposed kids to come back sooner. If they are asymptomatic they come back.
It's all part of the "end game." As long as the lefties are in power the elections are going to "require" the safest of measures. Mail-in voting. Ballot harvesting.
Got to keep the sheep in the herd.
Got to keep the sheep in the herd.
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
This is where high vaccination rates can get you. Booster decisions are not being made on immunology per se but on high circulating rates of virus in some countries; EU (400 million people) not doing boosters but US/Israel higher cases with delta due to lower vax rates
— Monica Gandhi MD, MPH (@MonicaGandhi9) September 16, 2021
Daughter and soon to be son in law have fully recovered. Still some minor side affects but that you Lord for answered prayers
Good news, Glass! Nothing the Lord can't help with..Glasswolf said:
Daughter and soon to be son in law have fully recovered. Still some minor side affects but that you Lord for answered prayers
Where can I find accurate (well, accurate as they can be) death totals as well as serious side-effects, by vaccine?
Beijing Joe's vaxx mandate is obviously illegal, unconstitutional, and tyrannical.
But the Supreme Court has demonstrated that it is completely corrupt and unwilling to uphold the Constitution.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-wildly-unconstitutional-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAOrv1y
But the Supreme Court has demonstrated that it is completely corrupt and unwilling to uphold the Constitution.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-wildly-unconstitutional-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAOrv1y
Quote:
Biden's wildly unconstitutional vaccine mandate
Justin Haskins
The Hill
9/15/2021
In what may go down as one of the most significant attempts to expand the power of the presidency in modern history, President Biden announced on Sept. 9 a series of sweeping new vaccine mandates, which, together, could affect as many 100 million people.
[...]
The decision to impose vaccines nationwide is one of the most stunning moves made by any president, a view bolstered by Biden's speech announcing the plan, which included several explicit or implicit threats and warnings.
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When confronted with questions about the constitutionality of the mandate, defenders of the president have insisted Biden has the authority to issue a national vaccine mandate under the vaguely written Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, which was created to improve safety conditions in the workplace.
But a federal statute cannot be interpreted to warrant an unconstitutional law, since the Constitution is the supreme law of the federal government. So, unless a legal scholar can cite a provision in the Constitution that gives the president the authority to mandate vaccines or even to simply regulate public health generally, the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 cannot be used to justify the mandate. And no such constitutional provision exists.
Others have pointed to a Supreme Court case from 1905, Jacobson v. Massachusetts, as proof that the president has the authority to issue a vaccine requirement.
It is true that the Supreme Court in Jacobson ruled that vaccine mandates can be imposed by a local government, so long as that government is not acting in violation of state law. And it's also true the Massachusetts law cited in the case was even more intrusive than the policies now being pushed by the Biden administration. But this argument also fails spectacularly for one very important reason.
In Jacobson, the Supreme Court determined that a local vaccine mandate is permissible under the Constitution because states have maintained their police powers and authority to regulate public health under the 10th Amendment, which guarantees, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
But the decision in Jacobson does not include language indicating that the national government has the same authority. The case has nothing to do with federal vaccine mandates like the one imposed by Biden.
Nothing in the Constitution suggest that the executive branch can impose blanket vaccine regulations on private businesses or their employees.
The only question that remains is whether the Supreme Court will strike down Biden's mandate. If the court refuses to get involved, the public will suffer for generations, as one presidential administration after another erodes its hard-won liberties.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
NC CLI Surveillance comes out today. Looks like the CLI% is the lowest it has been in almost a month (since pre-peak)
(it is still at a peak in the Wayland household)
(it is still at a peak in the Wayland household)
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Yes and SAS is going to fire remote workers who are unvaccinated. Vaccination has become a condition of employment for many companies.TheStorm said:Weekly testing for a remote worker? What is that other than just pure stupidity?Daviewolf83 said:I have been a remote worker since March 2020. We got an email two days ago that said they will likely require all employees, to be vaccinated, even if we are a remote worker. Of course, this does not affect me, since I have bene fully vaccinated for months, but I am sure there are employees it does affect. I do not know what ramifications there will be if people chose not to get vaccinated, but I assume termination could be an option or they just might require weekly testing. They are supposed to provide better guidance in another week.Packchem91 said:Seems like this is going to become more widespread, with the new federal government over-reach on this.mdreid said:
https://www.wraltechwire.com/2021/09/15/sas-to-workers-get-vaccinated-or-you-could-be-fired/?fbclid=IwAR29c9tImay6aqRsG1udcPa-fXLexicITcqRuBNqiDk9Ilu0RH4oactDBKg
My company, in its return to office plans, is so far just requiring masks to be worn all day, but is still mulling over the new edict. I could see it being used as an easy way to reduce headcount as desired though at some point....
Daviewolf83 said:Yes and SAS is going to fire remote workers who are unvaccinated. Vaccination has become a condition of employment for many companies.TheStorm said:Weekly testing for a remote worker? What is that other than just pure stupidity?Daviewolf83 said:I have been a remote worker since March 2020. We got an email two days ago that said they will likely require all employees, to be vaccinated, even if we are a remote worker. Of course, this does not affect me, since I have bene fully vaccinated for months, but I am sure there are employees it does affect. I do not know what ramifications there will be if people chose not to get vaccinated, but I assume termination could be an option or they just might require weekly testing. They are supposed to provide better guidance in another week.Packchem91 said:Seems like this is going to become more widespread, with the new federal government over-reach on this.mdreid said:
https://www.wraltechwire.com/2021/09/15/sas-to-workers-get-vaccinated-or-you-could-be-fired/?fbclid=IwAR29c9tImay6aqRsG1udcPa-fXLexicITcqRuBNqiDk9Ilu0RH4oactDBKg
My company, in its return to office plans, is so far just requiring masks to be worn all day, but is still mulling over the new edict. I could see it being used as an easy way to reduce headcount as desired though at some point....
Wait until they start requiring all people in the household to be vaccinated to maintain employment…. Including kids as young as 1 day old.
Thank you Cary. He's still the best Physician evercaryking said:Good news, Glass! Nothing the Lord can't help with..Glasswolf said:
Daughter and soon to be son in law have fully recovered. Still some minor side affects but that you Lord for answered prayers
Yes he is!!Glasswolf said:Thank you Cary. He's still the best Physician evercaryking said:Good news, Glass! Nothing the Lord can't help with..Glasswolf said:
Daughter and soon to be son in law have fully recovered. Still some minor side affects but that you Lord for answered prayers
My company recently issued a voluntary survey of employee vaccine status. No one is going to be let go for being unvaxxed or not responding, but the results, it's said, may be used to decide how to conduct onsite business. I'm not opposed but it seems a little late in the game for this, frankly. I guess the timing of this response was limited by FDA approval.
There are multiple groups of highly trained employees where I work who have to work onsite - no option. If they were to have a Covid outbreak in those groups, it could be costly for the company and potentially also have other effects. These groups have not been required to get vaccines, which is somewhat surprising to me. (I'm not in those groups - I have the option to work remote, although I choose not to.)
There are multiple groups of highly trained employees where I work who have to work onsite - no option. If they were to have a Covid outbreak in those groups, it could be costly for the company and potentially also have other effects. These groups have not been required to get vaccines, which is somewhat surprising to me. (I'm not in those groups - I have the option to work remote, although I choose not to.)
The end game is 100% about Mail-in voting and Ballot harvesting... in fact, Fauci's Wuhan lab is probably toiling away working on that next variant. None of this is by accident either.BBW12OG said:
It's all part of the "end game." As long as the lefties are in power the elections are going to "require" the safest of measures. Mail-in voting. Ballot harvesting.
Got to keep the sheep in the herd.
I don't think your company is late, I work for a Fortune 100 company and they always had targeted after Labor Day for return to work / travel, however that's been pushed back and they're taking a "hybrid" approach and letting each business decide internally while working with their clients.dogplasma said:
My company recently issued a voluntary survey of employee vaccine status. No one is going to be let go for being unvaxxed or not responding, but the results, it's said, may be used to decide how to conduct onsite business. I'm not opposed but it seems a little late in the game for this, frankly. I guess the timing of this response was limited by FDA approval.
There are multiple groups of highly trained employees where I work who have to work onsite - no option. If they were to have a Covid outbreak in those groups, it could be costly for the company and potentially also have other effects. These groups have not been required to get vaccines, which is somewhat surprising to me. (I'm not in those groups - I have the option to work remote, although I choose not to.)
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