Same

Tootie4Pack said:

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Coach EA recruiting in Garner and helping a fan celebrate his Birthday.

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That's awesome and a really good place to eat.

Gupton back in the portal and no

Other C.McHugh27 HR

New Lineup up till the 2025 MLB Draft
Catcher D.Lanphere15
1B C.McHugh27
2B L.Nixon0
SS M.Ryan LSU Transfer
3B Novy50/West
LF J.Houge22
CF TY14
RF B.Fraasman2/Devin Mitchell Juco Transfer
DH TBA Lol

Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

This lineup may not 50 homers next year...

They better run

I agree

I mean

Mandras said:

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This lineup may not 50 homers next year...

They better run

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By my count, the players in that lineup that were in college last year combined to hit 54 HR. I'll take the over, even though we don't really know the full roster yet.

Yup

12 of those being JUCO homers? I'm getting 42 ncaa baseball home runs in 2025 from that group.

Anyway, your point is taken. The roster isn't complete.

Just not a lineup that scares anyone as currently constructed.

Look at the GT lineup... now that is scary.

Yeah, the post clearly said college, of which JUCO qualifies. Every single year, guys we being in eclipse their power numbers from their previous stop or previous year. It's actually pretty remarkable. I'm not even going to bother to type the actual numbers, cause you'll just poo poo them somehow, but there's years of data showing that we're damn good at maximizing guys power. So yeah, we'll hit 50 homers, easily.

Mandras said:

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Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

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Why would you sign when you have another year left to come back and improve your stock? Not saying it won't happen but not sure it is the best advice trying to start that grind with the chance of being cut and out of ball in a couple months.

Jtilley said:

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Mandras said:

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Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

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Why would you sign when you have another year left to come back and improve your stock? Not saying it won't happen but not sure it is the best advice trying to start that grind with the chance of being cut and out of ball in a couple months.

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Seniors sign for no money because they have no leverage. So financially it rarely makes sense to come back if someone is willing to pay you as a Junior.

Now if we were giving out fat NIL checks that may make a difference, but I haven't heard us doing that.

rwwalsh said:

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Jtilley said:

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Mandras said:

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Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

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Why would you sign when you have another year left to come back and improve your stock? Not saying it won't happen but not sure it is the best advice trying to start that grind with the chance of being cut and out of ball in a couple months.

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Seniors sign for no money because they have no leverage. So financially it rarely makes sense to come back if someone is willing to pay you as a Junior.

Now if we were giving out fat NIL checks that may make a difference, but I haven't heard us doing that.

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How much leverage do undrafted juniors actually have? I mean let's be honest here, if they had so much interest to use said leverage they would be getting drafted.

IIRC, isn't there like a $20K cap on UDFA signings? In fairness, that could be dated and I don't have the energy to look it up.

As JUCO guys, both Hogue and Fraasman (should) have that extra JUCO year to use so they prolly do have some more leverage.

CLTWolf said:

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rwwalsh said:

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Jtilley said:

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Mandras said:

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Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

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Why would you sign when you have another year left to come back and improve your stock? Not saying it won't happen but not sure it is the best advice trying to start that grind with the chance of being cut and out of ball in a couple months.

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Seniors sign for no money because they have no leverage. So financially it rarely makes sense to come back if someone is willing to pay you as a Junior.

Now if we were giving out fat NIL checks that may make a difference, but I haven't heard us doing that.

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How much leverage do undrafted juniors actually have? I mean let's be honest here, if they had so much interest to use said leverage they would be getting drafted.

IIRC, isn't there like a $20K cap on UDFA signings? In fairness, that could be dated and I don't have the energy to look it up.

As JUCO guys, both Hogue and Fraasman (should) have that extra JUCO year to use so they prolly do have some more leverage.

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They have no leverage either, but if someone did offer them a UDFA deal for whatever reason they'd be kinda dumb not to take it. Don't think you see those happen often though so if they go undrafted they should be back.

That's a good point about the JUCO years, should definitely increase their chances of returning if they don't go in the top 10 rounds.

rwwalsh said:

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CLTWolf said:

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rwwalsh said:

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Jtilley said:

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Mandras said:

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Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

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Why would you sign when you have another year left to come back and improve your stock? Not saying it won't happen but not sure it is the best advice trying to start that grind with the chance of being cut and out of ball in a couple months.

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Seniors sign for no money because they have no leverage. So financially it rarely makes sense to come back if someone is willing to pay you as a Junior.

Now if we were giving out fat NIL checks that may make a difference, but I haven't heard us doing that.

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How much leverage do undrafted juniors actually have? I mean let's be honest here, if they had so much interest to use said leverage they would be getting drafted.

IIRC, isn't there like a $20K cap on UDFA signings? In fairness, that could be dated and I don't have the energy to look it up.

As JUCO guys, both Hogue and Fraasman (should) have that extra JUCO year to use so they prolly do have some more leverage.

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They have no leverage either, but if someone did offer them a UDFA deal for whatever reason they'd be kinda dumb not to take it. Don't think you see those happen often though so if they go undrafted they should be back.

That's a good point about the JUCO years, should definitely increase their chances of returning if they don't go in the top 10 rounds.

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That's what I was saying, Fraasman has multiple years left for leverage. Hogue has at least one as well. Unless someone is going to give me a decent deal, I'd rather come back and try to show a little more. Worst case you sign next year for probably not much difference in money.

I should just add that it is so hard predicting what guys will do when it comes to pro ball and I really gave up guessing a while back.

I can see a team liking Fraasman but with his numbers this past year maybe he comes back and tries to prove he can hit a little more.

rwwalsh said:

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CLTWolf said:

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rwwalsh said:

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Jtilley said:

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Mandras said:

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Fraasman and Hogue are probably going to sign UDFA deals if not drafted. If one was to stay, it'll be Hogue IMO

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Why would you sign when you have another year left to come back and improve your stock? Not saying it won't happen but not sure it is the best advice trying to start that grind with the chance of being cut and out of ball in a couple months.

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Seniors sign for no money because they have no leverage. So financially it rarely makes sense to come back if someone is willing to pay you as a Junior.

Now if we were giving out fat NIL checks that may make a difference, but I haven't heard us doing that.

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How much leverage do undrafted juniors actually have? I mean let's be honest here, if they had so much interest to use said leverage they would be getting drafted.

IIRC, isn't there like a $20K cap on UDFA signings? In fairness, that could be dated and I don't have the energy to look it up.

As JUCO guys, both Hogue and Fraasman (should) have that extra JUCO year to use so they prolly do have some more leverage.

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They have no leverage either, but if someone did offer them a UDFA deal for whatever reason they'd be kinda dumb not to take it. Don't think you see those happen often though so if they go undrafted they should be back.

That's a good point about the JUCO years, should definitely increase their chances of returning if they don't go in the top 10 rounds.

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I can only speak for myself but I'd rather come back to school and get some NIL money and try to get drafted as a slot saver the next year.

Also, I just looked it up and I was dated on my info. MLB changed the $20K deal in 2022, so now anything over $150K counts against the pool.

So yeah, if some team offers up something north of $75K or so I'd probably leave myself.

Des Kitchings kid just flipped to NC State Baseball