2025 offseason discussion thread

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JCooke93
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No Dudan is starting and so is Nance
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Only guy guaranteed a starting spot in rotation is Marohn (Friday night). All other guys will have the Fall season to earn an opportunity to compete in January for rotation spots (most likely 7 or 8 guys - just like this past Spring).
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StateFan2001 said:

You are allowed to get better. I would certainly want him back. He is a quality arm to plug in somewhere. Maybe he is a back of thr bullpen guy instead of a starter.

Agreed. We're a better team with him on the roster, regardless of his role.

We'd be pretty excited to get a transfer that struck out 9 in 6 innings against Clemson. There's still potential there for a guy who has starter for one season to improve and be a helpful piece.
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Hm
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Jtilley said:

pack2010 said:

Jtilley said:

I'm saying I'm coming back to be a midweek guy or middle reliever, that's me though. I want to start, either here or somewhere else my draft year.

Maybe he sticks in the rotation and Dudan in the pen? Will be interesting to see what happens.


Right but what are his options? Portal is closed and draft is over. He can go pro and make maybe $10k and peanuts after that. Or come back and work to get better

But you could be right, maybe the coaches just really like him and want him as a weekend guy. Personally, I hope not, but it's not my call

I'd imagine some kind of conversation was had at the end of the season between him and the coaches.

I'd just find it hard to believe he'd be coming back and giving up a weekend spot in the rotation during his draft year.

I wonder more about Dudan and if he actually moves to the rotation or not. I thought Villiman would have moved back [color=#202122][font=sans-serif]to the rotation after his sophomore year but didn't.

I've been wrong plenty of times and could be here as well though. [/font][/color]


For NC State reasons, if Andrews is starting and Dudan isn't, that is doing a big disservice and not giving NCSU the best chance to win. We have a decent sample size of both, and there is zero question who the more talented pitcher is (by a long shot). Dudan might suck as a starter, who knows, but you HAVE to give him that chance even if it hurts Andrews feelings. Nance too for that matter.
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pack2010 said:

Jtilley said:

pack2010 said:

Jtilley said:

I'm saying I'm coming back to be a midweek guy or middle reliever, that's me though. I want to start, either here or somewhere else my draft year.

Maybe he sticks in the rotation and Dudan in the pen? Will be interesting to see what happens.


Right but what are his options? Portal is closed and draft is over. He can go pro and make maybe $10k and peanuts after that. Or come back and work to get better

But you could be right, maybe the coaches just really like him and want him as a weekend guy. Personally, I hope not, but it's not my call

I'd imagine some kind of conversation was had at the end of the season between him and the coaches.

I'd just find it hard to believe he'd be coming back and giving up a weekend spot in the rotation during his draft year.

I wonder more about Dudan and if he actually moves to the rotation or not. I thought Villiman would have moved back [color=#202122][font=sans-serif]to the rotation after his sophomore year but didn't.

I've been wrong plenty of times and could be here as well though. [/font][/color]


For NC State reasons, if Andrews is starting and Dudan isn't, that is doing a big disservice and not giving NCSU the best chance to win. We have a decent sample size of both, and there is zero question who the more talented pitcher is (by a long shot). Dudan might suck as a starter, who knows, but you HAVE to give him that chance even if it hurts Andrews feelings. Nance too for that matter.



To follow up- I said this last season when I thought Nance should be in Andrews role, but why cant Andrews stuff play up in the backend? He had the 3rd or 4th highest velo last fall at about 96 to go with a very high spin rate breaking ball. When starting he was more 90-93ish. That stuff profiles as a good backend piece, IMO.
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Staff had an entire season to switch things up with weekend starters and didn't. It's safe to say they might feel differently about Andrews than the message board does. Andrews had stretches where he was unhittable, stretches where he couldn't get an out, and some times when his team behind him in the field let him down. Nance was amazing out of the pen for a stretch, and then seemed to come back to Earth some towards the end of the season. I'm not penciling anyone in as a weekend starter at this point other than Mahron. I'm sure they'll give everyone a chance to win those roles and we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out. There's some really talented relievers out there that couldn't cut it as starters for whatever reasons, and vice versa.
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Fri J.Dudan41
Sat R.Marohn20
Sunday A.Nance34
Bullpen H.Andrews19 and C.Consiglio28
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pack2010 said:

Jtilley said:

pack2010 said:

Jtilley said:

I'm saying I'm coming back to be a midweek guy or middle reliever, that's me though. I want to start, either here or somewhere else my draft year.

Maybe he sticks in the rotation and Dudan in the pen? Will be interesting to see what happens.


Right but what are his options? Portal is closed and draft is over. He can go pro and make maybe $10k and peanuts after that. Or come back and work to get better

But you could be right, maybe the coaches just really like him and want him as a weekend guy. Personally, I hope not, but it's not my call

I'd imagine some kind of conversation was had at the end of the season between him and the coaches.

I'd just find it hard to believe he'd be coming back and giving up a weekend spot in the rotation during his draft year.

I wonder more about Dudan and if he actually moves to the rotation or not. I thought Villiman would have moved back [color=#202122][font=sans-serif]to the rotation after his sophomore year but didn't.

I've been wrong plenty of times and could be here as well though. [/font][/color]


For NC State reasons, if Andrews is starting and Dudan isn't, that is doing a big disservice and not giving NCSU the best chance to win. We have a decent sample size of both, and there is zero question who the more talented pitcher is (by a long shot). Dudan might suck as a starter, who knows, but you HAVE to give him that chance even if it hurts Andrews feelings. Nance too for that matter.






I'm not arguing Dudan and Nance shouldn't be the weekend starters. I'm just saying I'd find it odd for Andrews to return and take a bullpen role after being a weekend starter. Doesn't make much sense on his part when he could have just been drafted or transferred a lot of places to be that guy.
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It's July.
Jtilley
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rwwalsh said:

It's July.

What else is there to talk about?

Also, this is titled "2025 Offseason Discussion Thread".
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Portal news soon I think
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Sat Ace lol
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Fri Ace
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Briggs dad is a State grad.
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Wow
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Looks like D.Fritton51 signed with the Rays
 
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