Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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SniderFC said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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Agreed Doak needs an upgrade in a bad way. The program has more than earned it. We should all go in on a lottery pool for State athletics, someone's gotta win it right?? lol

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CLTWolf said:

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SniderFC said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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Agreed Doak needs an upgrade in a bad way. The program has more than earned it. We should all go in on a lottery pool for State athletics, someone's gotta win it right?? lol

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I'm in for the lottery pool. Just tell me where to venmo!

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Pack92036 said:

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What a thoughtful post and no wonder coming from a "Civilized" username. This should be "pinned" and required reading

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SniderFC said:

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CLTWolf said:

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SniderFC said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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Agreed Doak needs an upgrade in a bad way. The program has more than earned it. We should all go in on a lottery pool for State athletics, someone's gotta win it right?? lol

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I'm in for the lottery pool. Just tell me where to venmo!

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Idk about the legality of it but I'm seriously down to do this if it's possible LOL

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Nairo said:

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Put it right here

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Colonel Armstrong said:

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James Henderson said:

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Avent on winning a ACC regular season title: "That's for the fans. That's what the fans talk about. You know me. I always talk about going to postseason and having a chance to play for a national championship. Who won tonight? I have no idea."

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The youth would say this is "cope"

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Game 51 vs. Stanford pic.twitter.com/rr9eeZagJN

— NC State Baseball Equipment (@PackBaseballEQ) May 17, 2025

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GoPack7623 said:

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What's wild to me is that the coach that has been here for 20+ years without a title of any kind makes comments diminishing a regular season title.

Sure it's not the ultimate goal but it should be the 1st goal! Win the regular season and get the #1 seed. Secure a host post and put yourself in the best position possible to win a conference tournament title and make it to Omaha.

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Sweet 16s and Elite 8s matter more in baseball to some.

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GoPack7623 said:

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What's wild to me is that the coach that has been here for 20+ years without a title of any kind makes comments diminishing a regular season title.

Sure it's not the ultimate goal but it should be the 1st goal! Win the regular season and get the #1 seed. Secure a host post and put yourself in the best position possible to win a conference tournament title and make it to Omaha.

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Nairo said:

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Exactly. It's a real problem that the best seat in the house is standing on the first base concourse, which is what many of the actual ticket holders do. Doak is just built into too small of a space. It's cramped and there isn't much you can do from an expansion standpoint. Play at U.S.A. baseball or maybe Ting for a year, and rebuild it completely with an actual long term vision. Doak is beyond its useful life. No one would be upset if we hit pause on the current project and reassess to actually get this right. Otherwise we are stuck with this thing for another 20 years

StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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I40Wolf said:

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Nairo said:

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Exactly. It's a real problem that the best seat in the house is standing on the first base concourse, which is what many of the actual ticket holders do. Doak is just built into too small of a space. It's cramped and there isn't much you can do from an expansion standpoint. Play at U.S.A. baseball or maybe Ting for a year, and rebuild it completely with an actual long term vision. Doak is beyond its useful life. No one would be upset if we hit pause on the current project and reassess to actually get this right. Otherwise we are stuck with this thing for another 20 years

StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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Absolutely agreed on the stadium part. It is mindboggling we haven't used the recent success to build a 5,000 seat palace and make Doak the place to be in Raleigh during the April-June window. So much revenue left on the table between gate receipts and beer sales

StateFan2001 said:

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Big picture this team has overachieved. We are put together like a small market MLB team. We have a few high end arms that were home grown and then seemingly were working on a very tight budget in the free agent market. This leads to a team that has limitations offensively but remains competitive due to the high end arms. Gonna have some losses you don't like when your offense is limited. Pitching will win a lot of games but it doesn't win out every night.

Going to need more money to compete nationally I suspect moving forward. The SEC, with football money but also money derived from these huge stadiums they fill consistently, is going to have a different level of talent than we can put together. If we are going to continue to be a lower budget roster, we need to pick it up with HS recruiting. Look at our lineup - there are very few highly rated HS recruits playing. Sosa and Head are about it and neither player is from NC. We need to do a better job in state with all the talent that is produced in NC. Look at the 2026 class that is mostly done. We have a few hangovers from freshman year commitments that probably aren't playing at this level as juniors. We have 2-3 high end offensive talents coming in and really not much in terms of arms. Need more than that in a given class.

Having said that, I have said and will say I wish we would invest more heavily in baseball - facilities and players.

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This!! We continue to put lipstick on the pig. Even after this upgrade, it will still just be a better dressed pig in nice makeup. Needs torn down and completely redone but our cheap a$$es don't have enough money and gumption to get it done.

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Yep go play at USA baseball for a year and do this thing right.

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That's exactly what I do. I have a season ticket behind home plate with a great view and I never spend more than 2-3 innings in my seat. Some games I never go to my seat.

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wilmwolf said:

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It's mildly amusing how regular season vs tournament titles are discussed around here. If you win a tournament title, it can be dismissed as just having a lucky week. Then I've seen today that winning the regular season wouldn't be an accomplishment because our record isn't impressive enough. I've also seen that nobody cares about the regular season title, which I guess is the case until you lose a game that could've won you one, then lots of people care apparently. I think the only way to really make people happy would be to dominate the regular season, win the regular season title, and then dominantly win the tournament with no help or luck. That night satisfy the masses.

I just want EA to get some sort of title, because that's really the only thing that folks can use against him. There's no doubt that getting to Omaha is a much bigger accomplishment than winning either conference title, but I'm tired of hearing about how long it's been. This isn't anywhere close to his best team, but they've been punching above their weight, and if they do win the regular season, it will be deserved, regardless of their record. And if they don't end up the regular season champs, the tournament is there for the taking with the new format. Just win one somehow.

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