Israel and Iran conflict

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hokiewolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

Congressman Thomas Massie said this on "Face The Nation" (video on 2nd slide of this IG post).

Along with MTG, Massie is one of the very few people in DC with courage to speak the full truth on most issues and stand up for what's right.

I'm sure that Storm and hokie would smear MTG and Massie as "antisemites" and say that they should be banned from social media and be silenced for calling out AIPAC and opposing Israel pushing us into war with Iran.

https://instagr.am/p/DLNhs4Gupog
Massie no, he's principled. MTG yes, she believes in Jewish space lasers.
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This message board is what I imagine hell being like
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hokiewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Congressman Thomas Massie said this on "Face The Nation" (video on 2nd slide of this IG post).

Along with MTG, Massie is one of the very few people in DC with courage to speak the full truth on most issues and stand up for what's right.

I'm sure that Storm and hokie would smear MTG and Massie as "antisemites" and say that they should be banned from social media and be silenced for calling out AIPAC and opposing Israel pushing us into war with Iran.

https://instagr.am/p/DLNhs4Gupog
Massie no, he's principled. MTG yes, she believes in Jewish space lasers.


Space lasers? So you rely on blatant misrepresentation of someone's true beliefs in order to demonize them.

Same thing you do with me when you cry and whine for someone to censor me here.
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People have a strong value that once they make a decision, nothing will change that decision, regardless of the merit or validity of that decision. Last half of my professional career has been in technical process equipment sales. Interesting that at sometimes seemingly at a random point where a person feels they have enough information to make a decision, they do it, and it's over.

Most politicians try to straddle the fence and take different, often inconsistent positions on issues. I see a lot of people who will select a politician's position that aligns with what they were already thinking and latch on to it. Regardless of whether said politician had a quite the opposite position on the same issue a year ago.
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MTG statement on the US attacks on Iran…

She says this is a war cheerleaded by "neocon warmongers" and that this is "Israel's war" and the United States should not be involved, and Americans are sick and tired of funding and fighting these useless wars.



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My thoughts on bombing Iran.

I don't know anyone in America who has been the victim of a crime or killed by Iran, but I know many people who have been victims of crime committed by criminal illegal aliens or MURDERED by Cartel and Chinese fentanyl/drugs.

Almost everyone in our country can relate to this fact.

However America has not dropped bunker busters on the Cartel's sophisticated drug tunnels, launched tomahawks on massive cartel poisonous drug operations, or gone to war against the cartels international terrorists networks.

Neocon warmongers beat their drums of war and act like Billy badasses going to war in countries most Americans have never seen and can't find on a map, but never find the courage to go to war against the actual terrorists who actually do kill Americans, invade our land, and make BILLIONS doing it day after day, year after year.

I'm 51 years old. I'm GenX.

I've watched our country go to war in foreign lands for foreign causes on behalf of foreign interests for as long as I can remember. I was in 10th grade when Desert Storm started and my father before me was sent to Vietnam, another senseless foreign war.

America is $37 TRILLION in debt and all of these foreign wars have cost Americans TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars that never benefited any American.

American troops have been killed and forever torn apart physically and mentally for regime change, foreign wars, and for military industrial base profits.

I'm sick of it.

I can easily say I support nuclear armed Israel's right to defend themselves and also say at the same time I don't want to fight or fund nuclear armed Israel's wars.

Nor any other country for that matter.

I'm sick of funding foreign aid and foreign countries and foreign everything.

I want to fund American interests and issues.

I want GREAT trade deals so American businesses and people can afford goods and be successful.

I want low inflation and low interest rates.

I want American construction, housing, and manufacturing to BOOM.

I want Americans to be rich and have security in their future.

I want my children's generation to HAVE A GREAT FUTURE!!!

My kids are 22, 25, and 27.

It pisses me off beyond comprehension that my children's generation can't afford to buy a house, can't afford insurance, and have little hope for their future!!!

Americans are exhausted by all of this and rightfully so.

I can also support President Trump and his great administration on many of the great things they are doing while disagreeing on bombing Iran and getting involved in a hot war that Israel started.

That's not disloyalty. Critical thinking and having my own opinions is the most American thing ever.

Because contrary to what brainwashed Democrat boomers say, Trump is not a king, MAGA is not a cult, and President Trump has surrounded himself with people who once disagreed with him and even ran against him for President.

Also the same Democrats in Congress that are all of sudden clutching their pearls about Trump bombing Iran FULLY SUPPORTED AND VOTED TO FUND Dementia ridden Biden's proxy war against Russia in Ukraine and stood by Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Hypocrites is all they are and they are just desperately trying to find solid ground to oppose Trump on because so far they've failed at grasping anything yet.

Now what has been done is done and Americans now fear Iranian terrorists attacks on our own soil and being dragged into another war by Netanyahu when we weren't even thinking about any of this a week ago.

We don't know what the future holds and I pray for the safety of all people and an end to the constant demand for America to go to war.

Enough is enough.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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Nairo said:

This message board is what I imagine hell being like


Excellent contribution on your part
GuerrillaPack
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Gulfstream4 said:

Nairo said:

This message board is what I imagine hell being like


Excellent contribution on your part


I know right.

"When people post opinions I don't like, it's hell. And those people should be silenced and censored. I need a safe space where only people who post politically correct opinions that I agree with are allowed to post."
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Werewolf
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GP, you're right on a lot of things and will to stand alone and be heard.

You're wrong on this one, my friend.

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GuerrillaPack
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Werewolf said:

GP, you're right on a lot of things and will to stand alone and be heard.

You're wrong on this one, my friend.


I'm not understanding the point of that Q tweet. What exactly is the argument you are making?
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Werewolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:

GP, you're right on a lot of things and will to stand alone and be heard.

You're wrong on this one, my friend.


I'm not understanding the point of that Q tweet. What exactly is the argument you are making?
There is a very well-known Q post "we're saving Israel for last". I shared that post with you.
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Werewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:

GP, you're right on a lot of things and will to stand alone and be heard.

You're wrong on this one, my friend.


I'm not understanding the point of that Q tweet. What exactly is the argument you are making?
There is a very well-known Q post "we're saving Israel for last". I shared that post with you.


\/\/tf man

I'm telling you that I don't understand what the argument or point of that tweet is. Can you explain it?
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GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:

GP, you're right on a lot of things and will to stand alone and be heard.

You're wrong on this one, my friend.


I'm not understanding the point of that Q tweet. What exactly is the argument you are making?
There is a very well-known Q post "we're saving Israel for last". I shared that post with you.


\/\/tf man

I'm telling you that I don't understand what the argument or point of that tweet is. Can you explain it?
You have been posting that Q is a Mossad Operation. I will tell you that Trump has posted numerous Q posts over the last several months. Trump is not controlled by Mossad or Israel. A famous Q post is "We're saving Israel for last". ........meaning the "Balfour Declaration" Khazarians, not the semitic peoples of what is Israel.

The Q operation is global and more complex than most realize. This war is against teh Satanic Global Cabal.
We will all be stunned when the full truth of what has been underway - the Q plan - is revealed.

The Q operation includes several other militaries, not just the military of the United States. I believe this war is nearly over with a handful of dramatic events to close it out. Get your popcorn out.
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Werewolf
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LOL, I would not want to be on one of those subs. I'd be doing what I begged #daSieve to do.................ABANDON SHIP, hahahahaha. I like ole #Sieve, I do.

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For a moment, I thought it was #daNappy here on the WC. I hate to see us have to kill a bunch of innocent Iranian sailors...........maybe it's mostly Revolutionary Guard.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Nairo said:

This message board is what I imagine hell being like


Excellent contribution on your part
He's a plethora of information, and quite the pragmatist.
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Werewolf
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GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Werewolf said:

GP, you're right on a lot of things and will to stand alone and be heard.

You're wrong on this one, my friend.


I'm not understanding the point of that Q tweet. What exactly is the argument you are making?
There is a very well-known Q post "we're saving Israel for last". I shared that post with you.


\/\/tf man

I'm telling you that I don't understand what the argument or point of that tweet is. Can you explain it?
One more for ya, just off the presses. There are many ways Trump, Scavino and even General Flynn communicate. I'm sure many of these posts are military intelligence too. I've posted before, 200 Generals and Admirals invited Trump to run in 2016.....per Juan O'Savin.

I'll drop the Q topic here now....we can pick it back up on the Q thread if you ever wish to venture over there.

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GuerrillaPack
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The "conspiracy theorists" right again…

As we knew that the real goal of the Israelis is regime change in Iran, now Trump is signaling and stating this is the objective.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hints-regime-change-iran-while-declaring-make-iran-great-again-after-us-strikes.amp

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Trump hints at regime change in Iran while declaring 'MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN' after US strikes


https://instagr.am/p/DLOAKEVs8rq
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Now selling regime change in Iran to the dumbed down masses in the Lamestream propaganda media…

https://instagr.am/p/DLNk_j2uU5c
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Werewolf
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Agreed! A message to the Chinese for sure.

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Werewolf
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Again, I support Trump and taking out the uranium enrichment/nuke facilities. This is an educational post.
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The assassination of Seal Team 6, treason and the cover up

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Mornings w MAria all over it this AM. When Iran is no longer a player peace in the Middle East may be possible. This is in place, thank you Donald Trump!

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FlossyDFlynt said:

As a general observation (because Ive seen it from both sides in the last 24ish hours), it is WILD to me to see so many people defending a country who has been screaming "Death to America" since 1979
I was a basically a brand new freshman at State when they attacked our Embassy and took everyone hostage. It was the beginning of the ABC News show "Nightline"... it was like a nightly vigil that seemingly went on forever.
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TheStorm said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

As a general observation (because Ive seen it from both sides in the last 24ish hours), it is WILD to me to see so many people defending a country who has been screaming "Death to America" since 1979
I was a basically a brand new freshman at State when they attacked our Embassy and took everyone hostage. It was the beginning of the ABC News show "Nightline"... it was like a nightly vigil that seemingly went on forever.
The Iranians had good reason to be hostile against the United States. This hostility didn't just materialize out of thin air. In 1953 the CIA staged a coup and overthrew the government of Iran (removing the "populist" Mohammad Mosaddegh from power). They installed an authoritarian shah in power. The CIA then helped set up a draconian secret police, called "Savak", which spied on political dissidents and then arrested and tortured and imprisoned them.

And this can't be called a "conspiracy THEORY", because it's not a theory. It's now admitted by everyone.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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The 1953 Iranian coup d'tat, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'tat (Persian: ), was the overthrow of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953. Led by the Iranian army and supported by the United States and the United Kingdom, the coup aimed at strengthening the autocratic rule of the shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after its government refused to concede to western oil demands.[5][6][7] It was instigated by the United States (under the name TP-AJAX Project[8] or Operation Ajax) and the United Kingdom (under the name Operation Boot).[9][10][11][12] This began a period of dissolution for Iranian democracy and society.

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Judging Mosaddegh to be unamenable and fearing the growing influence of the communist Tudeh, UK prime minister Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided in early 1953 to overthrow Iran's government. The preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) involvement would set,[19]: 3 and the U.S. government had been considering unilateral action (without UK support) to assist the Mosaddegh government as late as 1952.[20][21][22] British intelligence officials' conclusions and the UK government's solicitations to the US were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

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The Bureau for Intelligence and Security of the State (Persian: , romanized: Szmn-e Ettel't va Amniyyat-e Kevar), shortened to SAVAK (Persian: ) or S.A.V.A.K. (Persian: ....),[2] was the secret police of the Imperial State of Iran. It was established in Tehran in 1957 by national security law,[3] and continued to operate until the Islamic Revolution in 1979, when it was dissolved by Iranian prime minister Shapour Bakhtiar.

According to a declassified CIA memo citing a classified U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee report, the CIA played a significant role in establishing SAVAK, providing both funding and training.[4] The organization became notorious for its extensive surveillance, repression, and torture of political dissidents. The Shah used SAVAK to arrest, imprison, exile, and torture his opponents, leading to widespread public resentment. This discontent was leveraged by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, then in exile, to build popular support for his Islamic philosophy.[5]


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Alex Jones' response to Trump's statement endorsing "regime change" in Iran:

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We need an update from the man who the political Establishment and the Lamestream media says is "America's Rabbi".

Shmuley, the kosher dildo and buttplug salesman, gloats about the attacks on Iran...



"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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We will see what develops, but after todays events this might be just about done. Iran was able to mount a counter strike, as feeble as it was, to maintain face and act as if they responded to Trump and America.

All missiles fired at the U.S base in Qatar were intercepted in the air with no damage to the facility or military personnel. Iran made it a point in a statement to point out that the same number of missiles were used in the "attack" on the base as were used in the destruction of their nuclear facilities to seemingly put a little finality to their response. Reminds me of the half a**ed response by Iran to the killing of that terrorist scumbag Soleimani during Trump's first term.

Like I said, we'll see where this goes from here, but I won't be surprised if we're basically done here. Crude oil down 6% today to the level it was before the first strike from Israel.
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Hammer Time
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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So WW III is already over ?


Dat was quick
Gulfstream4
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Bas2020 said:

So WW III is already over ?


Dat was quick


Yup. On to the next GET TRUMP outrage.
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The potential for the United States becoming involved in something closer to "full scale" war with Iran in the near future is not ruled out. There is, for instance, the very real possibility of the Israelis (or CIA, etc) trying to pull us back into the conflict by staging a "false flag" attack (such as terrorism inside the United States) against the United States to be blamed on Iran.

The following "report" is a HUGE smoking gun for the potential for such a false flag event that was discussed on the Alex Jones show today. It is an "intelligence report" that was produced by an Israeli-linked "think tank" (and released just about a week ago) on the subject of this Israeli-Iran conflict that smears those who are MAGA/Trump supporters and influencers who identify events as being "false flags" as being "Iranian agents" or "Russian agents".

So, basically they are trying to smear conservatives and MAGA people who have opposed this Iran conflict (such as Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Candace Owens, etc) as being "fake MAGA" (their terminology) who are "paid by Russia or Iran" to "sow division within Trump supporters". Yeah sure, the reason that Tucker and Bannon and Alex Jones oppose war with Iran is because the Iranian mullahs are mailing them paychecks. Ridiculous.

This is to set the narrative and justify censorship (or even worse, attempted criminal charges) against those in the MAGA movement who oppose the war against Iran -- by falsely claiming that they are "Russian agents" or "Iranian agents".

And the fact that they specifically mention "false flag" attacks as the subject of their report indicates that the Israelis may be planning to use such a false flag terrorist attack in the near future, to pull the United States into full-blown war with Iran.


https://networkcontagion.us/reports/6-18-25-false-flags-and-fake-maga-how-foreign-and-inauthentic-networks-use-fake-speech-to-destabilize-the-right-from-within/

And we are seeing many "MAGA influencers" like Charlie Kirk (and others) repeating the talking points from this report, and accusing people like Tucker and Bannon and Alex as being "fake MAGA" - and using literally the same wording in their tweets, showing it was a script they were told to parrot.

So what we are ACTUALLY seeing are "MAGA" influencers who are literally on the payroll of Israeli-linked organizations (AIPAC) and "think tanks", etc. It's projection. The Israelis are the foreign government that OPENLY buys off our politicians, political influencers, etc.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
 
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