Trump rolling into the UFC tonight in NYC with Tucker and Kid Rock to USA chants. Honest question, could Joe Biden go to any sporting event in America and get this reception? pic.twitter.com/HZMdVnN0SD
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) November 12, 2023
Trump rolling into the UFC tonight in NYC with Tucker and Kid Rock to USA chants. Honest question, could Joe Biden go to any sporting event in America and get this reception? pic.twitter.com/HZMdVnN0SD
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) November 12, 2023
Trump, Tucker, Kid Rock, Dana White & Don Jr.
— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) November 12, 2023
Ultimate Squad Goals pic.twitter.com/PO5ITHSZoQ
This is so cool! President Trump, Don Jr., Kid Rock, Tucker, Dana White, Dan Bongino and more walking into MSG for the #UFC fight 🔥🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/HmS9MuoHUL
— 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕷𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖊𝖘𝖘™️ (@CL4WS_OUT) November 12, 2023
Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
Thanks Hokie, we were all on the edge of our seats waiting for your opinion on him We also know you won't vote for the Republican nominee regardless.hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I definitely agree that Haley is a throwback to yesteryear when Republicans were at least somewhat moored to reality... which is of course why she has no chance atm. Hopefully this current cult with burn itself out soon and they'll get back to a conservative party run by adults... not sure how our 2-party system can survive much longer without one.Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
SmaptyWolf said:I definitely agree that Haley is a throwback to yesteryear when Republicans were at least somewhat moored to reality... which is of course why she has no chance atm. Hopefully this current cult with burn itself out soon and they'll get back to a conservative party run by adults... not sure how our 2-party system can survive much longer without one.Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
I am curious... aside from his age (though his "frailty" is way overstated by right wingers), what are your main hang-ups with Biden? If Trump had unemployment numbers this low they'd have already chiseled his face on Mt Rushmore.
Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
TheStorm said:
"It would give me pause"
That's hilarious...
packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
LOL.
You're batting 1.000 on this post.
You accurately described 100% of my positions on these issues. My only surprise is that you didn't throw Russia collussion in there.
Good job.
Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
LOL.
You're batting 0.000 on this post.
You inaccurately described 100% of my positions on these issues. My only surprise is that you didn't throw Russia collussion in there.
Good job.
Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:I definitely agree that Haley is a throwback to yesteryear when Republicans were at least somewhat moored to reality... which is of course why she has no chance atm. Hopefully this current cult with burn itself out soon and they'll get back to a conservative party run by adults... not sure how our 2-party system can survive much longer without one.Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
I am curious... aside from his age (though his "frailty" is way overstated by right wingers), what are your main hang-ups with Biden? If Trump had unemployment numbers this low they'd have already chiseled his face on Mt Rushmore.
Age is my biggest hangup with Biden. I'm ageist AF when it comes to presidents. We shouldn't have 70 YO presidents, much less octogenarians.
My concerns with Biden's age are both performance-related and also the somewhat unlikely (but not terribly-so) possibility that he dies or otherwise becomes unable to continue and Kamala gets to sit in the big girls' chair. She ain't my favey.
I also think he's bent over too much for the wingnuts on the far-left. My hope when he was elected was he would be more centrist and look for more bipartisan solutions than he has to-date (which given the polarized nature of politics now it probably shouldn't be so surprising he had a hard time finding common solutions with a party that's being held hostage by Trump). I think our country needs more centrist, pragmatic, non-partisan solutions and I could easily get behind someone that's actually fairly centrist like Manchin making a run.
My biggest concern with Biden this cycle is that I think running him again is the only way Trump sniffs the Oval Office again. I think any normal, rational, not-elderly Dem candidate beats the breaks off Trump. The irony is that I think someone like Haley would also win resoundingly over Biden. Biden and Trump are two quite unpopular candidates at this point (much like in '16). I voted for Biden in '20 and I would hold my nose and do it again in '24 if he's facing Trump. If Haley actually won the nomination facing Biden (she won't), it would give me pause.
Long story short, Biden's warts don't hold a candle to Trump's but if the world was my oyster neither would be on the ticket next year.
caryking said:Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
LOL.
You're batting 0.000 on this post.
You inaccurately described 100% of my positions on these issues. My only surprise is that you didn't throw Russia collussion in there.
Good job.
Civ, what is your position on the following:
BLM
Defund the police
Any government mandate on Covid, whether State or Federal
Men in women's sports
Is gender a male and female or a spectrum
Honestly, I don't know your positions; so, enlighten everyone would probably help so you aren't miss associated with certain beliefs…
We have millions of illegal immigrants streaming through our borders, entire cities being overrun by violent criminals, and crooked liberals trying to throw the leading GOP candidate in prison.
— NotKennyRogers (@NotKennyRogers) November 15, 2023
Nikki Haley: "We need to force people to use their real names on Twitter!"
.@NikkiHaley is *openly* pushing for the government to use private tech companies to censor speech. This is a flagrant violation of the Constitution and straight out of the Democrats’ playbook. Any politician who thinks it’s OK for the government to use the private sector as its… pic.twitter.com/Cb1847r6CA
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) November 14, 2023
caryking said:Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
LOL.
You're batting 0.000 on this post.
You inaccurately described 100% of my positions on these issues. My only surprise is that you didn't throw Russia collussion in there.
Good job.
Civ, what is your position on the following:
BLM
Defund the police
Any government mandate on Covid, whether State or Federal
Men in women's sports
Is gender a male and female or a spectrum
Honestly, I don't know your positions; so, enlighten everyone would probably help so you aren't miss associated with certain beliefs…
Civ, thanks for the responses... I think you clearly stated what I thought you would say. As you probably realize, we differ on a number of items; however, that's ok... That's what makes this country great!Civilized said:caryking said:Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
LOL.
You're batting 0.000 on this post.
You inaccurately described 100% of my positions on these issues. My only surprise is that you didn't throw Russia collussion in there.
Good job.
Civ, what is your position on the following:
BLM
Defund the police
Any government mandate on Covid, whether State or Federal
Men in women's sports
Is gender a male and female or a spectrum
Honestly, I don't know your positions; so, enlighten everyone would probably help so you aren't miss associated with certain beliefs…
BLM:
The organization is cooky as hell but social justice is terribly important. I've said on here countless times there's no reason why we can't implement common sense measures like de-escalation training, blind charging and sentencing, bias training, selective drug de-criminalization, etc. to draw POC criminal justice outcomes in line with those for whites especially for petty drug offenses. POC shouldn't be pulled by cops, arrested, charged, convicted, and/or sentenced at significantly higher rates than whites that commit the same crimes.
Defund the police:
Dumb as ****
Any government mandate on Covid, whether State or Federal:
Government as an employer? Fine with employers doing what they feel they legally need to do. Employers in most states have the right to prescribe such mandates if they believe their business is best-served by doing so. If you don't like that, change the applicable laws like the Pubs are doing in NC. I don't have problems with using the legislative process to effect change. I do think it's rationally inconsistent to allow private businesses to mandate vaccines but not government (in an employer role). Like I've said on here before I did not require my staff to vaxx but believe there are valid reasons and situations for doing so.
Men in women's sports: Fine with it through middle school. At that age and level of competition, who cares? I would not allow it in high school and up. At some point after boys hit puberty at 15/16 it needs to stop. I think it's ridiculous to allow it in college/professional/Olympic environments. However I also think people are big Puritanical drama queen babies that sexualize bodies and simple anatomy in ways that are completely unhealthy - and this far transcends the issue of trans athletes. I also think the issue of trans athletes is a completely fringe issue that, while important to trans athletes and their families, has been turned into a the right's new "family values" placeholder, like gay marriage was in the early aughts. Much like gay marriage I also think it's a loser for the right to continue obsessing over it.
Is gender a male and female or a spectrum:
A spectrum, obv. Do I think 90%+ of people are just guys or gals? Yes. Do I think the simple matter of being born with a dick or vagina makes this open and shut for 100% of people? No. Why would gender be any different in this way than sexuality? If there are valid biological/hormonal drivers for a small fraction men to be attracted to men and women to women, it makes sense there is a biological/hormonal reason for a small fraction of people born with a vagina to feel and want to live like a man. I don't think it's too big an ask to continue trying to better understand this phenomenon medically and psychologically and meanwhile support such people with some grace when and where possible.
caryking said:Civ, thanks for the responses... I think you clearly stated what I thought you would say. As you probably realize, we differ on a number of items; however, that's ok... That's what makes this country great!Civilized said:caryking said:Civilized said:packgrad said:Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:Civilized said:hokiewolf said:Someone who will be the brakes off of Biden, and it ain't going to be Trump or Vivek. In current polling "generic republican" beats the brakes off of Biden. Give me a generic Republican, not some lunatic.caryking said:Hokie, who are you liking?hokiewolf said:I think he's an idiot and a jackass.caryking said:If my guy goes to prison, like some want, then I'll be voting for Vivek.Oldsouljer said:Oh, I'm not going to vote for him, don't get me wrong. But he's doing amazing job of putting other candidates on the spot who haven't called out her pathetic excuse for leadership.Werewolf said:Evidence that his education was funded by Soros. He talks a great game and I have no issues with his words. He's spot on but could he be a Soros shill. Just sayin'.caryking said:
Vivek is as good a communicator as we've seen in a long time, pure and simple…
Trust but verify or don't trust and attempt to verify. It's nearly impossible when the news media is controlled.
C'mon Nikki!
You know the Water Cooler is full of radical nutcases when two of the three "liberals" are just Republicans who aren't down with the MAGA cult.
I'm sure the "Never Dem" crowd on here will get a chuckle out of that.
Hell they think it's funny I'm a pretindependent.
If I were voting Pub, Haley is clearly the most palatable and compassionate of the Pub field, especially given her softened or better-explained stances on gay marriage and abortion.
Ramaswamy and DeSantis are Trump wannabe loons. Scott was interesting as a candidate given his positivity and it's ironic and hilarious he got chased out by donors for maybe being gay but he's convinced it's because he's black, neither of which are exactly ringing endorsements of the humanity of the party but do illustrate perfectly where the party is right now.
We'd all be much much better off with a Buttigieg - Haley race (or Wes Moore or Shapiro or Whitmer or whoever) than Biden-Trump for sure.
Shows what a moron that guy is when he thinks you're Republican, or hell independent. You supported BLM, Defund the police, every government mandate during covid, you're fine with men pretending to be women showering with girls, you believe in dozens of genders. It shows how far the left has gone when someone that holds these positions think they're independent and the morons on the left think that person is Republican.
LOL.
You're batting 0.000 on this post.
You inaccurately described 100% of my positions on these issues. My only surprise is that you didn't throw Russia collussion in there.
Good job.
Civ, what is your position on the following:
BLM
Defund the police
Any government mandate on Covid, whether State or Federal
Men in women's sports
Is gender a male and female or a spectrum
Honestly, I don't know your positions; so, enlighten everyone would probably help so you aren't miss associated with certain beliefs…
BLM:
The organization is cooky as hell but social justice is terribly important. I've said on here countless times there's no reason why we can't implement common sense measures like de-escalation training, blind charging and sentencing, bias training, selective drug de-criminalization, etc. to draw POC criminal justice outcomes in line with those for whites especially for petty drug offenses. POC shouldn't be pulled by cops, arrested, charged, convicted, and/or sentenced at significantly higher rates than whites that commit the same crimes.
Defund the police:
Dumb as ****
Any government mandate on Covid, whether State or Federal:
Government as an employer? Fine with employers doing what they feel they legally need to do. Employers in most states have the right to prescribe such mandates if they believe their business is best-served by doing so. If you don't like that, change the applicable laws like the Pubs are doing in NC. I don't have problems with using the legislative process to effect change. I do think it's rationally inconsistent to allow private businesses to mandate vaccines but not government (in an employer role). Like I've said on here before I did not require my staff to vaxx but believe there are valid reasons and situations for doing so.
Men in women's sports: Fine with it through middle school. At that age and level of competition, who cares? I would not allow it in high school and up. At some point after boys hit puberty at 15/16 it needs to stop. I think it's ridiculous to allow it in college/professional/Olympic environments. However I also think people are big Puritanical drama queen babies that sexualize bodies and simple anatomy in ways that are completely unhealthy - and this far transcends the issue of trans athletes. I also think the issue of trans athletes is a completely fringe issue that, while important to trans athletes and their families, has been turned into a the right's new "family values" placeholder, like gay marriage was in the early aughts. Much like gay marriage I also think it's a loser for the right to continue obsessing over it.
Is gender a male and female or a spectrum:
A spectrum, obv. Do I think 90%+ of people are just guys or gals? Yes. Do I think the simple matter of being born with a dick or vagina makes this open and shut for 100% of people? No. Why would gender be any different in this way than sexuality? If there are valid biological/hormonal drivers for a small fraction men to be attracted to men and women to women, it makes sense there is a biological/hormonal reason for a small fraction of people born with a vagina to feel and want to live like a man. I don't think it's too big an ask to continue trying to better understand this phenomenon medically and psychologically and meanwhile support such people with some grace when and where possible.
Not that anyone asked; rather, I'll just put it out there... In terms of the MAGA movement, I believe we will see a much more hard-lines representative compared to Trump. Lets be honest... Trump is really more moderate compared to most people that support America First! Me included!
Chip Roy is fired up: “I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing that I can go campaign on and say we did. Come explain to me one meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done.”pic.twitter.com/x9rWhl4aaN
— TheBlaze (@theblaze) November 15, 2023
He's right!Civilized said:Chip Roy is fired up: “I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing that I can go campaign on and say we did. Come explain to me one meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done.”pic.twitter.com/x9rWhl4aaN
— TheBlaze (@theblaze) November 15, 2023
You want to know what actual “vermin” is? It’s what crawls around San Francisco daily, until Gavin Newsom chose to finally clean it up on a dime in honor of Xi Jinping. This is a classic MSM trick: obsess over some random word Trump said & sanctimoniously condemn him while… pic.twitter.com/jZpuTLHD4F
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) November 16, 2023
Lol. Where does CNN even find these "on-air personalities" anymore? That was pathetic... I can only imagine what was being said to her through the earpiece while he just completely "dismantled" her "attempted trap-ambush"...packgrad said:
Vivek hits the nail on the head again. Trigger alert for the usuals.You want to know what actual “vermin” is? It’s what crawls around San Francisco daily, until Gavin Newsom chose to finally clean it up on a dime in honor of Xi Jinping. This is a classic MSM trick: obsess over some random word Trump said & sanctimoniously condemn him while… pic.twitter.com/jZpuTLHD4F
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) November 16, 2023
That is prototypical MSM, at its best…. The usuals, as you've called them, would have a field day, supporting commentators like her. Keep on Vivek!! You're touching a nerve, they can't handle!packgrad said:
Vivek hits the nail on the head again. Trigger alert for the usuals.You want to know what actual “vermin” is? It’s what crawls around San Francisco daily, until Gavin Newsom chose to finally clean it up on a dime in honor of Xi Jinping. This is a classic MSM trick: obsess over some random word Trump said & sanctimoniously condemn him while… pic.twitter.com/jZpuTLHD4F
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) November 16, 2023