" As government expands , Liberty contracts"
🎯 🎯 pic.twitter.com/ObcYSbuuYX

— Zelda17Patriot (@Qincidences) January 8, 2025

Even FOX NEWS is catching on to the 17th letter of the alphabet. ;-)

"an hour and 17 minutes, you see how I did that math?" 😁😂🐸 https://t.co/E0WmBZcMaY

— LeshaDawn (@LeshaDawnXOXO) January 7, 2025

America is on the way back!!! Greenlanders wearing MAGA caps!

🚨JUST IN‼️‼️

Donald Trump Jr travels to Greenland after his father renews calls to buy it!

Don Jr and Charlie Kirk in Greenland talking to the President with Greenlanders! pic.twitter.com/CNEOyaMHbO

— JustJamie (@OYourNameHereO) January 7, 2025

Flexing our newfound muscle!

Donald Trump Jr & Charlie Kirk taking off from Greenland to return home and they stated “They love the America here in Greenland” pic.twitter.com/vdxDaNIbzh

— Johnny St.Pete (@JohnMcCloy) January 7, 2025

Werewolf said:

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Flexing our newfound muscle!

Donald Trump Jr & Charlie Kirk taking off from Greenland to return home and they stated “They love the America here in Greenland” pic.twitter.com/vdxDaNIbzh

— Johnny St.Pete (@JohnMcCloy) January 7, 2025

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Looks like a 767. I've been through Greenland a few time for fuel. Cold as "you know what" but a beautiful country.

hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This ain't a black and white issue, sorry. But you can't stop fires when you have sustained winds over 50mph and gusts up to 90min. Fire doesn't care if you're gay or straight, democrats or republican. DEI has nothing to do with this.

To boil this tragedy into a political talking point t is just a ****ty thing to do

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Remember when Dems lol'd at Western NC for being completely unprepared for flooding? Yeah, me neither.

There's something seriously wrong with these guys.

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Yeah, I think I'm pretty much done here. Which I'm sure will be celebrated. I've tried to post things that are at least legit conversation points for both sides but those get ignored for dumb hyperbole. It's just not interesting anymore.

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Aw c'mon. But it's fun!

Getting into the nuts and bolts, while the American people slept, the American Govt sold them out.......turned a blind eye.

DECLARING TRADE WAR ‼️ China made roughly $5B in the last 5 years in Greenland . They used a company called Greenland Minerals .
Chinese company, Shenghe Resources Holdings, is the largest stakeholder in Greenland Minerals. They have been mining and moving their way into… pic.twitter.com/QUBVrY6yvr

— VeBee🇺🇸✝️ (@VeBo1991) January 9, 2025

Werewolf said:

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Getting into the nuts and bolts, while the American people slept, the American Govt sold them out.......turned a blind eye.

DECLARING TRADE WAR ‼️ China made roughly $5B in the last 5 years in Greenland . They used a company called Greenland Minerals .
Chinese company, Shenghe Resources Holdings, is the largest stakeholder in Greenland Minerals. They have been mining and moving their way into… pic.twitter.com/QUBVrY6yvr

— VeBee🇺🇸✝️ (@VeBo1991) January 9, 2025

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Joe is making bank off Ukraine while China is getting more and more ahead.

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Werewolf said:

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Getting into the nuts and bolts, while the American people slept, the American Govt sold them out.......turned a blind eye.

DECLARING TRADE WAR ‼️ China made roughly $5B in the last 5 years in Greenland . They used a company called Greenland Minerals .
Chinese company, Shenghe Resources Holdings, is the largest stakeholder in Greenland Minerals. They have been mining and moving their way into… pic.twitter.com/QUBVrY6yvr

— VeBee🇺🇸✝️ (@VeBo1991) January 9, 2025

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Joe is making bank off Ukraine while China is getting more and more ahead.

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Yep, we've been fleeced by the Globalists who control our Federal Govt - aggressively - for at least the last 34-35 years and certainly to a degree since Kissinger's trip to China. #SOLD-us-OUT

China's Shenghe Resources Holding Co Ltd - the largest shareholder in Greenland Minerals Ltd - has formed a joint venture company with subsidiaries of China National Nuclear Corporation for the trading and processing of rare earth minerals. https://t.co/4ufZACJSK3 pic.twitter.com/nIOQIfJTc0

— Dynatek Articulated (@DynatekLoading) January 30, 2019

#MAGA Is coming like a freight train, baby!
Who is this Scavino character?LOL ;-)

🦅🇺🇸🔥Dan Scavino Crumbs🔥🇺🇸🦅
Dropping Fire At 14:34 EST with a 60 Sec Clip

##1434
🔥🔥RAPID FIRE🔥🔥
🌊FLOOD COMING🌊

##60
You can count the people who have the full picture on two hands.
Of those (less than 10 people) only three are non-military.

Remember our Livestreams… https://t.co/VnwpvN39AJ pic.twitter.com/efbqw1jX4r

— GH17TAFKAG (@GH17TAFKAG) May 4, 2024

Charlie Kirk podcast - Trip to Greenland w Don Jr

https://rumble.com/v676yyy-charlie-kirk-shares-an-exclusive-look-inside-his-trip-to-greenland.html

Nothing could have been done.....


Zzzzzz

A fire captain in Los Angeles is asked how many fire hydrants have water. His answer:

“Little to none.”

Welcome to the Third World. pic.twitter.com/17cjE1ANRq

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 9, 2025

Dems cry about politicizing this because their leadership had absolutely zero preparedness for an event that happens every year. But climate change and Donald Trump.....

80,000 people told to evacuate.

Blazes 0% contained.

Eight months since the area has seen rain.

The scale of damage and loss is unimaginable.

Climate change is real, not “a hoax.”

Donald Trump must treat this like the existential crisis it is. pic.twitter.com/TDyZZEPmoI

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 8, 2025

'WANTED TO SAVE FISH': Liberal celebrity turns on Dems as admission before deadly wildfires emerges. More details on Sara Foster's scathing takedown of California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass. https://t.co/qXIeg73Zll pic.twitter.com/PB0EkChZmz

— Fox News (@FoxNews) January 9, 2025

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Dems cry about politicizing this because their leadership had absolutely zero preparedness for an event that happens every year. But climate change and Donald Trump.....

80,000 people told to evacuate.

Blazes 0% contained.

Eight months since the area has seen rain.

The scale of damage and loss is unimaginable.

Climate change is real, not “a hoax.”

Donald Trump must treat this like the existential crisis it is. pic.twitter.com/TDyZZEPmoI

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 8, 2025

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Zero planning, not properly clearing brush and dead wood yearly, not allowing for controlled burns, and cutting the budgets for your fire services and not allowing insurance companies in the market to raise rates to stabilize their risk, and then starting a new insurance program that is insolvent. All contributed 99.999999% to this issue. Climate change has a minimal impact.

Simply put, California has not prepared for potential disasters. There are a lot of hands that are culpable in this being the disaster it is. It starts in Sacramento and goes to LA. The return on taxes that California residents get from state government is minimal.

They dont have simple things that have worked forever in the volunteer world - 2500+ gallon tankers and starting a tanker shuttle for water supply.

Again, the winds the other night made every thing that you could do to control a fire impossible to execute any plan. But there was a clear lack of planning for a wildfire in hurricane forced winds and how to organize to take a stand when you can.

"He (Biden) doesn't even know what 625 million acres looks like." LOL 😆 https://t.co/zpbtY8ogSd

— Katie McCauley (@KatieMcCauley07) January 7, 2025

Gobbler is correct, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Tree and minnow hugging can cost much but it's great for virtue signaling.

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Gobbler is correct, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Tree and minnow hugging can cost much but it's great for virtue signaling.

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I think the minnow hugging is an exaggeration as well. Did the area, where the water is, purport this minnow hugging issue? Yes!! I think it has more to do with the fresh water, in that area, that would get harmed, by the brackish water and sea water, unless some type of barrier were to put in place.

Now, the irony is that these are probably the same people that believe in evolution and want humans to solve the issue.

That said, they have known about this problem for 10's of years and have done nothing, it appears...

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The voters voted in $7.5B, I think, of funding 10 years ago to prepare for this and they've done nothing. Complete failure of leadership

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I agree with you but I haven't found the reasons why nothing got done yet. It must be regulatory because that info is hard to find.

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packgrad said:

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The voters voted in $7.5B, I think, of funding 10 years ago to prepare for this and they've done nothing. Complete failure of leadership

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I agree with you but I haven't found the reasons why nothing got done yet. It must be regulatory because that info is hard to find.

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Of course it regulatory. Democrat run states/municipalities are bureaucratic ****holes. It's a Herculean effort to get anything done.

hokiewolf said:

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packgrad said:

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Dems cry about politicizing this because their leadership had absolutely zero preparedness for an event that happens every year. But climate change and Donald Trump.....

80,000 people told to evacuate.

Blazes 0% contained.

Eight months since the area has seen rain.

The scale of damage and loss is unimaginable.

Climate change is real, not “a hoax.”

Donald Trump must treat this like the existential crisis it is. pic.twitter.com/TDyZZEPmoI

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 8, 2025

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Zero planning, not properly clearing brush and dead wood yearly, not allowing for controlled burns, and cutting the budgets for your fire services and not allowing insurance companies in the market to raise rates to stabilize their risk, and then starting a new insurance program that is insolvent. All contributed 99.999999% to this issue. Climate change has a minimal impact.

Simply put, California has not prepared for potential disasters. There are a lot of hands that are culpable in this being the disaster it is. It starts in Sacramento and goes to LA. The return on taxes that California residents get from state government is minimal.

They dont have simple things that have worked forever in the volunteer world - 2500+ gallon tankers and starting a tanker shuttle for water supply.

Again, the winds the other night made every thing that you could do to control a fire impossible to execute any plan. But there was a clear lack of planning for a wildfire in hurricane forced winds and how to organize to take a stand when you can.

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I guess if you can't beat the stupid, join it.

You seriously believe there was zero planning? You really think they aren't clearing brush or doing controlled burns? You think not clearing enough brush or doing enough controlled burns is the issue, when the ENTIRE state is dried up from a severe drought and 100 mile/hour winds can ignite the slightest spark and ignite the fuel that's literally everywhere across millions of private acres? You really think a 2% budget cut (which I agree was stupid) really had any impact on the response, that you just agreed was IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTROL?

Funny, I don't remember this kind of takedown of North Carolina's lack of preparedness for flooding in the mountains. Where was the engineering? Oh that's right, that natural disaster was just an opportunity for the right wing to go after FEMA! Now they get to go after their other favorite punching bag, blue states! What a bunch of anti-American demons.

You need to pull your head out of right wing media and take a breath.

I watched a lot of NBC 4 coverage. What I saw was a response with a lot of urban equipment - Class A engines and ladders that don't have pumps. I'm sure LA City and LA County dumped all the houses just to get the manpower. Where my concern is that the more affective Wildland Urban Interface vehicles that are more capable did not appear to be in the initial alarm or the other alarms for these fires until much later.

The reliance on the water system as your only source of water is a poor planning choice. There are reservoirs around these fires, there are swimming pools. Draft that water into portable fold-a-tanks and have tankers draft water from there and run a tanker shuttle to strategic areas to get the water where it is needed. It seems to me that this apparatus doesn't exist in the fleet, or within the mutual aid departments who have co tracts to provide mutual aid to LA City and LA County.

I'm calling Western Nevada FDs and telling them to haul ass to LA with their 3500 gallon engine and tankers for support. They've got these huge war wagons to fight fires in the rural desert where there are no water sources.

I would get CAL FIRE staged and ready to go, I would ask the Federal Govt and FEMA to declare an emergency and get Hot Shot crews to La and staged.

Then, when the winds die down, you have all the various different resources, including helicopters and airplanes to start to contain the two 15000 acres plus fires.

It does not appear, to my eye watching coverage and listening to the spokespeople from LA City FD and LA County that this happened

Absolutely prescribed burns and vegetation clearing DID NOT HAPPEN. Prescribed burns didn't happen because it would violate air quality laws in California. Vegitation clearing is supposed to be done by the property owner yearly but there is lax oversight because the city and county don't have the money or the resources to verify the citizens are doing their job to protect their property.

Finally it is inexcusable for California to not allow a rate hike for State Farm to reduce their risk portfolio so that they could survive and pay out a catastrophic fire event. So they exited the market. Instead, California decided they were going to do it, and that program is insolvent.

Don't get me started with the Mayor and her press conference. She demonstrated she has no idea what is happening or what she is doing. Same with Newsome, my man is out here blaming climate change and Trump while spending money on various progressive projects and regulations that continue to make California more unaffordable and also now more unsafe.

If you are going to beat the climate change drum for the sole reason that these wildfires were so devistating, then why was the government - state and local caught so flat footed with their response??

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hokiewolf said:

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packgrad said:

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Dems cry about politicizing this because their leadership had absolutely zero preparedness for an event that happens every year. But climate change and Donald Trump.....

80,000 people told to evacuate.

Blazes 0% contained.

Eight months since the area has seen rain.

The scale of damage and loss is unimaginable.

Climate change is real, not “a hoax.”

Donald Trump must treat this like the existential crisis it is. pic.twitter.com/TDyZZEPmoI

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 8, 2025

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Zero planning, not properly clearing brush and dead wood yearly, not allowing for controlled burns, and cutting the budgets for your fire services and not allowing insurance companies in the market to raise rates to stabilize their risk, and then starting a new insurance program that is insolvent. All contributed 99.999999% to this issue. Climate change has a minimal impact.

Simply put, California has not prepared for potential disasters. There are a lot of hands that are culpable in this being the disaster it is. It starts in Sacramento and goes to LA. The return on taxes that California residents get from state government is minimal.

They dont have simple things that have worked forever in the volunteer world - 2500+ gallon tankers and starting a tanker shuttle for water supply.

Again, the winds the other night made every thing that you could do to control a fire impossible to execute any plan. But there was a clear lack of planning for a wildfire in hurricane forced winds and how to organize to take a stand when you can.

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Your post is the only one that talks about the neglect California has shown to mitigate this disaster!

Yes, the conditions the other night were horrible for this event. Yes, people, of all ilk have lost significantly. Yes, I hate to see anyone lose like this, regardless of their race, political position, or whatever. It's awful! No one should wish this on anybody. It's an absolute disaster!

Now, California needs to stop this disaster, however, they can! It has to stop! Smart people need to get together and end these fires with as little more damage as possible.

When done, I hope the people of California recognize the failures that contributed to this disaster. Hopefully, Climate Change is not in the narrative! This disaster is the real man made disaster. This was and is a lack of WILL by the government to mitigate this type of disaster. They need to realize they live in a desert and start planning for this type of event.

Unfortunately, Climate Change will be the cause, according to them. We already see it happening. For that, because of their STUPIDITY, I hope the Federal Government doesn't spend one more penny in support. It's time for California to grow up and fix their ways.

They can fix their ways if they have the WILL!! Pray for them!!

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Oh, it's going to be global warming. I've seen it several times already. Can't blame the democrats who run California.

If true, this is HUUUUUGE!!

IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING: THE CORPORATION OF CANADA IS OWNED BY THE UNITED STATES CORPORATION.

@ ancil30056 pic.twitter.com/X2G0jxVxOK

— Jasper Truth (@jasper_truth) January 8, 2025

Say it loud for the people in the back.

Over the next few weeks you’re going to hear Governor Gavin Newsom, Mayor Karen Bass, and the Democratic Party tell you that there’s nothing that could have been done to prevent the fires from destroying Los Angeles.

Those will be lies. They could have prevented them. Governor… pic.twitter.com/zmVuZXAl3W

— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) January 9, 2025

hokiewolf said:

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I watched a lot of NBC 4 coverage. What I saw was a response with a lot of urban equipment - Class A engines and ladders that don't have pumps. I'm sure LA City and LA County dumped all the houses just to get the manpower. Where my concern is that the more affective Wildland Urban Interface vehicles that are more capable did not appear to be in the initial alarm or the other alarms for these fires until much later.

The reliance on the water system as your only source of water is a poor planning choice. There are reservoirs around these fires, there are swimming pools. Draft that water into portable fold-a-tanks and have tankers draft water from there and run a tanker shuttle to strategic areas to get the water where it is needed. It seems to me that this apparatus doesn't exist in the fleet, or within the mutual aid departments who have co tracts to provide mutual aid to LA City and LA County.

I'm calling Western Nevada FDs and telling them to haul ass to LA with their 3500 gallon engine and tankers for support. They've got these huge war wagons to fight fires in the rural desert where there are no water sources.

I would get CAL FIRE staged and ready to go, I would ask the Federal Govt and FEMA to declare an emergency and get Hot Shot crews to La and staged.

Then, when the winds die down, you have all the various different resources, including helicopters and airplanes to start to contain the two 15000 acres plus fires.

It does not appear, to my eye watching coverage and listening to the spokespeople from LA City FD and LA County that this happened

Absolutely prescribed burns and vegetation clearing DID NOT HAPPEN. Prescribed burns didn't happen because it would violate air quality laws in California. Vegitation clearing is supposed to be done by the property owner yearly but there is lax oversight because the city and county don't have the money or the resources to verify the citizens are doing their job to protect their property.

Finally it is inexcusable for California to not allow a rate hike for State Farm to reduce their risk portfolio so that they could survive and pay out a catastrophic fire event. So they exited the market. Instead, California decided they were going to do it, and that program is insolvent.

Don't get me started with the Mayor and her press conference. She demonstrated she has no idea what is happening or what she is doing. Same with Newsome, my man is out here blaming climate change and Trump while spending money on various progressive projects and regulations that continue to make California more unaffordable and also now more unsafe.

If you are going to beat the climate change drum for the sole reason that these wildfires were so devistating, then why was the government - state and local caught so flat footed with their response??

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If only they had reached out to you to act as their command center this would be going so much better! Lol, Jesus, give me a break. Consider the possibility that you don't in fact know better than California how to manage their extremely complicated wildfire situation. You definitely have one foot in the right wing cartoon world where Californians are just ineptly bumbling around looking for ways to make their wildfires worse.

Like I said, why the fu** do you guys always do this? Do lefties ever turn disasters in red states into an excuse to immediately score political points over the low tax/low infrastructure non-existent state responses that just boo-hoo that FEMA isn't helping fast enough?