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hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Lol. Revenues



Come on Hokie, you are better than this.

What do the letters IRS stand for?

Prefect! Lets not act like this is anything but transferring money from private businesses and US citizens to the federal government via tax.

For some reason, Republicans have given up on the idea that private business is more efficient than the federal government.

But to sit here and pretend tariffs are not a tax increase, whether on consumers or businesses is getting old.

You keep saying this but I have not seen anyone claim differently. Maybe you have since you spend so much time talking about it.

Huh? People here keep celebrating these turrible tariff deals that aren't deals at all.

Prolly celebrating the income that comes with them for the time being u til the deals are reached.

tariffs reduce the GDP growth, not increase it.

Was speaking of revenue for the Treasury, not GDP. Supposedly, there was a historic surplus this past quarter, though I don't think that term is defined well enough to have meaning, in this instance. But that's what they'd be celebrating.

The GDP growth is because of all the inventory stock up on the 1st quarter.

Honest question are you just trolling? I would understand seeing some of the names you are called.

I will preface this by saying there are lots of variables that go into our GDP calculation.

But hokie, you first say that tariffs reduce the GDP growth, but then say GDP grew in the second quarter due to reduced imports, when one of the main things tariffs do is to reduce imports.

I'm not trolling, it's certainly a thought topic to digest all the nuances. I think, that tariffs haven't hit GDP yet. I think that will be in a future quarter.

There are other countries offsets too from the BBB that help businesses recover from tariff impact. I like all of those things - changing a lot of rules to allow for better growth, but they are going to be offset by tariffs.

The basic point I'm trying g to make, is that the Administration on one hand wants foreign investment and growth, on the other had, they are limiting growth with tariffs.

The GDP needs to grow at a higher rate than what has happened in the last couple years to offset the deficit. That is where my concern lies.

Hope that makes sense.

Maria Bartiromo announced 3.0% growth in GDP this morning. Disappointed?
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Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Lol. Revenues



Come on Hokie, you are better than this.

What do the letters IRS stand for?

Prefect! Lets not act like this is anything but transferring money from private businesses and US citizens to the federal government via tax.

For some reason, Republicans have given up on the idea that private business is more efficient than the federal government.

But to sit here and pretend tariffs are not a tax increase, whether on consumers or businesses is getting old.

You keep saying this but I have not seen anyone claim differently. Maybe you have since you spend so much time talking about it.

Huh? People here keep celebrating these turrible tariff deals that aren't deals at all.

Prolly celebrating the income that comes with them for the time being u til the deals are reached.

tariffs reduce the GDP growth, not increase it.

Was speaking of revenue for the Treasury, not GDP. Supposedly, there was a historic surplus this past quarter, though I don't think that term is defined well enough to have meaning, in this instance. But that's what they'd be celebrating.

The GDP growth is because of all the inventory stock up on the 1st quarter.

Honest question are you just trolling? I would understand seeing some of the names you are called.

I will preface this by saying there are lots of variables that go into our GDP calculation.

But hokie, you first say that tariffs reduce the GDP growth, but then say GDP grew in the second quarter due to reduced imports, when one of the main things tariffs do is to reduce imports.

I'm not trolling, it's certainly a thought topic to digest all the nuances. I think, that tariffs haven't hit GDP yet. I think that will be in a future quarter.

There are other countries offsets too from the BBB that help businesses recover from tariff impact. I like all of those things - changing a lot of rules to allow for better growth, but they are going to be offset by tariffs.

The basic point I'm trying g to make, is that the Administration on one hand wants foreign investment and growth, on the other had, they are limiting growth with tariffs.

The GDP needs to grow at a higher rate than what has happened in the last couple years to offset the deficit. That is where my concern lies.

Hope that makes sense.

Maria Bartiromo announced 3.0% growth in GDP this morning. Disappointed?
No, as I stated above, the inventory stock up is the main reason for the GDP growth this quarter. It's also the reason why it was negative last quarter.

I want the economy to grow, but there are policies that I disagree with that prevent the faucet from really turning on.
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A lot of Democrat shenanigans in Texas.
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Werewolf said:

A lot of Democrat shenanigans in Texas.


Bring it on, Texas! California, Illinois, New York and Maryland have a little surprise coming for you in response.

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SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A lot of Democrat shenanigans in Texas.


Bring it on, Texas! California, Illinois, New York and Maryland have a little surprise coming for you in response.



The national election voter rolls will be cleaned up before 2026. You'll cry that your 'poor Democrat voters' cannot get off work for a new verified voter ID. The reality is that most of the 'poor Democrat voters' are sponging off the govt. Election rigging is soon to be a thing of the past.......national elections. Sure, California will have a parallel election and Smartmatics and Dominion will count em' well..........election rigging will be obvious.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A lot of Democrat shenanigans in Texas.


Bring it on, Texas! California, Illinois, New York and Maryland have a little surprise coming for you in response.


Are you implying that the governors of California and New York are prepared to break their state laws?
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El Lobo Loco said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A lot of Democrat shenanigans in Texas.


Bring it on, Texas! California, Illinois, New York and Maryland have a little surprise coming for you in response.



Are you implying that the governors of California and New York are prepared to break their state laws?

A state will be able to run its own election. The Trump EO's will be limited to national elections. I understand there is a 2nd EO coming in Sept Oct that will tighten things up more.........but possibly add a national election holiday. I also know there is a debate internal to the Trump team as to whether its one day to vote or two. We can easily do it in a day...........all votes will be hand counted at the precinct and precincts will be limited to very small size......

EDIT: to add, how obvious will it be for a State to run a 2nd parallel election and the results turn up dramatically different. There will have to be some explaining ........to say the least.

People will be screaming for Trump's new EO voter/election system after the evidence of the 2020 plus 2016, 2022, 2024 and even earlier than 2016 is revealed.
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From a 40,000-ft view, "the biggest consumer in the world really dictates the terms" explains it all.
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El Lobo Loco said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A lot of Democrat shenanigans in Texas.


Bring it on, Texas! California, Illinois, New York and Maryland have a little surprise coming for you in response.



Are you implying that the governors of California and New York are prepared to break their state laws?

Nope, they're going to change their laws. Or maybe they'll just act like Trump and treat their laws as suggestions for suckers. Isn't that how we govern now?
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Two days after the 2016 election; Clapper, Brennan and Co were quick to respond.

Tweet, tweet, tweet, birds sing.
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Here is a story and some documents of a whistleblower who has come forward about the Russian Collusion hoax. This whistleblower was threatened by superiors about reporting what everyone knows now about the fake hoax. The Obama administration was corrupt to the core and this is just more evidence of that.

"But Trump did this and Trump did that, blah, blah, blah, blah. Staring them right in the face and they will deny. There are traitors in your government and Helen Keller and Ray Charles could see that with the evidence, but not the resident leftists on this board.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/whistleblowers/russia-collusion-hoax-whistleblower-threatened-over-reporting
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Werewolf
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We have a few Helen Keller's here in the WC, don't we.

Here's another deliverer of the "truth" stepping forward for the Helen Keller's here?

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hokiewolf
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Werewolf said:



They got rid of CO2 being a pollutant. This is a good thing
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NY Post articles on fake Russia collusion.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/31/us-news/hillary-clinton-approved-plan-hatched-by-campaign-aides-to-smear-trump-with-russia-collusion-declassified-docs/

https://nypost.com/2025/07/30/us-news/trump-russia-probe-whistleblower-pressured-by-obama-intel-officials-to-sign-off-of-2016-election-report-i-need-you-to-say-you-agree/

Burn bags found, where one included the classified Annex.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/30/us-news/fbi-chief-kash-patel-finds-burn-bags-of-trump-russia-documents-in-secret-room/
Werewolf
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Ozempic is essentially a poison.
Werewolf
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A distraction from #TREASON, I'll play for another day.
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#WINNING and #WINNING! #Sieve, no need for you to leave the bench, pal. Maybe scrap time late in the 4th qtr........you can touch the ball, how about that?

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There may be an interim step, but it's going to military tribunals. Mark it down.
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Here is a 20 minute interview of Tulsi Gabbard with Glenn Beck. I believe it was recorded last night before the information dropped this morning. I am sure that Tulsi and I don't agree on everything, but there is no denying that this woman is a True Patriot and has served this country for over 20 years as an officer in the military. She is doing a fantastic job.

There might be a few quick ads in the video, but they are only for 5 seconds and then you can skip.

https://rumble.com/v6wy0ic--tulsi-gabbards-message-you-need-to-hear-.html
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Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Lol. Revenues



Come on Hokie, you are better than this.

What do the letters IRS stand for?

Prefect! Lets not act like this is anything but transferring money from private businesses and US citizens to the federal government via tax.

For some reason, Republicans have given up on the idea that private business is more efficient than the federal government.

But to sit here and pretend tariffs are not a tax increase, whether on consumers or businesses is getting old.

You keep saying this but I have not seen anyone claim differently. Maybe you have since you spend so much time talking about it.

Huh? People here keep celebrating these turrible tariff deals that aren't deals at all.

Prolly celebrating the income that comes with them for the time being u til the deals are reached.

tariffs reduce the GDP growth, not increase it.

Was speaking of revenue for the Treasury, not GDP. Supposedly, there was a historic surplus this past quarter, though I don't think that term is defined well enough to have meaning, in this instance. But that's what they'd be celebrating.

The merits of that "surplus" analysis notwithstanding, how is that likely mythical "surplus" helping non-wealthy Americans?

What specifically are we celebrating?

That the mythical surplus inadequately offsets the tax breaks for the rich and resultant deficit increase from the bloated BBB?


Those tax breaks for the rich are also benefiting rich people on the left too.

You're doing pretty well for yourself, if I had to guess. Do you pay more than required for taxes? If not, why? This seems to be a big deal with you. Are you paying your fair share?
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Werewolf said:




Good
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It's Hammer Time!
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

Lol. Revenues



Come on Hokie, you are better than this.

What do the letters IRS stand for?

Prefect! Lets not act like this is anything but transferring money from private businesses and US citizens to the federal government via tax.

For some reason, Republicans have given up on the idea that private business is more efficient than the federal government.

But to sit here and pretend tariffs are not a tax increase, whether on consumers or businesses is getting old.

You keep saying this but I have not seen anyone claim differently. Maybe you have since you spend so much time talking about it.

Huh? People here keep celebrating these turrible tariff deals that aren't deals at all.

Prolly celebrating the income that comes with them for the time being u til the deals are reached.

tariffs reduce the GDP growth, not increase it.

Was speaking of revenue for the Treasury, not GDP. Supposedly, there was a historic surplus this past quarter, though I don't think that term is defined well enough to have meaning, in this instance. But that's what they'd be celebrating.

The merits of that "surplus" analysis notwithstanding, how is that likely mythical "surplus" helping non-wealthy Americans?

What specifically are we celebrating?

That the mythical surplus inadequately offsets the tax breaks for the rich and resultant deficit increase from the bloated BBB?


Those tax breaks for the rich are also benefiting rich people on the left too.

You're doing pretty well for yourself, if I had to guess. Do you pay more than required for taxes? If not, why? This seems to be a big deal with you. Are you paying your fair share?


You keep focusing on the rich/upper 10%/whatever you want to call those that are doing fairly well. I have zero issue with capitalism creating wealth. I'm a business owner. That would be a crazy stance for me to take.

Focus on the other 90% of America though.

The issue that you keep ignoring is, why are we ballooning the deficit seemingly with the express purpose of helping the top-10% of earners/wealth-havers, with the BBB being net-neutral at best for the 90% of America that needs more help or relief as they try to survive/elevate/get ahead?

What do tariffs or the BBB do for the middle class, working poor, and poor in this country such that they should be celebrating the Treasury allegedly being more flush, or Trump negotiating tariff deals with our trade partners?

How does any of that impact the middle class, working poor, or those in poverty in this country?
hokiewolf
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Filling the swamp with different creatures

How Trump Let $1 Trillion Worth of Imports Escape His Tariff Hammer

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-07-31/trump-tariff-exclusions-how-1-trillion-of-imports-got-off-the-hook
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Good read by Turley on the Russia collusion "trick".

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jonathan-turley-dems-pulled-greatest-political-con-job-ever-americans-its-finally-unraveling

Funny, we haven't seen any responses here from the left regarding all the new information coming out. Guess they haven't gotten the talking points yet from their trusted media. You know, the media that pushed a complete fabrication as fact.
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Here is a 20 minute interview of Tulsi Gabbard with Glenn Beck. I believe it was recorded last night before the information dropped this morning. I am sure that Tulsi and I don't agree on everything, but there is no denying that this woman is a True Patriot and has served this country for over 20 years as an officer in the military. She is doing a fantastic job.

There might be a few quick ads in the video, but they are only for 5 seconds and then you can skip.

https://rumble.com/v6wy0ic--tulsi-gabbards-message-you-need-to-hear-.html

The Trump admin has been TRANSPARENTLY dredging up everything they can come up with to get you to stop asking about Epstein. Miraculously they discovered these other files about Dems that they are able to release right now! Can you believe it?!

Honest question: Can you guys really not see that you're being led around by the nose? Or are you just in on the con?
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packofwolves said:

Good read by Turley on the Russia collusion "trick".

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jonathan-turley-dems-pulled-greatest-political-con-job-ever-americans-its-finally-unraveling

Funny, we haven't seen any responses here from the left regarding all the new information coming out. Guess they haven't gotten the talking points yet from their trusted media. You know, the media that pushed a complete fabrication as fact.

You should have waited 3 more minutes.

(see above)
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Was doing my morning reading and came across this Tweet that blew my mind



I knew Dems were struggling with young men, but I guess I underestimated how badly they are struggling with young men.

Who knows if this number is on target….pretty alarming for Dems if it's ballpark though. Pure speculation, but I'm guessing they want to be young men in a world that's telling them it's not OK to be young men.
CALS grad
Oldsouljer
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Werewolf said:



Well, no one can say that Dems aren't faithfully maintaining a treasonous tradition dating back to 1861.
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Werewolf
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Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:



Well, no one can say that Dems aren't faithfully maintaining a treasonous tradition dating back to 1861.

They have owned corruption since inception. Republicans freed the slaves as I'm sure you know..
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"The issue that you keep ignoring is, why are we ballooning the deficit seemingly with the express purpose of helping the top-10% of earners/wealth-havers, with the BBB being net-neutral at best for the 90% of America that needs more help or relief as they try to survive/elevate/get ahead?"

1. A Democrat worrying about deficit and debt, LMAO.
2. Upper tax bracket did not change.

#Sieve, you need a cap with the words TRAITOR across the front. The words "I support TREASON and SEDITION" wrapped around the back.
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