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BigBarryWood said:

The only reason he changed his border policy was because he knew he couldn't win with it. He implemented exactly what he wanted for the first three years. Had nothing to do with acting late. I find it hard to believe you believe what you posted.
I get it that you guys live in cartoon Fox News world so will probably never accept this, but the conspiracy fantasies that Biden wanted to flood OMG 30 million illegals (it was a tiny fraction of that) into the country (to eventually vote Republican probably) is dumb.

Maybe it would help to print this chart out and tape it to your bathroom mirror to stare at for a few weeks. Illegal immigration is 100% a function of labor demand. Full stop! End of conspiracy! That's it!

The pandemic caused a massive labor shortage. Guess what happened next? Even during the last year of Trump, as you can see on the chart... border encounters also increased massively. Was Trump in on the conspiracy?

See? Look at it again. Anytime that little green line is above the red one you have a worker shortage, and just like heroin finds its way into prison, workers will find a way in to fill the jobs.

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Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
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Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
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Civilized said:

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TheStorm said:

I just wanted to check in to see if hokie had posted anything about the Garner kidnappers being here illegally...
you continue to distort severely my opinion on the subject.


Okay. What is your opinion?
We shouldn't sacrifice due process for expediency. We shouldn't also be sending people to foreign prisons unless we are 100% sure they belong there. That evidence needs to be part of that due process. Otherwise we are no longer a country of individual freedoms.

Additionally, how about we stop musing about sending US citizens to foreign prisons? Because that gets political real damn quick.

What if AOC gets elected as President and decides that J6 people weren't punished enough and has them arrested and sent to foreign prisons? I'm sure a portion of this country would welcome that outcome without thinking of the sacrifice to individual freedom too.


I don't care about due process for illegals and gang members. I care about AMERICANS. I don't know how much traveling you've done but you should try to enter any number of S. American countries illegally. It might just be the eye opener you need.

Sorry bud, the Constitution doesn't care that you don't care about due process.

If you want to ignore the Fifth and Fourteenth, change the Constitution.


You don't care about the Constitution no more than the man on the moon. Liberals hate the Constitution and that time period in American history. This is simply GET TRUMP.



Umm...no.

How is requiring that Trump follow laws "getting Trump?"

Sorry, Trump has to abide by the Constitution.

Caring about the Constitution isn't some abstract idea; it's basically saying you care about laws.

Yes,, I think it's very important that we, including and especially the President, abide by laws (and rules, and norms) and get held accountable by the courts if we don't.

It's super weird that you don't think the President should have to follow laws or that you'd object to courts telling him so.


Whatever Civ. You didn't care one bit about laws when millions of illegals flooded across the border. What changed?

Did you miss me saying on here for years Biden was too slow to act on the border, and that he/the left paid the ultimate electoral price for it? (Which doesn't address the culpability of too many Republican congressmen also being derelict in their duties on the topic, but whatever).

But you keep conflating bad policy or being slow to act (Biden) with illegality (Trump).

Biden's pre-Executive Order border policy wasn't illegal. It was just bad policy. Trump admin's robbing people in America of their constitutional due process rights is illegal.

See the difference?

Whether you do or not, fortunately the courts obviously do.

You don't combat bad policy by breaking the law under the guise of fixing the problem or the end justifying the means.


"Trump admin's robbing people in America of their constitutional due process rights is illegal"

^Clever way for you to word that nonsense. These are NOT AMERICANS. They are ILLEGALS. I don't give a * about their constitutional rights. You don't either but you do you.
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SmaptyWolf said:

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Werewolf said:

#Gobbler, why are liberals like you mad?



But Smapty says "economic calamity" is on the way and you'll be sorry you ever voted for President Trump. YOU WILL SEE!11
Lol, remember that time during all of Biden's term where we had just about the best jobs numbers possible? So weird, I don't remember you cherry picking that one number (or basically every other number that was great outside of inflation) and cheering.

Unfortunately for you the MAGA reality distortion machine will eventually smash into actual reality. When the f'ing president is on TV telling you that little Sally will have to live with 2 dolls instead of 30 you might be heading into a sh**storm.

Anyhoo, you will see.


Lol
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What's so funny is that he doesn't realize how stupid his doll narrative.is. I presume we are to return to zero tariffs so that young girls can have 30 dolls and not limited to 2. #PricelessStupidity
Oldsouljer
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hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
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Oldsouljer
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hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
I don't even know what that means.
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
I don't even know what that means.
how exactly has the relationship deteriorated?
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SmaptyWolf
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
Do you guys ever just stop once in a while and think to yourselves, "Wow, I've completely lost my f'ing mind"?

Lol, Jesus.
Werewolf
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nappy, gobbler, sieve, want doge to be stopped, now!

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Werewolf said:

nappy, gobbler, sieve, want doge to be stopped, now!




but rest assured, nappy, gobbler and sieve are strict constitutionalist. The letter of the law must be followed! These are three highly principal Wolf packers.

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SmaptyWolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
Do you guys ever just stop once in a while and think to yourselves, "Wow, I've completely lost my f'ing mind"?

Lol, Jesus.

It's a completely fabricated up-is-down reality crafted to justify the whims of a President that ignores laws and courts and has no ethical or intellectual compass and that surrounds himself with ill-prepared and ill-equipped yes-men and a party that's been co-opted by a cult of personality that demands their fealty more akin to North Korea than a Western democracy.

But Canada is totalitarian.

Positively wild.
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Poor Sieve seems to be suffering, LOL.
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Sieve claims the Democrats were "slow to act"....LMAO

She's not slow to act here, u r a trip Sieve.

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LOL.
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For #daSheeple

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hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
I don't even know what that means.
how exactly has the relationship deteriorated?
Canada under Trudeau began to go in a totalitarian direction which is antithetical to American values. Of course, even before that, they've been a mooch, and a security risk for us with their Chinese bromance and their intake of foreign migrants possessing hostility to the United States.
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
I don't even know what that means.
how exactly has the relationship deteriorated?
Canada under Trudeau began to go in a totalitarian direction which is antithetical to American values. Of course, even before that, they've been a mooch, and a security risk for us with their Chinese bromance and their intake of foreign migrants possessing hostility to the United States.

They began to go in a totalitarian direction, as evidenced by what exactly?
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
I don't even know what that means.
how exactly has the relationship deteriorated?
Canada under Trudeau began to go in a totalitarian direction which is antithetical to American values. Of course, even before that, they've been a mooch, and a security risk for us with their Chinese bromance and their intake of foreign migrants possessing hostility to the United States.
so all the stuff that actually effects the relationship with the US, such as trade, gas and oil, foreign policy, etc. hasn't changed. But because you don't like a Prime Minister all of a sudden they're the enemy? Cool stuff
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hokiewolf
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You guys remember when the conservative principle was to let the free market pick winners and losers and owning a small business was part of the American Dream? I guess that's a RINO principle now

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Elections are being stolen in Canada just like here and another 70 countries. Its people - the citizens - are friend to America. It's the govt that is not. There's more than a bromance with China too, stay tuned.
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MORGAN: Canada is broken

Cory Morgan
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Published on:
04 May 2025, 8:30 am

If nothing else positive has come from the federal election, it's that it awakened Westerners to the fact that they can never win within the current system. Canada was designed with a system that centralizes political power while outlying provinces feed the middle. Even when conservative parties enjoy short periods in power, they don't dare to try to change the system, lest central Canadian voters send them into the political wilderness.

The Trudeau government was the worst Canada has endured in generations. The Liberals lurched from scandal to controversy as their ineptitude doubled the national debt while the GDP per capita plummeted.
Housing prices went out of reach for young Canadians while healthcare became increasingly inaccessible due to unfettered, mass immigration policies. Oil and gas resources were shut in through regulations, thus reducing employment, raising energy costs, and making Canada almost entirely dependent upon the USA for exports.

Authoritarianism reigned when shocking actions were taken against peaceful protesters in Ottawa, while a blind eye was turned to an ongoing campaign of Hamas supporters targeting Jewish communities on the streets.
Bills were crafted to control media and online speech while efforts were made to cover up decades of Chinese Communist Party interference and activity within Canada. The opioid epidemic exploded, as hard drugs were legalized, and thousands of Canadians succumbed to overdoses. Meanwhile, violent criminals victimized Canadians repeatedly while on bail. Trudeau chronically embarrassed the nation overseas, as he pursued woke social justice causes while the economy languished.

Nobody cared about the alleged right of a transgendered man to compete in sports against girls, yet such issues dominated the news scroll under Trudeau's guidance.
A Privy Council report predicted Canada would soon sink into a dystopian world where citizens are forced to hunt and gather to eat, as a wealth divide puts food and housing out of reach under continued Liberal policies.

Canadians finally appeared to sit up and pay attention. Trudeau's popularity plummeted so low that his party finally turned upon him and pushed him grudgingly from power. The nation looked ready to apply a democratic reset as the Conservative were poised to win a supermajority in parliament.

Then the Liberals rushed a leadership race and crowned Mark Carney as their leader.
Despite maintaining the same team and policy set as Trudeau, the leadership swap was enough for Eastern Canadians. They felt that all the Liberal party needed was a change at the helm and they rewarded the Liberals with an increased seat count in a general election. They will probably give Carney a majority at the next possible opportunity.

Western Canada will continue to be mercilessly milked through an imbalanced equalization and fiscal transfer system while underrepresented in both the House of Commons and the Senate. The energy industry will remain confined as capital investment dries up, due to Carney's aversion to pipelines and plans to pander to Quebec.

The West is screwed and will continue to be.

Until the West heads for the door.
The escape hatch exists, and it's called the Clarity Act. The act was designed to be applied to the Quebec independence movement, but now it appears to have offered Alberta and Saskatchewan the path to escape the abusive relationship they endure under the federation.

A clear 'yes' vote in a provincial referendum on independence obliges the federal government to negotiate the secession of a province voting to go. It's democratic, it's reasonable and it's the only option left for the West.
A 'yes' vote isn't a rejection of Canadians. It's a rejection of their system. It's a means to an end and a way to start the ball rolling on true systemic change. Canada may not end after such a vote, but the contract that binds it would. Either the Western provinces would remain fully independent, or they may negotiate into a new federation that doesn't neglect provincial rights and abilities. Either outcome is superior to the status quo.
Preston Manning shunted the Western independence movement at the end of the 1980s with the Reform Party and the rallying call of "the West wants in."

The Reform Party failed and faded, and the West is no better off. Even Manning is now hinting that independence is the option the West must pursue now.

There will be no more playing within a rigged game.

Canada is broken and the West wants out.
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BigBarryWood said:

The only reason he changed his border policy was because he knew he couldn't win with it. He implemented exactly what he wanted for the first three years. Had nothing to do with acting late. I find it hard to believe you believe what you posted.

What's your point? Politicians should listen to their constituency as much as they listen to their own intuition, and Americans on both sides of the aisle were clearly saying they wanted action on immigration.

The Biden administration finally reacted accordingly, first by spearheading the bipartisan bill and then by implementing the EO, albeit too late for them and their party's electoral outcomes to change.

That's exactly the way politics should work. Politicians' interests are fairly aligned with their constituents since they often have to win re-election. They have to be responsive to their constituents. Immigration was a problem that Americans said they wanted addressed. Biden (and Congress) acted as a result, albeit too slowly, and Congressional Republicans wilted under the pressure from Trump to not improve the issue prior to November.
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LMAO, my friend. You're in the matrix, of the matrix, of the matrix. You're stuck for eternity.
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Check out the "equalization payments" to Quebec versus that to Alberta and BC. Canada is a highly centralized government, and a corrupted govt.

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Werewolf said:

Elections are being stolen in Canada just like here and another 70 countries. Its people - the citizens - are friend to America. It's the govt that is not. There's more than a bromance with China too, stay tuned.
I hate to break it to you, but that's zero examples of real tangible things that have harmed the US. I'm going to ignore your conspiracies of election stealing. 71 countries having their elections stolen is comical.
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Werewolf
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LOL, you didn't listen w jabs, and certainly not here too. You'll learn soon enough if u can allow yourself to. You'll be wrong once again. #Sheeple like you are a danger to a republic.
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hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

The one province we definitely want as the 51st state.

I suppose so, but I'd prefer the prairie provinces come together to create their own new nation with the full support and best wishes of the U.S….would be nice to have a friendly nation on our borders.
we do have a friendly nation, it's called Canada. It's been there for a while and has been an ally to the US for many decades.
That relationship has gone steadily south as Canada's governance has gone steadily totalitarian.
lol. I'd love to hear an example of this theory that doesn't involve the recent trade war.
I don't even know what that means.
how exactly has the relationship deteriorated?
Canada under Trudeau began to go in a totalitarian direction which is antithetical to American values. Of course, even before that, they've been a mooch, and a security risk for us with their Chinese bromance and their intake of foreign migrants possessing hostility to the United States.
so all the stuff that actually effects the relationship with the US, such as trade, gas and oil, foreign policy, etc. hasn't changed. But because you don't like a Prime Minister all of a sudden they're the enemy? Cool stuff
That's a convenient interpretation on your part, but no.
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Transitioning back to a dude? #Sieve will eat this up, he'll love it, bring on the #FIREHOSE.
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

Elections are being stolen in Canada just like here and another 70 countries. Its people - the citizens - are friend to America. It's the govt that is not. There's more than a bromance with China too, stay tuned.
I hate to break it to you, but that's zero examples of real tangible things that have harmed the US. I'm going to ignore your conspiracies of election stealing. 71 countries having their elections stolen is comical.


You have never spent much time in Africa have you?
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

Elections are being stolen in Canada just like here and another 70 countries. Its people - the citizens - are friend to America. It's the govt that is not. There's more than a bromance with China too, stay tuned.
I hate to break it to you, but that's zero examples of real tangible things that have harmed the US. I'm going to ignore your conspiracies of election stealing. 71 countries having their elections stolen is comical.


You have never spent much time in Africa have you?
what country in Africa has a Declaration of Independence and a Constitution and is a Federal Republic?
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