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TheStorm
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:




I have never seen a political party work so hard against a President. The democrats offer absolutely nothing but resistance.


Do y'all ever research anything?

With Stephen Miller being a demonstrated lying xenophobic asshat, aren't you inclined to apply at least a little critical thought to anything that he's so eagerly amplifying?

Miller being downright horny over the opportunity to run down a brown Muslim judge named "Mustafa" notwithstanding, Kasubhai isn't "foreign-born" unless somehow Los Angeles is a different country. He was born in LA and went to Berkeley and University of Oregon.

And he's not "blocking the Trump Administration from requiring Democrat-run states to remove non-citizens from SNAP." His ruling doesn't change that requirement at all.

He's simply not allowing the Trump Administration to ignore the 120-day compliance grace period before fining allegedly non-compliant states millions of dollars.

The Trump Administration was trying to back-date the start of the grace period months prior to final guidance being issued (which occurred on December 10). Kasubhai is simply saying the 120-day grace period to implement changes begins on the day the Administration issued final guidance, which was December 10. States therefore have until April 9 to be in compliance.

Civ, you know two different things can be true at the same time. Now, I don't know the details of this ruling and really don't want to spend time learning about it. A couple of thoughts:

  • So, we do have non-citizens receiving unlawful benefits?
  • Why would there be a 120 day moratorium of an illegal distribution of services that some say don't exist?
  • Miller's comments weren't wrong. Perhaps you don't like them; however, is he really amplifying a sentiment that doesn't have support?
Civ, your comments are exactly why people say you have TDS. I think you could have gotten your point across (whatever it is) without being so blatantly obvious with your...


Why should something that isn't supposed to be happening and was never supposed to be happening to begin with, need to continue for another 120 days before it gets stopped?

It amounts to nothing more than allowing illegals to continue stealing from our taxpayers "for free" for another 120 days.

What are we even doing here? These Democrat judges are completely ****ed up and just make **** up as they go along now...
packgrad
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TheStorm said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:




I have never seen a political party work so hard against a President. The democrats offer absolutely nothing but resistance.


Do y'all ever research anything?

With Stephen Miller being a demonstrated lying xenophobic asshat, aren't you inclined to apply at least a little critical thought to anything that he's so eagerly amplifying?

Miller being downright horny over the opportunity to run down a brown Muslim judge named "Mustafa" notwithstanding, Kasubhai isn't "foreign-born" unless somehow Los Angeles is a different country. He was born in LA and went to Berkeley and University of Oregon.

And he's not "blocking the Trump Administration from requiring Democrat-run states to remove non-citizens from SNAP." His ruling doesn't change that requirement at all.

He's simply not allowing the Trump Administration to ignore the 120-day compliance grace period before fining allegedly non-compliant states millions of dollars.

The Trump Administration was trying to back-date the start of the grace period months prior to final guidance being issued (which occurred on December 10). Kasubhai is simply saying the 120-day grace period to implement changes begins on the day the Administration issued final guidance, which was December 10. States therefore have until April 9 to be in compliance.

Civ, you know two different things can be true at the same time. Now, I don't know the details of this ruling and really don't want to spend time learning about it. A couple of thoughts:

  • So, we do have non-citizens receiving unlawful benefits?
  • Why would there be a 120 day moratorium of an illegal distribution of services that some say don't exist?
  • Miller's comments weren't wrong. Perhaps you don't like them; however, is he really amplifying a sentiment that doesn't have support?
Civ, your comments are exactly why people say you have TDS. I think you could have gotten your point across (whatever it is) without being so blatantly obvious with your...


Why should something that isn't supposed to be happening and was never supposed to be happening need to continue for another 120 days before it gets stopped?

It amounts to nothing more than allowing illegals to continue stealing from our taxpayers "for free" for another 120 days.

What are we even doing here? These Democrat judges are completely ****ed up and just make **** up as they go along now...


Civ used to tell us they weren't getting benefits. They were paying taxes and a net positive. Funny how he has no comment on that now, and uses the term "lying ass hat". Quality duplicity from civocrite
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FBI repeatedly told the DOJ that there was no probably cause to raid Mar-a-Lago
Here is the story from John Solomon and below that will be a link to John Solomon talking with Steve Bannon about it yesterday.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/6abombshell-fbi-memos-show-agents-didnt-believe-doj-had-probable

https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonne/posts/115730151448252284
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I would think having absolute proof of genocide in China would be helpful in the defense of the US. Besides that point, if anyone qualifies for political asylum, it's this guy.

But hey, he did come into the country illegally so hopefully we can trade his impending death for some dope soybean deals for American farmers.

Obviously I'm being sarcastic in that last paragraph. However I do not understand the lack of any empathy on here.
Civilized
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:




I have never seen a political party work so hard against a President. The democrats offer absolutely nothing but resistance.


Do y'all ever research anything?

With Stephen Miller being a demonstrated lying xenophobic asshat, aren't you inclined to apply at least a little critical thought to anything that he's so eagerly amplifying?

Miller being downright horny over the opportunity to run down a brown Muslim judge named "Mustafa" notwithstanding, Kasubhai isn't "foreign-born" unless somehow Los Angeles is a different country. He was born in LA and went to Berkeley and University of Oregon.

And he's not "blocking the Trump Administration from requiring Democrat-run states to remove non-citizens from SNAP." His ruling doesn't change that requirement at all.

He's simply not allowing the Trump Administration to ignore the 120-day compliance grace period before fining allegedly non-compliant states millions of dollars.

The Trump Administration was trying to back-date the start of the grace period months prior to final guidance being issued (which occurred on December 10). Kasubhai is simply saying the 120-day grace period to implement changes begins on the day the Administration issued final guidance, which was December 10. States therefore have until April 9 to be in compliance.

Civ, you know two different things can be true at the same time. Now, I don't know the details of this ruling and really don't want to spend time learning about it. A couple of thoughts:

  • So, we do have non-citizens receiving unlawful benefits?
  • Why would there be a 120 day moratorium of an illegal distribution of services that some say don't exist?
  • Miller's comments weren't wrong. Perhaps you don't like them; however, is he really amplifying a sentiment that doesn't have support?
Civ, your comments are exactly why people say you have TDS. I think you could have gotten your point across (whatever it is) without being so blatantly obvious with your...



LOLOL. I could say "the sky is blue" and you'd claim it's an example of TDS.

For my comments to be an example of TDS shouldn't they have to clear the bar of at least mentioning or complaining about Trump? The guy I bagged on is Stephen Miller, who is a proudly xenophobic, antagonistic asshat and I don't know how that's even debatable, although I'm sure some on here will make him out to be an Eagle Scout poster boy. And no, Stephen Miller's sentiment does not have broad electoral support.

The rest of what I said is simply a recitation of the facts surrounding the situation.

You're a little twisted on the details of the SNAP distribution.

Benefits weren't previously being illegally distributed; they were being legally distributed in accordance with the law as written prior to the BBB.

The 120-day grace period to implement eligibility changes was written into the BBB and makes sense - government agencies can't shift procedures and logistics affecting millions of people at the drop of a hat.

On October 31 the USDA issued updated guidance that detailed changes (narrowing) of eligibility standards and implemented massive state penalties for non-complying states. On November 1 it announced it was also ending the 120-day grace period which would have made states immediately subject to massive fines even though guidance about the new standard had only been offered one day prior.

Sufficiently clear, final guidance was finally offered on December 10.

The court applying a reasonableness threshold to the eligibility shift implementation timing is not an unexpected or unreasonable outcome.

Above all, my point is the tweet was bull**** propaganda and of course people in here pile on and use that propaganda as more fuel in their red team/blue team battlebot episode.

packgrad
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"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?

Gulfstream4
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packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?




This should be concerning for all Americans regardless of political party.
caryking
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:




I have never seen a political party work so hard against a President. The democrats offer absolutely nothing but resistance.


Do y'all ever research anything?

With Stephen Miller being a demonstrated lying xenophobic asshat, aren't you inclined to apply at least a little critical thought to anything that he's so eagerly amplifying?

Miller being downright horny over the opportunity to run down a brown Muslim judge named "Mustafa" notwithstanding, Kasubhai isn't "foreign-born" unless somehow Los Angeles is a different country. He was born in LA and went to Berkeley and University of Oregon.

And he's not "blocking the Trump Administration from requiring Democrat-run states to remove non-citizens from SNAP." His ruling doesn't change that requirement at all.

He's simply not allowing the Trump Administration to ignore the 120-day compliance grace period before fining allegedly non-compliant states millions of dollars.

The Trump Administration was trying to back-date the start of the grace period months prior to final guidance being issued (which occurred on December 10). Kasubhai is simply saying the 120-day grace period to implement changes begins on the day the Administration issued final guidance, which was December 10. States therefore have until April 9 to be in compliance.

Civ, you know two different things can be true at the same time. Now, I don't know the details of this ruling and really don't want to spend time learning about it. A couple of thoughts:

  • So, we do have non-citizens receiving unlawful benefits?
  • Why would there be a 120 day moratorium of an illegal distribution of services that some say don't exist?
  • Miller's comments weren't wrong. Perhaps you don't like them; however, is he really amplifying a sentiment that doesn't have support?
Civ, your comments are exactly why people say you have TDS. I think you could have gotten your point across (whatever it is) without being so blatantly obvious with your...



LOLOL. I could say "the sky is blue" and you'd claim it's an example of TDS.

For my comments to be an example of TDS shouldn't they have to clear the bar of at least mentioning or complaining about Trump? The guy I bagged on is Stephen Miller, who is a proudly xenophobic, antagonistic asshat and I don't know how that's even debatable, although I'm sure some on here will make him out to be an Eagle Scout poster boy. And no, Stephen Miller's sentiment does not have broad electoral support.

The rest of what I said is simply a recitation of the facts surrounding the situation.

You're a little twisted on the details of the SNAP distribution.

Benefits weren't previously being illegally distributed; they were being legally distributed in accordance with the law as written prior to the BBB.

The 120-day grace period to implement eligibility changes was written into the BBB and makes sense - government agencies can't shift procedures and logistics affecting millions of people at the drop of a hat.

On October 31 the USDA issued updated guidance that detailed changes (narrowing) of eligibility standards and implemented massive state penalties for non-complying states. On November 1 it announced it was also ending the 120-day grace period which would have made states immediately subject to massive fines even though guidance about the new standard had only been offered one day prior.

Sufficiently clear, final guidance was finally offered on December 10.

The court applying a reasonableness threshold to the eligibility shift implementation timing is not an unexpected or unreasonable outcome.

Above all, my point is the tweet was bull**** propaganda and of course people in here pile on and use that propaganda as more fuel in their red team/blue team battlebot episode.

Civ, that's outlandish. The only reason you're referred to as having TDS is because of your comments. Specifically about Miller, you obviously don't like his way of doing things. That's perfectly fine. Now, calling the guy an Asshat, Xenophobic, and whatever else is purely an opinion couched in a way that you want true. You, nor I, know the guy and probably shouldn't make derogatory comments like yours.

Regarding the BBB having (new) guidelines was only done because people, like you, swear that no illegals get government services. Well, that's what your party says, if not you. So, basically, something that most likely is already codified had to be codified again.

The cavalier way you use reasonableness is astounding. This reminds me of so many other situations that include unlawful acts. At some point, the US government "HAS" to take serious and effective actions to rid us of the unlawfulness going on.

wait, we can't enforce unlawful people, by removing them, because it's inhumane…. We can't shoot down a boat full of drugs because… we should bring them into our country and prosecute them…. We can't, we can't, we can't…

Enough of the madness with the left and judges, like this hack (derogatory comments), that got promoted by another hack (derogatory comment). That judge was nothing more than an ambulance changer (derogatory comments).
caryking
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Gulfstream4 said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?




This should be concerning for all Americans regardless of political party.

And… you know it want.
hokiewolf
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Defending a Duke grad......
Originator of the Tony Adams Scale
caryking
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hokiewolf said:

Defending a Duke grad......

hey, I one of the few that actually pulls for Duke. I was exposed to Duke at a young age, as a former Duke Player and Wife (girlfriend at the time) babysat my brother and me.
caryking
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Gulfstream4 said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?




This should be concerning for all Americans regardless of political party.

Just watched John Solomon's TV show and if this is all true, then people need to be prosecuted! This is really some bad stuff being reported.
packgrad
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Gulfstream4 said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?




This should be concerning for all Americans regardless of political party.


Not to the mentally ill. That would require integrity.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:




I have never seen a political party work so hard against a President. The democrats offer absolutely nothing but resistance.


Do y'all ever research anything?

With Stephen Miller being a demonstrated lying xenophobic asshat, aren't you inclined to apply at least a little critical thought to anything that he's so eagerly amplifying?

Miller being downright horny over the opportunity to run down a brown Muslim judge named "Mustafa" notwithstanding, Kasubhai isn't "foreign-born" unless somehow Los Angeles is a different country. He was born in LA and went to Berkeley and University of Oregon.

And he's not "blocking the Trump Administration from requiring Democrat-run states to remove non-citizens from SNAP." His ruling doesn't change that requirement at all.

He's simply not allowing the Trump Administration to ignore the 120-day compliance grace period before fining allegedly non-compliant states millions of dollars.

The Trump Administration was trying to back-date the start of the grace period months prior to final guidance being issued (which occurred on December 10). Kasubhai is simply saying the 120-day grace period to implement changes begins on the day the Administration issued final guidance, which was December 10. States therefore have until April 9 to be in compliance.

Civ, you know two different things can be true at the same time. Now, I don't know the details of this ruling and really don't want to spend time learning about it. A couple of thoughts:

  • So, we do have non-citizens receiving unlawful benefits?
  • Why would there be a 120 day moratorium of an illegal distribution of services that some say don't exist?
  • Miller's comments weren't wrong. Perhaps you don't like them; however, is he really amplifying a sentiment that doesn't have support?
Civ, your comments are exactly why people say you have TDS. I think you could have gotten your point across (whatever it is) without being so blatantly obvious with your...



LOLOL. I could say "the sky is blue" and you'd claim it's an example of TDS.

For my comments to be an example of TDS shouldn't they have to clear the bar of at least mentioning or complaining about Trump? The guy I bagged on is Stephen Miller, who is a proudly xenophobic, antagonistic asshat and I don't know how that's even debatable, although I'm sure some on here will make him out to be an Eagle Scout poster boy. And no, Stephen Miller's sentiment does not have broad electoral support.

The rest of what I said is simply a recitation of the facts surrounding the situation.

You're a little twisted on the details of the SNAP distribution.

Benefits weren't previously being illegally distributed; they were being legally distributed in accordance with the law as written prior to the BBB.

The 120-day grace period to implement eligibility changes was written into the BBB and makes sense - government agencies can't shift procedures and logistics affecting millions of people at the drop of a hat.

On October 31 the USDA issued updated guidance that detailed changes (narrowing) of eligibility standards and implemented massive state penalties for non-complying states. On November 1 it announced it was also ending the 120-day grace period which would have made states immediately subject to massive fines even though guidance about the new standard had only been offered one day prior.

Sufficiently clear, final guidance was finally offered on December 10.

The court applying a reasonableness threshold to the eligibility shift implementation timing is not an unexpected or unreasonable outcome.

Above all, my point is the tweet was bull**** propaganda and of course people in here pile on and use that propaganda as more fuel in their red team/blue team battlebot episode.



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Werewolf
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Things aren't going well for #Sieve and #Gobbler's side.
Werewolf
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#Sieve will tell you #TamponTim is doing a great job and under no uncertain terms should he resign.

Should he resign, #SIEVE?
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#Sieve, #Dark2Light. It's coming, my friend. I've told ya.
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#Sieve, I'll bet you're unhappy about this and probably very upset.
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packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?



LOLOLOL

Love how y'all slurp down serious police work...errrr...social media blasts from Keystone Cop Kash so eagerly, but this is colossally lame and misleading nonsense.

Evidently the FBI was wrong and the DOJ was right. They got a search warrant didn't they? The DOJ didn't grant themselves that search warrant, a judge did. They presented an affidavit and evidence to the judge, and he saw fit to grant the warrant based on his review of evidence and determination there was probable cause.

This is like you trying to pick apart an internal office disagreement inside a prosecutor's office about whether to pursue charges in a case that they ultimately pursued and won.

And then, once the search warrant was granted they found hundreds classified docs including top secret docs at MAL, after Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives like Biden, Pence, Hillary, and every other leader from whom the archives ever requested cooperation did, and instead moved the documents around and an apparent attempt to hide them and then played the defiantly inept "Yeah I had them, but I declassified them" card.

You really think you're going to now convince people PC was lacking legally when the DOJ went through proper channels, got a warrant, served the warrant, and found exactly what they believed they'd find after they raided the place?

Anything to distract from the ****ty economy, doubling health insurance premiums, and the upcoming potential mid-term disaster.

Good luck with all that!
Werewolf
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LOL, State of Emergency coming. Executive Order to follow.

- new voter ID cards to be issued upon presentation of valid identfication
- All paper ballot
- In person same day voting
- small precincts (I think it's under 1700), votes counted in place, cannot be transported to another location
- there will NOT be any digital machinery counting or tabulating votes allowed
- military absentee voting will be allowed, and possibly a few other exceptions

The States will not run an alternative election for any national office

#Sieve, we shall see how BLUE those blue states are........LMAO.
#Sieve, we shall see if those SWING states are remotely close to being swing states. Won't be close.
#Sieve, the Democrat Party is done.
#Sieve, if it makes you feel any better there will be a helluva lot of Republicans that go down too.
#Sieve, there is a SWAMP, and it is corrupt and compromised and controlled........it does not work for the American people.

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packgrad
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Oh the tds boy says it's "colossally lame and misleading". Hilarious that the guy that couldn't define gender 6 months ago thinks he knows more about this than Patel. Lol. What a minion clown cheerleader. You're not mentally ill at all, are you? "LOLOLOL"

Edit to add... also love how Civ fails to mention how they staged photos as part of their sham investigation.

But as the enemy of the state that Civ is, he thinks "whatever it takes". Turnabout is fair play though. I look forward to the reckoning.
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#Sieve, you've had a bad day. You've had a bad week, too. Heck, you've had a bad 10-1/2 months. You even had a bad four years under you boy, BIden, you just can't admit it to yourself. #Sieve, prepare yourself, my friend..........you're in for some very bad days ahead. Just wear the tar and feathers proudly........By the way, you'll love crow too.........just as much as #daGobbler.

#crescendo #devolution #boomerang #TheGreatAwakening #Dark2Light #WWG1WGA

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Democrats.
jkpackfan
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The only normal sane democrat left.

Werewolf
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For all the RINOs here, it's not going to be pretty for your guys either.
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Werewolf said:

Things aren't going well for #Sieve and #Gobbler's side.



Amazon is about to make a lot of money on the sell of Venezuelan flags for our liberal friends
caryking
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?



LOLOLOL

Love how y'all slurp down serious police work...errrr...social media blasts from Keystone Cop Kash so eagerly, but this is colossally lame and misleading nonsense.

Evidently the FBI was wrong and the DOJ was right. They got a search warrant didn't they? The DOJ didn't grant themselves that search warrant, a judge did. They presented an affidavit and evidence to the judge, and he saw fit to grant the warrant based on his review of evidence and determination there was probable cause.

This is like you trying to pick apart an internal office disagreement inside a prosecutor's office about whether to pursue charges in a case that they ultimately pursued and won.

And then, once the search warrant was granted they found hundreds classified docs including top secret docs at MAL, after Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives like Biden, Pence, Hillary, and every other leader from whom the archives ever requested cooperation did, and instead moved the documents around and an apparent attempt to hide them and then played the defiantly inept "Yeah I had them, but I declassified them" card.

You really think you're going to now convince people PC was lacking legally when the DOJ went through proper channels, got a warrant, served the warrant, and found exactly what they believed they'd find after they raided the place?

Anything to distract from the ****ty economy, doubling health insurance premiums, and the upcoming potential mid-term disaster.

Good luck with all that!

Civ, let's have a debate over your TDS. This post is exactly why you get called out.
packgrad
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"On the left accountability is non existent, what matters is loyalty."

Sounds familiar.

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More bad news for #daSieve.
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?



LOLOLOL

Love how y'all slurp down serious police work...errrr...social media blasts from Keystone Cop Kash so eagerly, but this is colossally lame and misleading nonsense.

Evidently the FBI was wrong and the DOJ was right. They got a search warrant didn't they? The DOJ didn't grant themselves that search warrant, a judge did. They presented an affidavit and evidence to the judge, and he saw fit to grant the warrant based on his review of evidence and determination there was probable cause.

This is like you trying to pick apart an internal office disagreement inside a prosecutor's office about whether to pursue charges in a case that they ultimately pursued and won.

And then, once the search warrant was granted they found hundreds classified docs including top secret docs at MAL, after Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives like Biden, Pence, Hillary, and every other leader from whom the archives ever requested cooperation did, and instead moved the documents around and an apparent attempt to hide them and then played the defiantly inept "Yeah I had them, but I declassified them" card.

You really think you're going to now convince people PC was lacking legally when the DOJ went through proper channels, got a warrant, served the warrant, and found exactly what they believed they'd find after they raided the place?

Anything to distract from the ****ty economy, doubling health insurance premiums, and the upcoming potential mid-term disaster.

Good luck with all that!

Civ, let's have a debate over your TDS. This post is exactly why you get called out.

Which is y'all's standard line when you can't dispute the facts surrounding a topic, and those facts undercut your argument.

This time with zero editorializing, just facts:

Did Trump obstruct the Archives' attempts to obtain documents after he left office, and move documents around MAL? Yes.

Are there any past examples of similar behavior from others from whom the archives has sought to obtain potentially sensitive or classified documents after they leave office? No.

Did the DOJ follow proper legal channels to conduct a search? Yes.

Did the DOJ obtain a proper search warrant to search MAL? Yes.

Did the DOJ execute the warrant and search MAL and find hundreds of classified and dozens of top-secret documents? Yes.

Can we agree about these basic facts? If not, which ones specifically do you disagree with?
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Wonder why they had to stage fake top secret photos if there was so much overwhelming evidence??

What matters is loyalty, Civ!! Baaaaaa.

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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?



LOLOLOL

Love how y'all slurp down serious police work...errrr...social media blasts from Keystone Cop Kash so eagerly, but this is colossally lame and misleading nonsense.

Evidently the FBI was wrong and the DOJ was right. They got a search warrant didn't they? The DOJ didn't grant themselves that search warrant, a judge did. They presented an affidavit and evidence to the judge, and he saw fit to grant the warrant based on his review of evidence and determination there was probable cause.

This is like you trying to pick apart an internal office disagreement inside a prosecutor's office about whether to pursue charges in a case that they ultimately pursued and won.

And then, once the search warrant was granted they found hundreds classified docs including top secret docs at MAL, after Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives like Biden, Pence, Hillary, and every other leader from whom the archives ever requested cooperation did, and instead moved the documents around and an apparent attempt to hide them and then played the defiantly inept "Yeah I had them, but I declassified them" card.

You really think you're going to now convince people PC was lacking legally when the DOJ went through proper channels, got a warrant, served the warrant, and found exactly what they believed they'd find after they raided the place?

Anything to distract from the ****ty economy, doubling health insurance premiums, and the upcoming potential mid-term disaster.

Good luck with all that!

Civ, let's have a debate over your TDS. This post is exactly why you get called out.

Which is y'all's standard line when you can't dispute the facts surrounding a topic, and those facts undercut your argument.

This time with zero editorializing, just facts:

Did Trump obstruct the Archives' attempts to obtain documents after he left office, and move documents around MAL? Yes.

Are there any past examples of similar behavior from others from whom the archives has sought to obtain potentially sensitive or classified documents after they leave office? No.

Did the DOJ follow proper legal channels to conduct a search? Yes.

Did the DOJ obtain a proper search warrant to search MAL? Yes.

Did the DOJ execute the warrant and search MAL and find hundreds of classified and dozens of top-secret documents? Yes.

Can we agree about these basic facts? If not, which ones specifically do you disagree with?


Very respectfully Civ, I think your TDS comes out not in the well articulated points you make but rather your somewhat childish insults and overused race bait.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?



LOLOLOL

Love how y'all slurp down serious police work...errrr...social media blasts from Keystone Cop Kash so eagerly, but this is colossally lame and misleading nonsense.

Evidently the FBI was wrong and the DOJ was right. They got a search warrant didn't they? The DOJ didn't grant themselves that search warrant, a judge did. They presented an affidavit and evidence to the judge, and he saw fit to grant the warrant based on his review of evidence and determination there was probable cause.

This is like you trying to pick apart an internal office disagreement inside a prosecutor's office about whether to pursue charges in a case that they ultimately pursued and won.

And then, once the search warrant was granted they found hundreds classified docs including top secret docs at MAL, after Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives like Biden, Pence, Hillary, and every other leader from whom the archives ever requested cooperation did, and instead moved the documents around and an apparent attempt to hide them and then played the defiantly inept "Yeah I had them, but I declassified them" card.

You really think you're going to now convince people PC was lacking legally when the DOJ went through proper channels, got a warrant, served the warrant, and found exactly what they believed they'd find after they raided the place?

Anything to distract from the ****ty economy, doubling health insurance premiums, and the upcoming potential mid-term disaster.

Good luck with all that!

Civ, let's have a debate over your TDS. This post is exactly why you get called out.

Which is y'all's standard line when you can't dispute the facts surrounding a topic, and those facts undercut your argument.

This time with zero editorializing, just facts:

Did Trump obstruct the Archives' attempts to obtain documents after he left office, and move documents around MAL? Yes.

Are there any past examples of similar behavior from others from whom the archives has sought to obtain potentially sensitive or classified documents after they leave office? No.

Did the DOJ follow proper legal channels to conduct a search? Yes.

Did the DOJ obtain a proper search warrant to search MAL? Yes.

Did the DOJ execute the warrant and search MAL and find hundreds of classified and dozens of top-secret documents? Yes.

Can we agree about these basic facts? If not, which ones specifically do you disagree with?


Very respectfully Civ, I think your TDS comes out not in the well articulated points you make but rather your somewhat childish insults and overused race bait.

Let's also not forget that Civ wants due process for terrorists, gang members, and drug dealers. But not for Trump. That's a pretty big one.
Gulfstream4
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packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

"Whatever it takes" in your blue team vs TRUMP!!!!!! battle bot episode, right Civ?



LOLOLOL

Love how y'all slurp down serious police work...errrr...social media blasts from Keystone Cop Kash so eagerly, but this is colossally lame and misleading nonsense.

Evidently the FBI was wrong and the DOJ was right. They got a search warrant didn't they? The DOJ didn't grant themselves that search warrant, a judge did. They presented an affidavit and evidence to the judge, and he saw fit to grant the warrant based on his review of evidence and determination there was probable cause.

This is like you trying to pick apart an internal office disagreement inside a prosecutor's office about whether to pursue charges in a case that they ultimately pursued and won.

And then, once the search warrant was granted they found hundreds classified docs including top secret docs at MAL, after Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives like Biden, Pence, Hillary, and every other leader from whom the archives ever requested cooperation did, and instead moved the documents around and an apparent attempt to hide them and then played the defiantly inept "Yeah I had them, but I declassified them" card.

You really think you're going to now convince people PC was lacking legally when the DOJ went through proper channels, got a warrant, served the warrant, and found exactly what they believed they'd find after they raided the place?

Anything to distract from the ****ty economy, doubling health insurance premiums, and the upcoming potential mid-term disaster.

Good luck with all that!

Civ, let's have a debate over your TDS. This post is exactly why you get called out.

Which is y'all's standard line when you can't dispute the facts surrounding a topic, and those facts undercut your argument.

This time with zero editorializing, just facts:

Did Trump obstruct the Archives' attempts to obtain documents after he left office, and move documents around MAL? Yes.

Are there any past examples of similar behavior from others from whom the archives has sought to obtain potentially sensitive or classified documents after they leave office? No.

Did the DOJ follow proper legal channels to conduct a search? Yes.

Did the DOJ obtain a proper search warrant to search MAL? Yes.

Did the DOJ execute the warrant and search MAL and find hundreds of classified and dozens of top-secret documents? Yes.

Can we agree about these basic facts? If not, which ones specifically do you disagree with?


Very respectfully Civ, I think your TDS comes out not in the well articulated points you make but rather your somewhat childish insults and overused race bait.

Let's also not forget that Civ wants due process for terrorists, gang members, and drug dealers. But not for Trump. That's a pretty big one.



Liberals did not care one bit about due process as 10 million flooded into country but they want due process to kick them out??
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